1969 H/O Z28 survivor

[L78M22Rag]

Not mine, but I stumbled across this on Craigslist. Looks like a great car for $35,000. I hope someone pursues this...

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/4349293494.html

The Ad reads:
1969 Z28 real survivor. Original Hugger Orange paint, black vinyl top, interior and the list goes on. It has been short blocked and is now powered by a 350 with original Z28 double hump heads, Winters intake, factory headers and Muncie 4 speed transmission. The original 4:56 gear is included as well as the 302 crankshaft. It is a blast to drive with the current 3:73 gear. It is an early March car with the rare short spoiler and original and very rare flat hood. Before I became the owner it had been stored for more than 17 years. The car is clean and bright. With all that power and Z28s fast ratio steering it handles like the true sports car that it was built to be. The interior is perfect except for a small split in the seam of the driver's seat. The only rust is some slight surface rust just starting on some frame members. The car does have some paint blemishes and minor damage to the front of right fender. The dent doctor and a paint touch up would it make new again. This car is an excellent weekend driver and head turner. Health problems necessitate the need for me to sell this, my dream car to someone that will love and appreciate it. Please, only serious inquiries.

[x77-69z28]

Looks like a nice orig paint car. March car wouldn't have the short spoiler, and it looks like someone swapped the headrests for 70's. Can't beat hugger orange with blk vinyl roof and stripes!

[L78M22Rag]

Yeah, I noticed the headrests but not the spoiler. How long was the short spoiler used for 69 models?

[Steve Shauger]

Yes the short spoiler was still used sporadically into mid March of 69.

[JoeC]

if it is an original 4:56 gear car, it would have COPO 9511

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if it is an original 4:56 gear car, it would have COPO 9511 </div></div>

If factory shipped and not dealer installed, check tube stamping.
Again 9511 was necessary for '69 cars only, not other years.

All that and HO, looks like a nice deal for someone to get their eyeballs on.
Hope things are well in your world Helmut!
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~ Pete

[L78M22Rag]

I just noticed that it doesn't appear to have a posi sticker under the deck lid... could have peeled off in the last 35 years, but I thought I'd point it out given the discussion about the rear.

Yes, all is well in my cold and snowy world. Wish spring would hurry up! How are you my friend?

[Charley Lillard]

I think Posi was optional.

[L78M22Rag]

I realize that. I just meant that nobody would order a 4.56 non-posi, so I doubt it was ordered with a 4.56 rear.

[resto4u]

It looks pretty good, but you can see that there has been some spray can action done on the underside and rear end. I would rather see it in the raw, with lite surface rust than a rattle can cover up over the rust. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but an in person inspection.

[92646]

I have to ask about the stripes where they end in the cowl area because I have never seen an original paint 69 Z/28. I saw one picture of the area by the trim tag and I would have thought there would have been more over spray from the body color and the stripe on the firewall area.

[x77-69z28]

The cowl screen was painted off the car. Looks like there was some rattle can touch up by the cowl. There is black paint on the fender reinforcement which should be body color. Maybe when they painted the brake booster!

[x77-69z28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes the short spoiler was still used sporadically into mid March of 69. </div></div>
That is good to know Steve. I had no idea it went that late. A friend of mine has a late January car with the long spoiler, I assumed it was phased out by then. You know what happens when you assume!
Buddy

[JoeC]

I think Posi was optional.

Positraction was required for 3:73 and higher on the 1969 Camaro Power Team Chart

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Posi was optional. </div></div>

Positraction was required for 3:73 and higher on the 1969 Camaro Power Team Chart </div></div>

I've seen a few 3:55 non-posi Z 28s, but never 3:73 and higher.

[tom406]

My last 69 HO, RS Z was a factory 3.73 open rear. Axle code BO.

[Steve Shauger]

It looks like you could get a posi with gears as low as 2:73, code BQ and non posi with gears as high as 3:73 code BO in a 69 camaro with 12 bolt.

[camaromb]

I talked to the owner the day the ad was listed last week. The car has had some welding done on the floors for some sort of subframe connectors at some point. Obviously the grille has been painted, who knows how much more. I never received any further detailed photos; trunk, underbody, etc. It looks like a nice straight car someone might enjoy.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I talked to the owner the day the ad was listed last week. The car has had some welding done on the floors for some sort of subframe connectors at some point. Obviously the grille has been painted, who knows how much more. I never received any further detailed photos; trunk, underbody, etc. It looks like a nice straight car someone might enjoy. </div></div>

He also stated the car was raced quite a bit and was going to be tubbed so the leaf springs were relocated but it was never completed. When he purchased the car he removed the frame connectors and put springs back. The tunnel has been cut as well. He had no information on the trans or rear but said &quot; there is no reason they would have been switched&quot;. He didn't seem interested in checking the #'s.

[92646]

I got some pictures and I think the transmission might have been changed. I can not make it out 100% but to me it looks like casting 3851325 but I could be wrong.

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Posi was optional. </div></div>

Positraction was required for 3:73 and higher on the 1969 Camaro Power Team Chart </div></div>

You can't believe everything you read.