My soon to be wife's new project driver. 1969 Z/28

[Fast67VelleN2O]

My fiance told me she wanted a 1969 Camaro so I was on the hunt (of course she didn't want any of the cars I currently have here). Was at a local swap meet a few weeks ago and got to talking with some guys and they told me about this car. Me and her went up to look at it and she liked it so we struck a deal on it. It's an X77 Z/28 which happens to be an original Rally Green car. Tach and gauges and 4.10 gears. Non matching drive train. No other options really. Car was redone with GM quarters, tail panel, door skins, and fenders back in the late 80's and was driven and used like it should be. Paint is rough and checking but car is still very solid and I personally love the patina. We're gonna clean it up, I'll add some cool Day 2 stuff I have and make it look a little more correct under the hood but that's all up to her in the end. I figured if she wanted a 1969 Camaro, let's get her something cool. Big thanks to John (C1SS396) for all the help this past weekend picking it up and getting it home.

[njsteve]

You got a cool one there! She's a keeper! (and the car, too) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[elonblock]

Congrats. Really nice! Keep us updated with pics as you add the day 2 goodies.

[Xplantdad]

Nice!!!

[Bill Pritchard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I figured if she wanted a 1969 Camaro, let's get her something cool. </div></div>

Looks like that is mission accomplished! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Thanks guys. We're excited and I'll post some updates as we knock out the things needing to be addressed.

[MosportGreen66]

Very cool Matt! Keep posting photos...

[jannes_z-28]

Can we see the trim tag, please?

Jan

[Postsedan]

Congrats <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[C1SS396]

Matt no problem anytime it alway a adventure .
So we get it unloaded Matt take his bride to be for a quick ride in it . Before they get back a guy in a very nice camaro rolls up .Seem New Jeresy has 69 Camaro welcoming comitte.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/69%20Camaro%20Endura%20Bumper/0719141354_zpsfhrgi5os.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/c1ss396/media/69%20Camaro%20Endura%20Bumper/0719141354_zpsfhrgi5os.jpg.html)

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can we see the trim tag, please?

Jan </div></div>

Here ya go.

[SuperNovaSS]

Nice find Matt. I can't wait to see all the Day 2 additions!


Jason

[x77-69z28]

hey Matt, born the same week as mine! I think my NOR #is 317 something. Vin is 9N639XXX

[x77-69z28]

Hey Matt, is it an original cowl car?

[jannes_z-28]

Someone has added the chrome trimmings ( X33 has them X77 don't), and an Z/28 should have the long bumper horns in the rear. Maybe these changes were made when it was repaired in the 80's

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Yes, the chrome trim was added as the previous owner liked it better.

[Zman1969]

Man, you cant buy a used Z28 and not show under the hood! can you?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Here it is. Not that impressive. Luckily I have most of the stuff here to make it look right at least.

[C1SS396]

Hay Matt you forgot something !
So normally after a road trip you may have to clean some soda bottles,wrappers etc.
Not a trip with Matt this is what was behind the seat in my truck after picking up the Z.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/0413141520_zps6a00043b.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/c1ss396/media/0413141520_zps6a00043b.jpg.html)

[Zman1969]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here it is. Not that impressive. Luckily I have most of the stuff here to make it look right at least.
</div></div>
nope, just needs some lovin! its amazing a day of cleaning, painting and a few parts swapped will net in eye appeal, great car for a driver

[Fast67VelleN2O]

My fiance learning stick yesterday. She did much better than I thought for a first timer.

[Tracker1]

Very, very cool. She has fine taste in cars - and, given your generosity and patience, in men too!

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Great story...good luck.

wilma <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[69VN]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C1SS396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Matt no problem anytime it alway a adventure .
So we get it unloaded Matt take his bride to be for a quick ride in it . Before they get back a guy in a very nice camaro rolls up .Seem New Jeresy has 69 Camaro welcoming comitte.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/69%20Camaro%20Endura%20Bumper/0719141354_zpsfhrgi5os.jpg (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/c1ss396/media/69%20Camaro%20Endura%20Bumper/0719141354_zpsfhrgi5os.jpg.html) </div></div>

There's something you don't see much around here...a '69 Camaro in Butternut Yellow! Very cool! By the way the last time I saw one a guy had a straight six in one a few years back. Good luck with your new ride!

Sal

[Steve Shauger]

Well it's never too late. I just purchased this car (creamsicle)for my wife of 31 years. Matt shamed me into it... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[njsteve]

I got my wife a new coffee maker for our anniversary. She is very pleased.


