1969 Yenkos up for auction...seized by US Marshals

[StealthBird]

And many others, thanks to a Medicare scam. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/us-marshals-auctioning-off-rare-muscle-car-collection-163054978.html

Here's the auction site: http://www.ajwillnerauctions.com/auctions/us-marshals-seized-vehicle-collection

[StealthBird]

Some more pics:

[Tracker1]

yes, nice cars. Already discussed here on 2 separate threads.

[AutoInsane]

Auction is next Friday!!!! Should be interesting!

[njsteve]

They just added the updated info with the inspection reports on all of the Chevrolets (Yenkos and the Mailbu ragtop) this week.

Anyone from here going/bidding?

[firstgenaddict]

Is that Kevin Hands old RG Yenko Nova?
The Black Hat on the RG Nova really looks awesome to me... something about the V roof with the Ralley Green white stripe on the Nova.

[enio45]

JM report on all the cars is available

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that Kevin Hands old RG Yenko Nova?
The Black Hat on the RG Nova really looks awesome to me... something about the V roof with the Ralley Green white stripe on the Nova. </div></div>

I love that color combo too and blame it on one of my old Hotwheels.

[cudino]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JM report on all the cars is available </div></div>
Regarding the Additional Docs, for the RG Yenko Camaro on Page 3 of the added JM report he states:
&quot;All of the Yenko Camaros ordered by Yenko Chevrolet were X44 coded base cars.&quot;
In this report JM goes on to imply that, since this car's tag is coded 'X11', the fact that it is not coded X44 makes this tag suspect. I don't know this car or anything about the authenticity of the tag, but this statement about X44 being the only code for '69 Yenko Camaros is incorrect and, on its own, does not make this tag suspicious. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. But if I'm right it is a shame this paragraph is in this report.

- Wade

[mrays]

There are some pictures of the holding lot at Yenko showing some X11 cars waiting for their stripes. I have also seen a number of X11 cars in person and have no reason to believe their tags were reproductions. I agree that the part about the X11 tag not being legit should not be in the report. The decked and restamped block and questionable firewall are bigger issues though.

The Yenko Chevelle doesn't appear to have any issues although I was under the impression it still had it's original transmission which it apparently doesn't.

The report on the Nova seems to imply that the CE block in the car is the one that was installed by Yenko in 69. Does anybody know if that is true? I didn't think that car had the original Yenko installed block in it.

Charley, the Yenko Chevelle and Nova would look good in the Brothers Collection.

[Stefano]

It is unfortunate that the &quot;expert&quot; has provided erroneous information on more than one of these Yenkos.

[GTO_DON]

He's just tryin to knock the price down for one of his customers maybe

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Can someone post the reports here, I had a quick look on the website but didn't see the reports?

Ryan

[bergy]

Ryan - Just click on car that you are interested in under &quot;supporting documents&quot;. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I'm sorry to see a statement so incorrect about Yenko trim tags made by someone people rely on. There are plenty of X11 trim tags on Yenko Camaros. The uneducated statement presented as fact probably hurt the sales price of that car. There right thing to do would be a retraction and correction.
As for the Nova there is no proof it was ever a 427 car that I know of. Yes there are supposed to be old pics of it with Yenko decals but how do we know Yenko didn't just add stripes to make it more sale able and never put the 427 in ? There was already one certified 427 Yenko Nova that was proven on this site by orig. owner family that it left Yenko as a 396.

[firstgenaddict]

Charlie if I am not mistaken you have a (the only if I am not mistaken) X11 Daytona Yellow Yenko Camaro?

[Charley Lillard]

I have a orange X11 Yenko.

[William]

The Daytona Yellow X11 Yenko Camaro is here in WI. Probably one of the highest optioned of the bunch: C08 D55 M40 N40 VE3 Z21 Z23.

[firstgenaddict]

Agreed that one is well equipped. Nice, really like the Vtop on the DY cars.

[Stefano]

There are more than just a couple authentic X11 code Yenko Camaros in existence. Several belong to members here on the site.

[iluv69s]

So according to Jerry M., the L-89 car seems very suspect...?? Is that correct about the holes in the rockers??

[mrays]

I'm no expert like some of the guys on here, but I have seen several unrestored documented 70 Chevelle SS's with the trim piece along the bottom of the rocker. I don't know if they came from the factory like that or were installed later on. Here is an unrestored LS6 with the rocker trim. I think Stefano had it at one time.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/09/full-18308-15640-img_3363.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/09/full-18308-15641-img_3283.jpg

[camaromb]

Why would a high performance dealer and Yenko dealer such as V.V. Cooke need to ship in a 396 Nova from Yenko? The 396 Nova sold at Yenko was converted and documented as a 427 car years later when it benefitted the owners at that time. Yes, uneducated statements presented as facts do affect the values of these cars.

