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69LM1
04-19-2014, 01:25 PM
Camaro Z28 Clone Free Zone - A Great Idea from GM.

http://www.camaronews.com/camaro-news/z28-clone-free-zone-parts-restriction/

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GM has just announced, in an effort to prevent Z/28 cloning, approx 40 specific Z/28 parts will be restricted:

With the launch of the new Camaro Z/28, approximately 40 different Z/28 specific parts will be placed on restriction. This action is being taken to protect the vehicle’s brand and customer’s investment by preventing the “cloning” of the Z/28.

Dealers will be required to obtain specific vehicle &amp; owner information before any parts order request can begin.

Part orders for the restricted parts will be monitored and reported to the Camaro Program Team, GM Regional Warranty Managers and appropriate Field personnel.

Z/28 parts replaced for warranty, will be requested back through the parts return process, for analysis.</div></div>

The list:

22958646 ROTOR-FRT BRK

22958647 ROTOR-RR BRK

22958658 CALIPER ASM-FRT BRK

22958607 CALIPER ASM-FRT BRK

22958637 CALIPER ASM-RR BRK

22958634 CALIPER ASM-RR BRK

23179350 MOLDING ASM-RKR PNL

23179351 MOLDING ASM-RKR PNL

23487228 SCOOP ASM-HOOD AIR

22968220 ESCUTCHEON – FRT GRL EMB

23468210 EMBLEM – FRT GRILL (Flow Tie)

22954889 WHEEL ASM-STRG

22873225 WHEEL-FRT

22873227 WHEEL-RR

23179322 FLARE ASM-F/FDR

23179323 FLARE ASM-F/FDR

23179324 FLARE ASM-RR WHL OPG

23179325 FLARE ASM-RR WHL OPG

23172755 DIFFERENTIAL ASM

23172756 DIFFERENTIAL ASM

22908036 EMBLEM ASM – E/Gate

22908498 EMBLEM ASM – FRT GRL

22894294 SEAT ASM-FRT

22894302 SEAT ASM-FRT

23473010 SHAFT ASM-RR WHL DRV

23473011 SHAFT ASM-RR WHL DRV

23468208 GRILLE – FRT UPR

22925211 PLATE – F/FDR VEH NA

22972716 COVER – D/SEAT BK

22972708 COVER – P/SEAT BK

12653293 SHIELD – INT MANIF SIGHT

12653294 SHIELD – INT MANIF SIGHT

23104737 SPOILER – F/END

22997723 FASCIA – FRT BPR

22985096 FASCIA – RR BPR LWR

22968219 COVER – FRT FOG LP OPG

22966600 COVER – A/CL HSG

23468209 PLATE – FRT GRL EMB BKG

Rich

69LM1
04-19-2014, 01:33 PM
From CamaroNews.com

More pictures of 2014 Z/28 Vins 1 &amp; 2 delivered to Rick Hendrick Motorsports today!

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1779827_847933638556928_166132492409235757_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10262250_847933655223593_39370552883357901_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10277513_847933675223591_5559021276957679721_n.jpg

http://www.camaronews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screen-Shot-2014-04-19-at-12.24.56-AM.png

Cool....

Rich

njsteve
04-19-2014, 02:08 PM
This is similar to what Pontiac did in 1973 when the Super Duty 455 engine came out. All of a sudden there were hundreds of orders for the unique SD455 forged steel, connecting rods. Pontiac cancelled the orders and then issued an edict stating that any dealer placing an order for the rods had to include the car's VIN and further restricted it by limiting the order to only four connecting rods.

XXXGoldL34M20
04-19-2014, 03:29 PM
Camaro has it all wrong, I hate to say this but they put stripes on the SS but not on the Z28? Is there a stripes package for the Z?

Pretty sure it performs awesome but what a Fugly (Short term for Funny and Ugly) looking car.
IMO

70 copo
04-19-2014, 03:35 PM
No stripes as of now. You would think for $75K you could get a factory option since the car is a tribute to the original Z/28....a car that was known for two (kind of) trademark Rally's??

IMO...the only stripes that really looked right on the 5th gen anyway were the 2010 Berger editions-full length and painted on.

300deluxeL79
04-19-2014, 03:45 PM
not a fan of this recent fad, black wheels

Fast67VelleN2O
04-19-2014, 04:31 PM
Am I the only one that thinks this is a completely dumb idea? Now the kids and customers who can't afford a real Z28 now can't even clone or tribute their Camaro into one? Stupid. Now with VIN's telling you what the car originally was, there is no way to forge a Z/28 and trick an unsuspecting buyer. Now you have to be rich to afford one of these. Us regular guys can't afford one nor can we even clone one if we even wanted to.

StriperSS
04-19-2014, 04:43 PM
The black one has the wrong grille emblem.

Stefano
04-19-2014, 04:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Fugly (Short term for Funny and Ugly) looking car.
IMO </div></div>

Is that the Marriam Webster / Politically correct definition, because that's not the meaning we associate with Fugly?

XXXGoldL34M20
04-19-2014, 04:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Fugly (Short term for Funny and Ugly) looking car.
IMO </div></div>

Is that the Marriam Webster / Politically correct definition, because that's not the meaning we associate with Fugly? </div></div>

The real meaning is more nasty anyways and I am just trying to be a bit more polite. Fugly really means F#$%ING Ugly. Which really was my first thought about the new Camaro when it came out a few years back. Sorry I am not a fan of this generation Camaro.