(got her a new Dodge Charger earlier in the year) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[enio45]

I bought this for my wife for her birthday several yrs ago from a member here while I was at his
house prior to the MCACN show - BUT - she did not believe me ....

98 corvette - 18K miles

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/07/full-699-14322-img_1826.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Nice car Steve!!!

[RPOLS3]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well it's never too late. I just purchased this car (creamsicle)for my wife of 31 years. Matt shamed me into it... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif </div></div>

Steve-

Any chance that car was from Illinois at any time? About 25 years ago we had one like that (can't remember if our interior was white houndstooth or orange). RS/SS 350/Auto/Air/Tilt/Console/Guages. Had mostly original paint and all original interior at the time. Dad drove it out to Carlisle around 1987 and sold it there.

Jake

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well it's never too late. I just purchased this car (creamsicle)for my wife of 31 years. Matt shamed me into it... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif </div></div>

Steve-

Any chance that car was from Illinois at any time? About 25 years ago we had one like that (can't remember if our interior was white houndstooth or orange). RS/SS 350/Auto/Air/Tilt/Console/Guages. Had mostly original paint and all original interior at the time. Dad drove it out to Carlisle around 1987 and sold it there.

Jake </div></div>
I don't believe this is that car. This car was originally sold in Arizona and stayed there until after 1990. This car has air, but no gauges or tilt. This is a very original car as well.

I believe

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Just got our NCRS letter back today. It looks like they are still in business which coincidentally started in 1969. I'm hoping that the first year is always the most memorable. I'll call them this week.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

So I dressed it up under the hood a little better for the time being since it looked so horrible before that. Installed a set of original 1969 no dripper valve covers and a cowl air cleaner. Anything looks better than no air cleaner and rusty chrome moroso valve covers.

Thanks John and Lauren McKee for the cool vintage Camaro jacket she can rock while out cruising.

[69hurstSC]

Great lookin Z! Have fun with it.

[scuncio]

Nice!

[JBALL]

Very cool! They had my records as well.

[x77-69z28]

Very nice Matt. Turn those non droppers around! The crossed flags go on the passenger side. I know it's easier to put oil in, but I believe the cut outs on the valve covers around the intake only line up one way. After all, it is the next Z off the line after mine! Lol

[MosportGreen66]

Good stuff Matt. A little more cleaning under hood and she'll be in good shape.

Nice seeing you @ Carlisle...

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice Matt. Turn those non droppers around! The crossed flags go on the passenger side. I know it's easier to put oil in, but I believe the cut outs on the valve covers around the intake only line up one way. After all, it is the next Z off the line after mine! Lol </div></div>

I noticed that after I installed them. That's what I get for being in a hurry. Engine has to come out soon anyway so I'll take care of it then.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Just an update. Back in September, I pulled the engine because it was smoking above 3500 rpm and there was oil pumping out of everywhere. This is ok because the car did this when I bought it so I knew the engine had to come out eventually.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

This ended up being (one of) my problems.

I feel bad because my wife's been bugging me to get it finished up but I've been collecting parts (thanks to some of the members here) and getting another engine together to put into the car.

[VintageMusclecar]

Classic sign of detonation.

[PxTx]

So what are the plans for the new motor? Looking forward to some Day 2 fun!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I finally thrashed on this for a whole day and got it done. I think is sounds pretty tough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBReXJZy5tc

[anodyne33]

Rule.

[ds1]

looks great. Enjoy it

[cook_dw]

Definitely sounds tough.. Nice job

[markinnaples]

yeah, sounds great. 302 still?

[x77-69z28]

Good to see it back on the road. Sounds great!
Buddy

[earntaz]

What kind of bump-stick? Sounds awesome! TAZ

[70LS6454]

Very nice car! Sound good also. I'm sure you fiancee will Enjoy it!

[SuperNovaSS]

Well done Matt. It sounds great. How does it run?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Thanks guys. Cam is a Comp 292H. Just a 350 that had standard rebuild, flat tops with 4 eyebrows, 186 heads that were freshened up with standard 1.94 valves. 1.5 Crane roller rockers, stock 1969 Z28 intake manifold with an HEI and a Holley 650 double pumper.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70LS6454</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice car! Sound good also. I'm sure you fiancee will Enjoy it! </div></div>

She's my wife now.

[SuperNovaSS]

Congrats!


Jason

[PxTx]

Sounds like it will give the Disco Nova a run! Would love to see it if it ever happens.

Happy Wife, Happy Life!