[TDW]

Have any of you guys that know JM asked him about the tags? I've spoken to him on the phone a few years back, but don't feel that I know him well enough to question him. Couldn't hurt to ask?

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan - Just click on car that you are interested in under &quot;supporting documents&quot;. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

Thanks Bruce, my clicker let me down:-)

Ryan

[enio45]

I got an X11 yenko Camaro - 02D build

[bkhpah]

There are documented 396/375 1968 COPO unconverted Yenko Camaros sold at dealers other than Yenko. The X11 tag statement is ridiculous. I guess the X66 Yenkos are all now suspect as well. And there are DOCUMENTED Yenkos that never had the bowties removed. And how in the world could anyone state that a CE block in a Yenko Nova is the one that it came with?..BKH

[ss427copo]

Very interesting posts.......

[bkhpah]

I also have real YENKO paperwork with 69 Yenko Novas with 4:10 rears..BKH

[chads454Ls6]

The Yenko Chevelle doesn't appear to have any issues although I was under the impression it still had it's original transmission which it apparently doesn't.


When I owned this Chevelle the transmission and interior were original to the car.

[robber6910]

I wish I had the coin to buy up all those beauties!!! They're all keepers.

[JoeC]

a number of mistakes in the Yenko Chevelle CHP certification.
states that Yenko records show 95 were built but the production number used since the 1980s is 99 and I never heard any other number used.
I guess it could be a typo but it is in two different places in the certification

a few mistakes under the CHP cert option list one obvious one is the COPO 9737 is not listed although it is shown on the original Yenko order form included in the report. Order form shows it as the Yenko Sports Car conversion option.
The COPO 9737 was one of the unique highlights of the Yenko Chevelles so would think it is an important option to note.
also shows tires as F70x14 but the Yenko Chevelle used a special F70x15

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mrays</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.....I have seen several unrestored documented 70 Chevelle SS's with the trim piece along the bottom of the rocker. I think Stefano had it at one time.
</div></div>

This is Howard Cox's old Chevelle and Stefano brokered it.

As far as the rocker moldings, this is a long standing argument. I have photos of 454 cars from back in the early 80's with rocker moldings and the owners swore they came that way. However, I have NEVER seen one ounce of documentation showing that they were done that way from the factory. That being said, the factory made mistakes ALL the time so it was certainly possible. I have seen that first hand numerous times. Never say never.

[SS427]

As far as the Blue Yenko Chevelle that Chad used to own, I won't post them here but I have photos of the drivetrain on that car when he and I tore it down that shows it still retained it's born with engine, trans and rear.

[camaromb]

The rallye green Yenko should not be an X11, it is originally an X44 car if it is the one John O. owned. That body was dipped during restoration and the original tag was lost. It was an original Jack Douglas sold Yenko.

[Charley Lillard]

If you mean the late John Oquinn I'm told this is a different car.

[camaromb]

I meant Ohler's old yenko, N616658, that is the car I'm referring to. It was for sale on the north side of Chicago in '86 or so, sitting on a side street near Montrose harbor for $ 6,000, painted black, Yenko 350 for sale, can't be real ??. Oops, missed that one.

[AutoInsane]

Auction tomorrow! Anyone going to be bidding??

[Stefano]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you mean the late John Oquinn I'm told this is a different car. </div></div>

That Yenko was at Mecum Indy 2013.......anyone know who bought it?

[John]

.... How about some updates from guys that are attending the auction <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif


If you want to make sure you get the car you like.....

.... Just keep doing this <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif at the auction.

[Charley Lillard]

Brian Henderson is headed there and will fill us in later.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

That's not an easy place to get to in rush hour - hope he left early!

[bkhpah]

Waiting for auction to start. Was here yesterday for the previews. The Yenko's are scheduled 4th thru 6th. Nova, Camaro, chevelle in that order. Cars are very tired IMO. US marshals have been great, but no pictures are permitted. Lynn Yenko is here, and cannot be interveiwed by the press like Fox, because of the case. Why I don't know. A decent crowd so far.

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/09/full-23-15790-img_0331.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Exciting!!!

Anyone willing to put guestimates on the 3 Yenko cars?

[Charley Lillard]

From Brian:
Nova 400K
Camaro 315K
Chevelle 237,500.00
Superbird 575K
Boss 429 265K
Shelby 170K

[Charley Lillard]

LS6 155K
Malibu clone 70K

[Charley Lillard]

Brian said the Nova had a smallblock core support and other stuff.
Thanks for the on the scene reporting.

[Charley Lillard]

71 Hemi Cuda project 337,500.00 WOW

[Mr70]

Who took that photo &amp; how?
I thought no pictures were allowed?

[bergy]

Pretty strong prices considering it was a government auction. The last auction company that the government used (now fired) didn't promote the auctions at all &amp; the bidding was 100% on-line - great for the buyers (if you were one of the lucky ones who actually found out about the auction).