427TJ
04-19-2014, 05:23 PM
You'd think 1 and maybe 2 would go across an auction block rather than the showroom. Any guess on the markup?

markjohnson
04-19-2014, 07:28 PM
There's already a Chinese company selling exact copies of those bitchin' black wheels and I'm sure body kits will soon follow. Neighbor girl down the street already has them on her V6 Camaro.

427TJ
04-19-2014, 08:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'd think 1 and maybe 2 would go across an auction block rather than the showroom. Any guess on the markup? </div></div>

Just found this thread:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/556418/1

650K for bragging rights! I suppose there's always another high-roller out there who will buy it from him, perhaps at an auction, at a profit.

drdave69
04-19-2014, 09:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300deluxeL79</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not a fan of this recent fad, black wheels </div></div>\

I second that opinion. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

69VN
04-19-2014, 10:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's already a Chinese company selling exact copies of those bitchin' black wheels and I'm sure body kits will soon follow. Neighbor girl down the street already has them on her V6 Camaro.</div></div>


I really hate when China comes in a copies any and everything American-------even this for God's sake! Wtf?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20

SmallHurst
04-19-2014, 10:16 PM
I have seen some factory alloy wheels in at the parts counters of some dealerships. Boxed in factory packaging, made in China.

BARRY
04-19-2014, 11:40 PM
what a joke.. most the stuff from gm is from china

sixt9rsx33
04-20-2014, 12:06 AM
Both of those cars are bad ass, and I like the black wheels. Can't wait to see how they perform on the track. Should be some good shoot outs between the Z and the new Boss and Shelby. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

John Brown
04-20-2014, 12:09 AM
So, I guess that &quot;real&quot; Z28 owners will now be stocking up on spares, since they will be the only ones allowed to buy them, and then be selling the spare parts on ebay? It will be long after my lifetime before they become anywhere near collectible or in demand. Any doubts, look at all the zero mileage Corvette pace cars that were put away that can still be bought at or below what they originally sold for, still in the original wrapper.

427TJ
04-20-2014, 02:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BARRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what a joke.. most the stuff from gm is from china </div></div>

I believe it's known as &quot;unfettered free-market capitalism.&quot;

markinnaples
04-20-2014, 08:19 PM
Not a fan of black wheels on anything, and haven't been much of a new Camaro guy, but those two new Z's are awesome.

1969l78
04-20-2014, 10:13 PM
I think the new tailights look awful.

jannes_z-28
04-21-2014, 07:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69VN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's already a Chinese company selling exact copies of those bitchin' black wheels and I'm sure body kits will soon follow. Neighbor girl down the street already has them on her V6 Camaro.</div></div>


I really hate when China comes in a copies any and everything American-------even this for God's sake! Wtf?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20 </div></div>

Don't blame the Chinese, blame the ones who's buying it.

robber6910
04-21-2014, 08:06 AM
They redesigned the headlights, front grill, and rear taillights on all the new Camaros? Never saw any literature on this.

Billohio
04-21-2014, 12:39 PM
Tail lights look like they are off an old Acura. Horrible

Jack_Tar
04-21-2014, 01:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Z/28 parts replaced for warranty, will be requested back through the parts return process, for analysis.</div></div>

No stockpiling of parts. It looks like any replaced parts have to be sent back to for &quot;Analysis&quot;. I guess to make sure that the only parts out there are only on real Z28 cars.

OldZ28Owner
04-21-2014, 02:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300deluxeL79</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not a fan of this recent fad, black wheels</div></div>

I agree. I saw a new Corvette recently driving around that was white and had black wheels. I haven't seen another color yet, and while the body looked OK, the black wheels combined with the white pain was so ho hum. Taste is in the eye of the buyer - to each his or her own!

PxTx
04-21-2014, 02:42 PM
I'm not a fan of tge look, usually. I have seen a few cars which they are acceptable on- all high hp cars and so I have a rule. If the car truely is a BMF tge black wheels are okay. Where is that threshold? I think about 500 to the wheels gets you in the ballpark.

Black rims on poser cars are the worst!

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
04-21-2014, 08:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not a fan of tge look, usually. I have seen a few cars which they are acceptable on- all high hp cars and so I have a rule. If the car truely is a BMF tge black wheels are okay. Where is that threshold? I think about 500 to the wheels gets you in the ballpark.

Black rims on poser cars are the worst! </div></div>

X2! At some point the performance simply overrules the look(s), and ~500RWH can come with black wheels - especially if the body is black. I think the Z28 is simply awesome....

169indy
04-22-2014, 03:49 AM
This does not add up to me. If they are concerned about cloning when documentation can be had for cars after 1977 GM Vehicle Invoices, Build Records and Vintage Vehicle Information Availability,,,Clone the heck out of it. The docs WILL be avail to future collectors due to records retention above and beyond the 1960's.
Second it almost seems like the exurbanite buy in cost of obtaining a 2014 Z28 is as if they want to limit this vehicle and its PARTS. Limiting parts is a poor business practice in my mind. They might want to limit issue and use of incompatible parts on lesser equipped cars?

If I was in a position I WOULD have one of these Bad Mothers &amp; stock up on parts in the Chinese GM wrapper and liquidate them 30 years from now!

robber6910
04-22-2014, 08:24 AM
Who's to say you can't buy a totaled Z-28, go to GM parts and order whatever you want then slap them on a non Z car??

Zman1969
05-14-2014, 06:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1969l78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the new tailights look awful. </div></div>
especially since that what view most will have of the car!
I personally like them better than the previous years taillights