[earntaz]

SHE looks like a keeper to me ... pretty lady with an awesome taste!!!

[Bill Pritchard]

Congrats on the nuptials and the car!

[PeteLeathersac]

Way cool car also best wishes for wedded bliss!
You look a lot taller in the pic than your counterpart on the cake?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Enoch]

Congratulations on getting married!!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Way cool car also best wishes for wedded bliss!
You look a lot taller in the pic than your counterpart on the cake?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete </div></div>

Here was the cake topper.

[markinnaples]

That's great. Congrats.

[GTO_DON]

I guess there was no room on that cake for a bunch of miniature intake manifolds huh? Congrats Matt!

[PeteLeathersac]

That's just the coolest!!!
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Supergas990]

Great cake topper <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

My wife would never have approved that 19 years ago (or today for that matter).

[x77-69z28]

Congrats Matt.

[70LS6454]

Congrats and a very cool cake :-) Best wishes!

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got my wife a new coffee maker for our anniversary. She is very pleased.


(got her a new Dodge Charger earlier in the year) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>


Where can I find one so reasonably pleased...

[Fast67VelleN2O]

We took the Camaro to Atco Raceway last night. Great air, good prep. Left the car as it is, with the 20 year old hard as a rock tires and everything just to get a good baseline. I ended up hurting the transmission on my 3rd pass, but this was the best pass of the night. I think it'll go 12's with a good set of tires and if I get the wheel hop situation taken care of and get that 60 foot down to the 1.8XX range. A few people came up and were wondering why I was &quot;beating on&quot; an original Z/28. I had a good laugh at that one.

[PxTx]

Sounds like a good time! That mph shows there is another second left to lose. Would love to see more pics.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Would love to see more pics. </div></div>

These are the most recent pictures that I have.

[MosportGreen66]

nice patina... get the grill argent! Will totally alter the look of the car.

Dan

[PxTx]

Pics at Atco was what I was hoping for, but they can be hard to get, esp at night. Thanks!

[quik9r]

wheel hop... car is sitting to high in rear. Great looking car. mph should be good for 12.90s

[Vortecpro]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We took the Camaro to Atco Raceway last night. Great air, good prep. Left the car as it is, with the 20 year old hard as a rock tires and everything just to get a good baseline. I ended up hurting the transmission on my 3rd pass, but this was the best pass of the night. I think it'll go 12's with a good set of tires and if I get the wheel hop situation taken care of and get that 60 foot down to the 1.8XX range. A few people came up and were wondering why I was &quot;beating on&quot; an original Z/28. I had a good laugh at that one. </div></div>

Excellent! These guys out there that have these cars that do not race them have no idea what they are missing out on, at least have one in your collection you can take to the track and race. I had one older customer (67 years old) that would come by my shop and talk about racing before he went to nam, then had a family and never raced again, same with all his friends, but that didn't stop him and his friends from filling up barns with muscle cars, well one day I said John why don't you stop talking about racing and just start racing, why don't you do what all your old friends talk about? He says well......you really think I should, your dam right you should, Today....John is almost 68 years old, he looks forward to the start of racing season, he changed his life, this summer he wheeled his 10 sec wheels up small block Camaro at many high altitude races and had the time of his life........I couldn't be more proud! You old timers out there should consider this post....change your life

[x77-69z28]

Not a bad time Matt. Get some sticky tires, it will be in the 12's. Just gotta be careful of breakage!
Buddy

[resto4u]

That is cool, your never too old to have fun. And i bet he has some great stories and could teach the younger ones a few tricks.

[ds1]

Great. Get that thing out and use it. I love driving my dinosaurs. Putting them up on pedestal is just not fun unless your to old to drive them. My dad helps me when I need a hand and I made him drive my race car. It was nice to share the hard work we put into keeping them running. Get that 12 second slip, cant wait to see a 302 run a good number. You what it takes and where the weak links are. Dan

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great. Get that thing out and use it. I love driving my dinosaurs. Putting them up on pedestal is just not fun unless your to old to drive them. </div></div>

Ditto. I took mine out today for a grocery store run. Last weekend it was at the racetrack (as seen in post below).

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...g-racing#UNREAD (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/634196/gonew/1/day-2-drag-racing#UNREAD)

That's the great thing about having something a little rough around the edges without show car paint - I don't feel bad about actually enjoying it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Vortecpro]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great. Get that thing out and use it. I love driving my dinosaurs. Putting them up on pedestal is just not fun unless your to old to drive them. </div></div>

Ditto. I took mine out today for a grocery store run. Last weekend it was at the racetrack (as seen in post below).

