71 Ralley wheel paint

[6pakdave]

I have searched the web to no avail!

Im looking for the paint code for the cast 5 spoke 71 Camaro Ralley wheel. I have a nice 71 but the wheels are Maroon overkill. Im sure they are not the same as Vett ralley silver ya?

cheers Dave

http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af228/6pakdave/71%20Camaro%20Maroon%202013/P1070134_zpsdd9ed1ff.jpg (http://s1010.photobucket.com/user/6pakdave/media/71%20Camaro%20Maroon%202013/P1070134_zpsdd9ed1ff.jpg.html)
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[m22mike]

Dave
I have a can of PPG lacquer and will relay the # early next week, not at home till Friday. Or you might check at Nasty Z28 (http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/index.php)
I beleive it is DDL 32961 , PPG 32961 you need lacquer if you can get it ?
Mike

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-2974-9892-dscf7519.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/02/full-2974-9893-dscf7525.jpg

[Schonyenko2]

Done correctly, it should have a textured finish. pm Just bad joe. I think he has the mixing formula.

[roeville]

Yes, as mentioned above, the correct formula is DDL32961. If you search the NastyZ28 website you'll find more than enough info on this. I believe someone was recently able to get the lacquer formula from Year One. BTW, the wheels in your post (OP 6pakdave) look like 76 and later wheels.
- Mike

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/roeville/15x7_zps866f0410.jpg (http://s630.photobucket.com/user/roeville/media/15x7_zps866f0410.jpg.html)

[m22mike]

That wheel looks great. I saw an original one recently and it was very textured, almost rough.

Mike

[6pakdave]

cheers guys, Those #pt numbers might be of use with my paint guy. Im sure he can x-reference them.

Looks like the valve location changes on the later rim?

cheers Dave

[roeville]

Dave, the original lacquer formula is now a little difficult to find. Most paint manufacturers can match the color but have trouble replicating the texture which was done with a suede additive. Somewhere I have the actual formula too. Let me know if you need it and I'll post a picture of the can with the specific formula for DDL 32961.

This type of wheel in early 1970 had a 5/8” oval valve stem clearance opening in the outer face. Mid 1970-76 had a 13/16” oval valve stem clearance opening. 1977-1978 had a round 7/8” opening, 1979-81 are 1” round. The date code is stamped near the actual valve stem hole (i.e. K11 6 14). K=Kelsey-Hayes, 1=Chevrolet, 1=1971, 6=month, 14=day. The outer rim face protrudes out more on the early wheels (pre 77) creating less of a lip with the trim ring installed. Also, the spoke design is rounder and less flat compared to later years. -Mike

[6pakdave]

Thanks for the info guys. Its amazing the small GM design tweaks to details like these cast rims model to model.
Im not too concerned about the rough argent finish, the correct 'dull grey' is what Im looking for.

cheers Dave

[John Brown]

I'm sure those rims are stamped, not cast.

[x77-69z28]

Dave, YEAR ONE has the absolute correct wheel paint. It takes a few weeks to get, but it is the original DDL-32961 formulation. There is a thread on nastyz28.com with pics of my wheels. They are DBA(dead balls accurate) it's an industry term! Oh crap, just looked at where you are from. I don't think it can go by plane!

[x77-69z28]

The name of the thread on nastyz28 is "Z28 wheel finish"

[Budz]

Yes, as mentioned above, the correct formula is DDL32961. If you search the NastyZ28 website you'll find more than enough info on this. I believe someone was recently able to get the lacquer formula from Year One. BTW, the wheels in your post (OP 6pakdave) look like 76 and later wheels.
- Mike

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/roeville/15x7_zps866f0410.jpg (http://s630.photobucket.com/user/roeville/media/15x7_zps866f0410.jpg.html)

So is this actually the correct way to paint these, with the outer (front side) of the lip Dove Gray like the back and inside of the wheels? I painted my set of date matched 'show' wheels this way years ago, but for the life of me can't remember why. I don't think I've actually seen any in person this way.

[CamarosRus]

Buddy, The entire front of the wheel was painted with the Lacquer "Cast Looking" Formula.

Anybody reading this know of a PPG Jobber that can still mix the above formula with SUEDE additive..
I have a very old unopened pint can that I'm thinking would be bad ??????

[CamarosRus]

LOL...............Hear I am FOUR Years later....Still asking

1) Anybody reading this know of a PPG Jobber that can still mix the above formula with SUEDE additive..

2)I have a very old unopened pint can that I'm wondering if still useable ????

3) How many wheels (one side) might be painted with ONE pint of the PPG 32961 Lacquer..........

[L72Biscayne]

LOL...............Hear I am FOUR Years later....Still asking

1) Anybody reading this know of a PPG Jobber that can still mix the above formula with SUEDE additive..

2)I have a very old unopened pint can that I'm wondering if still useable ????

3) How many wheels (one side) might be painted with ONE pint of the PPG 32961 Lacquer..........

If the can was stored correctly meaning it never froze, then I’d bet that it’s still good. I would think a pint would refinish the face of a couple sets of wheels.

[70post]

You're probably going to need to reduce/thin the lacquer quite a bit prior to spraying so you should easily have enough for the wheels.

[BCreekDave]

I usually start out at 1:1 reduction and see how it flows out. Nice thing about this application is that you won't be sanding between coats as you want to end up with a pebble finish.