1970 torino 429 SCJ dragpack 4 spd

[NOTIME]

I'm not really a Ford guy but love all muscle cars. Over the weekend I acquired a 70 429 scj Torino. I don't know anything about this car other than a little research last night. I have not run the Marti report yet but will do soon. Anyone know a little about these cars?

[cudino]

I have one of these cars, but a Torino Cobra model. I can tell you a bit about what I know:
- There were two 429 CobraJet (CJ) motors in 1970, and this will be coded as the 5th digit of the VIN. The 'C' code will be for the 429 non-ram-air version, and the 'J' code will be for the 429 Ram-Air version (with desirable shaker scoop).
- The "Super" Cobra Jet (SCJ) is more confusing. This option upgraded a lot of features of the CJ motor, but Ford didn't change the engine code. The SCJ was really just an option on the C and J code motors. So you could have an SCJ motor with Ram Air (J) or without (C), meaning the VIN won't reflect this SCJ Option.
- The reason why this SCJ is an option is because Ford considered it an Axle Package Option, aka Drag Pack. One easy way to tell if you have a real SCJ is by looking at the Axle code on the door tag. The Drag Pack got you either the V (3.91:1) or W (4.30:1) rear axle. In combination with a C or a J code in the VIN then you know this car is actually a real SCJ if it has one of these two axle codes.
- In addition to one of these two rear axles the SCJ/DragPack option also added an oil cooler, solid lifters, a different cam, different intake, different carb, 4 bolt mains, 3/8 fuel line, etc. Really, this SCJ 'option' was an entirely different engine configuration, but I guess since it could be added to either the C or J code 429s they left it as an option. A bit confusing.

Here's a site with a lot of detailed info: http://www.torinocobra.com/main1.htm

- Wade

[442w30]

I know a little about them.....

Is it a Torino proper? C or J code in VIN?

[NOTIME]

It is a J code vin and previous owner told me it has the staggered shocks with a 3:90 nodular 9 in rear. It does have its original shaker and hood with hood tach but does not have the original motor or trans but gave me the oil filter adapter and cooler and rev limiter for it, its in pieces. The motor and trans he gave me is rebuilt with dual quads on it with a cobra air cleaner but gave me the original intake and carb with it. I did check the # on intake and it denotes SCJ but didn't check the carb however the exhaust manifolds come up as SCJ also. He said he may have accidently sold the original motor. He has had the car in his basement for almost 30 years.

[442w30]

The data plate should show SCJ in 99% of the cases. What does the gear code say? That's your answer in most cases (which would be 3.91, not 3.90, or 4.30).

I would appreciate seeing the Marti when you get it.

I saw this car in York this past weekend - similar, yet different (follow linkie):

http://www.torinocobra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34753

EDIT: I see you've stopped by the site already. :-)

[NOTIME]

The drivers door had been replaced at some point so the tag is gone. I am going to send for the Marti report soon. Yes I have joined that site but just started posting to figure out which report to get.

[442w30]

Get the middle one, which I think is the Deluxe.

[NOTIME]

Diego! just realized this is you. This is Darrell. Restored Scott Walters 70 RAM IV car. Will get the deluxe Marti soon.

[442w30]

Oh hey! I didn't make the connection even though your sig is as plan as day.<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif

Is this car for you or a customer?

[NOTIME]

Well, its mine now. Might be a story for you to write. A guy walks into my shop that I've never met and says i'm giving you my car on Thursday! Picked it up over the weekend and signed over the title. I still cant answer 100% why but I got it. I'm still in disbelief. I was in such a hurry before he changed his mind I didn't get any pictures of it in his basement. He seemed as if he was in a hurry too. I thought something fishy was going on but don't know what it is if anything but went smooth. Thought things were about to change when his son showed up but he said, &quot;I don't want the car&quot;.

[Tracker1]

Any pictures?

[442w30]

Darrell, people love Cobras and Falcons and some like GTs too but I'm one of the weird ones who like the &quot;other&quot; cars. I think you scored.

Can't wait to see the Marti. :-)

[NOTIME]

I think so too. Hope to have some pictures on the computer this weekend and will post.

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NOTIME</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Diego! just realized this is you. This is Darrell. Restored Scott Walters 70 RAM IV car. Will get the deluxe Marti soon. </div></div>

Hey Darrell -

What the hell are you doing with a Ferd? You're GM guy, remember? I'll double what you paid for it just to help you out!

Seriously, sounds like a neat car. Just goes to show you that they're still out there. If you still have it when I sell the GTO, we may have to talk...

Scott

[NOTIME]

OK, how do I post a picture?

[442w30]

Wanna email me and I'll do it?

[Charley Lillard]

Click the 5th box from the left and follow instructions. Really easy

[NOTIME]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-14258-13987-img_4247.jpg
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-14258-13991-img_4264.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-14258-13992-img_4266.jpg

[bulletpruf]

Very nice, Darrell. Looks like someone was a bit too excited with the blue and gray paint on the drivetrain, but still hard to argue with someone who gives you a car.

What casting are the heads? D00E-R? I think that's the right code for 429 CJ heads. Police Interceptor would be D20AB or something like that.

Can you post some pics of the car's exterior, interior, under hood, trunk?

[NOTIME]

The heads are not correct, forget the casting # right now but will check it again, need to pull intake and valve covers to look and put correct intake on, but it looks good in my garage the way it is right now! The gray is not paint, the aluminum has just been cleared. no trunk, the gas tank is the trunk, the engine compartment has been sprayed in satin black but needs freshening and the metal work has been done but some needs redone, not too good of a job on some of it but overall is a pretty solid car. Will get more pics later.

[Charley Lillard]

Did you manage to post the pics yourself ?

[NOTIME]

Yes, thank you for the info, it was easy once you figure out the stupid icons. Its like buying a new car, What do these stupid pictures mean?