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...g-racing#UNREAD (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/634196/gonew/1/day-2-drag-racing#UNREAD)

That's the great thing about having something a little rough around the edges without show car paint - I don't feel bad about actually enjoying it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>
Very cool!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Just an update with this. We Day 2'd the car after I finally found some original patina parts such as the NMW tow tabs, the MAS big slapper bars, and the original round spoke Cragars and some Hi-Jackers.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I also found some very nice original black interior parts over the past few years and finally got around to installing them along with a nice shallow walnut wheel. I also installed a nice original 1969 shifter assembly but put a Day 2 Hurst knob in black on it. I didn't replace the faded carpet to keep with the patina look. Here's the before and after.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

We ended up taking the car to Cruisin Ocean City MD this past week and had a blast. The car received some great reception. Everyone loved it even with it's ratty paint.

[earntaz]

Mickey's and all!!! COOL

[markinnaples]

I love the new look of your Camaro, perfect Day 2.

Are those 15x8 or 15x10's?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love the new look of your Camaro, perfect Day 2.

Are those 15x8 or 15x10's? </div></div>

They're 15x8&quot;.

[SS427]

Love it!

[x77-69z28]

Paint doesn't look ratty to me!
Buddy

[COPO]

Wow, that looks plain bad. Reminds me of high school days.

[black69]

Car looks just right! By the way, I went back through the thread and saw the topper of your wedding cake. Priceless.
I showed that to my wife, and she laughed! Well done!

[anodyne33]

Man I just love that car so much.

[ZLP955]

Looks great! How big is the gap between snubber and the front of the leaf spring though, looks to be hanging down?

[DW31S]

They do look a little low. Do you have wedges in there? I have several sets of Lakewoods that are original with &quot;patina&quot;.......the new look.

[firstgenaddict]

Awesome project with a Nice original interior in that one!!!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Thanks for the compliments guys. Yes, the traction bars are sitting a little low. I didn't have any wedges when I installed them. I'll remedy that as soon as I get some free time.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

It was super nice out yesterday so I had the car out for a little bit.

[cook_dw]

Good looking ride. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[69z28302]

I want it !!!!!!

[ZLP955]

Very nice!

[markinnaples]

Matt, looks great. What tires and sizes do you have on the front and rear? 15x8 rears, what are the fronts? Looks killer.

[novadude]

The perfect stance and wheel and tire combination for a '69 Camaro. Takes me back to my high school days. It's a shame so many of these cars have gone the &quot;pro touring&quot; route.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Had the car out to the in law's for Christmas dinner. Probably one of the last nice days for the year (50 degrees). Hope everyone had a great holiday!

[earntaz]

Sittin' pretty -- TAZ

[cook_dw]

Those 15x4's make that car sit right.. Huge<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[brent396]

Not a better looking wheel out there for a 69 Camaro Looks KILLER !!!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[markinnaples]

Just bad-azz.

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just bad-azz. </div></div>

Yes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[70-SS/RS-L78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just bad-azz. </div></div>

Oh Yea! She sure is Purdy....
Mark

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[supercomp 8.90]

wow great picture! looks awesome!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Finally found the correct Rosewood steering wheel needed for an 05A car. I had an early shallow walnut on it before this. Thanks to member Jeff Miller for the cleanup and mild restoration on the wheel as it had some smoke damage. Wheel has some wear on it but it's perfect for this car.

https://scontent.fewr1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21949897_10159048455875538_912229045323301691_o.jp g?oh=d94e6b011999afe237e3117c0b23b2e6&oe=5A3D7A62

[dykstra]

Looks great!

[MosportGreen66]

Finally found the correct Rosewood steering wheel needed for an 05A car. I had an early shallow walnut on it before this. Thanks to member Jeff Miller for the cleanup and mild restoration on the wheel as it had some smoke damage. Wheel has some wear on it but it's perfect for this car.

https://scontent.fewr1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21949897_10159048455875538_912229045323301691_o.jp g?oh=d94e6b011999afe237e3117c0b23b2e6&oe=5A3D7A62

Perfect touch Matt! Looks great. Get working on the grill next...

Dan

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Perfect touch Matt! Looks great. Get working on the grill next...

Dan

It never bothered me before, being black, but it has started to bother me. I'll probably end up painting it at some point.

-Matt

[MosportGreen66]

It never bothered me before, being black, but it has started to bother me. I'll probably end up painting it at some point.

-Matt

LI Corvette Supply makes an argent paint that works real well for this... I used it on mine.