Looks like hemi Mopar pricing is coming back!

Auction was seen live on-line.

[sYc]

results (http://www.bidspotter.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/bscaj/catalogue-id-bscaj10002)

[69hurstSC]

Pretty big money for the Hemi Bird as well.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

HOLY HELL! 1971 Cuda project mid restoration. 347,500?!?!?!?!?!

[ktownkid]

.................er.................ah.........I&quot;l l write ya a check........ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

ktownkid <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HOLY HELL! 1971 Cuda project mid restoration. 347,500?!?!?!?!?! </div></div>

$50,000 to finish,

550-575K+ at BJ or Mecum, Scottsdale in January

Tidy six-figure profit: priceless.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I don't think hardtop Hemi Cudas are bringing that kind of money restored currently.

[enio45]

anyone know who got the yenko chevelle - I stopped bidding on line at 225 :-(

[rich p]

That would mean?? V.V. Cook ordered a small block nova from Don Yenko or even a 396 car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

[rich p]

Hopefully the same buyer who bought the Yenko Nova for a great price for the pair!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[black69]

I started a thread on 'mopar prices on the rise?', under the mopar section of this website, back in July. I thought I saw prices climing and maybe we were all not noticing it.

Hemi cars are moving up alot, looking at this auction's results. Mopars in general could all move up because of the hype. 71 cudas are definitely going to get a bump (they only made 5000 or so total, all engine variants, this hemi project car will impact them all as far a value).

[Charley Lillard]

Looks to me like the only decent deal was the Chevelle.

[mr 707]

just cause its a govt auction doesnt mean yenkos and hemis are going to be given away.

[njsteve]

It was an amazing event to attend! 100 bidders on site and 40 on-line bidders. All the winning bidders were guys who were present (no on-line winners). It was quite exciting to see. On most of the cars, the bidding would go up to a certain high bid, then the auctioneer would give the third and final call and another &quot;poker-faced&quot; bidder would throw the next bid out starting the whole adrenaline-fest all over again. It was like watching an hour-long horse race. In the end, the auction pulled in 2.535 million dollars. And no buyers fees here, either which was one reason the bidders were going all-in.

There were a lot of TV news reporters there taping the entire event: Fox, MSNBC, CBS, etc.

I did see a few familiar faces in the seats. Was anyone else from here, there?

70 Boss 429: $265,000
67 Shelby GT500: $170,000
70 Malibu Convertible L89 Tribute: $70,000
69 Yenko Nova: $400,000
69 Yenko Camaro: $315,000
69 Yenko Chevelle: $237,500
Hemi Superbird: $575,000
70 Chevelle LS6: $155,000
71 Hemicuda project car: $347,500

Total: $2,535,000

Before the bidding was opened up on each car, they would read a brief description. They did announce the L89 Chevelle ragtop was a tribute car, which was nice to see that they clarified the description for everyone there in no uncertain terms. I wished all auctions worked that way. All in all it was a very professionally done auction. With some humor at times as the auctioneer was an old time Joysey native who threw in a couple Jersey inside jokes - all he needed was a guy on snare drum to back him up. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[black69]

To me, the good deal was on the yenko nova.

[njsteve]

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/09/12/blood-money-muscle-car-auction-nets-25-million-in-bids/

[bkhpah]

Just got back home from the auction. While I only really concentrated on the three Yenko cars, the Chevelle was by far and away the best of the three. I bid you off the Chevelle [sorry Ed}. I am pretty certain that the same guy bought the Camaro and the Nova. The auctioneer reminded a bit of Joe Pesci, and he did a great job. It was over in under 40 minutes. They made an announcement that they in no way are responsible for anything wrong with the cars. You buy them, you own them. They encouraged bidders to inspect or have a professional look them over. They also said they did their best to help document the cars with outside inspection, BUT those are not to be taken as correct. Only people in the audience ended up with cars, but once in a while a phone bidder was called out....BKH

[cudino]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks to me like the only decent deal was the Chevelle. </div></div>
Personally I think the 'Cuda was also somewhat of a deal. Arguably, to replace some of the bad repop parts (repop shaker hood, etc) and restore this car right will take another $125K. But if done and fresh today this particular car (which I believe to be a #s car with paperwork and extremely desirable options) would be worth $500K. So I think the buyer did OK, and who knows how much higher the '71 'Cuda market will be when this car is finally done about a year from now. As for the recent market, these '71s have already been on this track, with a Curious Yellow #s Auto going for ~$500K and a #s Stick car in the same color as this one going for ~$600K. These sales were at public auctions within the last 9 months, so this data should be of no surprise to anyone. There have also been 2 other private sales in this same price range, which were also for '71 Hemicudas that had it all. Buyers are clearly willing to pay up for these '71 Hemi 'Cudas, and in particular for the &quot;everything&quot; examples like this one. The only surprise to me was why this car didn't get bid up another $25K more.
- Wade

