69 engineering firebird on ebay

[tjs44]

Has anyone seen this car on ebay?
191075871713
Seems too good to be true,lots of talk on PY about it.Tom

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tjs44</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone seen this car on ebay?
CLICK HERE!!!!!!!!! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191075871713?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt% 3D901%26_ftrv%3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_sam ilow%3D%26_samihi%3D%26_sadis%3D200%26_fpos%3D%26_ fsct%3D%26LH_SALE_CURRENCY%3D0%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd% 3D1%26_ipg%3D50%26_nkw%3D191075871713%26_rdc%3D1)
Seems too good to be true,lots of talk on PY about it.Tom </div></div>

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/03/full-23-9940-_3.jpg

[Fast67VelleN2O]

If this was an engineering mule, how was it able to be sent to a dealer and with a list price?

[al8apex]

and why did they start with a vinyl top 350 car?

[PeteLeathersac]

Text below from this page re Test car # 9723 w/ pics, note 400 etc different than sheet shown.
http://musclecarfilms.com/1969_Firebird_Engineering_Cars_4_A.html
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~ Pete

&quot;...The Pontiac Engineering Group built this mule car to test the feasibility of high performance 1969 Firebird 455.
They started out with a lightly optioned Carousel Red 1969 Firebird 400 (marked Test Car #9723). Using one of their new Pontiac 455 blocks, the engineers topped it off with a
set of Ram Air IV cylinder heads, Ram Air IV exhaust manifolds, and adding to the &quot;wow&quot; factor, the engineers went to the parts bin and brought
out a 3-year old (1966) Tri-Power setup. Underneath the Firebird was a very unique Vacuum Operated Exhaust system (known as VOE)
consisting of vacuum-operated bypass valves mounted on the mufflers. The driver could choose an &quot;open&quot; or &quot;closed&quot; exhaust note using a pull
knob mounted under the dash (this setup would actually become a short-lived and very rare production option on the 1970 GTO). Finally,
funneling the exhaust gases out the back of this special 1969 Firebird was an exotic looking Ferrari-style 4-tailpipe setup. The transmission was the
ever reliable Turbo 400 with a modified valve body to provide firmer shifts. A 1969 Trans Am rear wing was added to the rear deck lid, and to
make the car stand out visually, black accents were added all around, including sword-shaped stripes on the hood scoop nacelles, black stripes on
the body &quot;wind splits&quot;, blacked out headlight bezels, blacked out tail panel and rear valence, and blacked out grilles. A set of &quot;455&quot; emblems
(pirated off a 1970 Bonneville) graced the hood scoops and trunk lid. Riding on the factory Rally II wheels with Goodyear F70-14 bias-ply tires,
Test Car #9723 must have been a real handful to control. As wild as this setup was, the 3-year old Tri-Power setup and the 4-tailpipe exhaust
system were obviously not intended to be production items. Before Pontiac Engineering was through with this car (late 1970) they attached a large
front chin spoiler, which seemed to resemble the spoiler used later on production 1970 Chevrolet Z/28's.

An interesting note here is that the engineers dubbed this engine a &quot;455 H.O.&quot; rather than a &quot;Ram Air IV 455&quot;, even though it contained Ram Air
IV heads and Ram Air IV exhaust manifolds. Naming this engine in the famed &quot;H.O.&quot; (high output) series rather than the &quot;Ram Air&quot; series may
have been simply because the car did not use a Ram Air setup. But technically, this was a Firebird Ram Air IV 455, with the exception of a 1966
tri-power unit...&quot;

[Keith Seymore]

Here's a more recent listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191084350464?ru=...#ht_3609wt_1105 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/191084350464?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2F i.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D1910843 50464%26_rdc%3D1#ht_3609wt_1105)

If you guys would be so kind as to &quot;report&quot; the listing as fraudulent or a violation of ebay policies I would be most grateful (as would Mike Noun)...

PY thread: http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=671659

http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748181

K

[GreenLS6]

He seams to of taken a liking to you kieth! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif haha

This sits right there with some of the LS6/L78 chevelles I have gone to document and look at. Hmmmm factory air.. Yeah - special ordered that way by my uncle. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif yeah right

[PeteLeathersac]

VIN 223379N106952
Wow, crazy stuff!
Click here if you missed the lesson, keep your eyes on the dancing pencil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQQoEGOZXA4

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~ Pete

[Billohio]

Pencil laying right across the document. geez wonder whats under there?? lol

[Lynn]

Someone is wound a little tight.

Reminds me of two old sayings:

When a man is wrong and won't admit it, he always gets angry.

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[PeteLeathersac]

Seller's YouTube clip reminds me of but makes less sense than this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJS8GszWJuQ

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~ Pete