[bkhpah]

The GOOD deal on the Yenko Nova may seem a bit different if you had a proper inspection. Many major components and not just bolt ons where incorrect. Just on the body alone, the non 69 hood and decklid, the incorrect small block core support, and incorrect radiator and the 1972 quarter panels are problems to me. Tinted glass is incorrect. 100% of the wheel and tire combination was incorrect for a Yenko Nova as well. There was something wrong with the rear suspension as the springs were digging into the frame rails. The special Nova heavy washers at the firewall frame bushing position where missing, and that will kick the sheetmetal all over the place. 1970 and up headlight buckets to the incorrect base interior Nova dome lamp bezel and 1971 steering box. This was just the tip of that iceberg... All of these things are correctable, but it is not a top shelf car..BKH

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think hardtop Hemi Cudas are bringing that kind of money restored currently. </div></div>

Excuse me? It has louvers, billboards, spoilers and a hi-impact colour - it'll go a half mill for sure.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/09/full-3497-15833-cuda71.jpg

[61 vert]

Thanks Brian for your honest,no punches pulled evaluation of the nova. Maybe the new owner has another 100,000 to spend with you to fix it up.I don't think that 400,000 for the nova is top shelf price. Find another one for sale or that has sold to compare to.Kind of hard to establish value when they just don't trade hands but once every 5 years.Just my opinion. Also, the nova and the camaro did not go to the same buyer.

[Stefano]

Hello Andy, Is the Nova heading back to Iowa?

[njsteve]

Local news coverage with names of some of the buyers.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/09...25_million.html (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/09/rare_auction_of_vintage_muscle_cars_seized_in_brib ery_scheme_nets_25_million.html)

[Charley Lillard]

John Ursini of Long Island plunked down $315,000 for a 1969 Chevrolet Yenko Camaro, one of just 200 manufactured that year.
John Ursini had the winning bid of $315,000 for a 1969 Chevrolet Yenko Camaro.
It was Ursini’s first time at an auction and, after winning the Camaro, was asking Oseid for help finding someone who could transport the car back to New York. He said he has plans to “flip” it to a new buyer.

“But I’m going to hold onto it for a while,” Ursini said.

[61 vert]

Nova is going to Iowa.

[68l30]

To be fixed or parked?

BIG

[NovaMob03]

auction stated that Vince Emme certified the Nova and it has a build sheet? Didn't know he had gotten re-involved... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[COPO CARTEL]

To be enjoyed ! Private collector. 90% of muscle cars valued over 100 K are parked. This guy actually drives and enjoys his cars. As well as shares them with the public. Congrats Andy

[iluv69s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NovaMob03</div><div class="ubbcode-body">auction stated that Vince Emme certified the Nova and it has a build sheet? Didn't know he had gotten re-involved... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

</div></div>


I assume the build sheet is not very useful in documenting the 427?? Was it an L-78 to start?? Was it a bottom end transplant?? Is this car 100% a 427 conversion?? It seemed I read there was some doubt?? How did Yenko typically do the conversions?? What's the history on the car ?? Curious what Vince's report says. Maybe documented by him years ago?????

I love the car by the way... I remember my buddy's Big Block 69 Nova back in the day.. I can just imagine this beast !!


Not saying anything about this or any other specific car, but it only takes one or two auctions where the car was sold for large $$ that the car then becomes somehow legit, especially if it had been owned by a high profile collector.. I guess they figure if 'that guy' once owned it, it must be real. ??????

[rich p]

Looks to me just about every car went to someone looking to flip the car in the future!! The Hemi Bird took the biggest leap in money since he bought it from me!!
The Bird was restored with everything NOS, down to the valve stems to tires to the headlights!! There are two repo parts on the bird! Good luck finding them!!

[bergy]

The Vince Emme document on the Nova is contained in the paperwork listed on the site. It just says that it's a documented Yenko Nova. Nothing about 427 conversion, but maybe that was assumed to be the case?

Rich - you're helping too many felons find great cars!!! LOL

[Mr Yenko]

The Yenko Chevelle was the BEST deal of the day. Orig mileage and drivetrain. The LS6 chevelle non orig motor... That's good money...

[PhilS]

I agree on the Chevelle. Awesome car. It seems that top tier musclecars have made their way back with Hemis leading the way as usual.

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr Yenko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Yenko Chevelle was the BEST deal of the day. Orig mileage and drivetrain. The LS6 chevelle non orig motor... That's good money... </div></div>

I heard the black LS6 Chevelle was a mess and way over-paid by the buyer....?

[NovaMob03]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C O P O CARTEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To be enjoyed ! Private collector. 90% of muscle cars valued over 100 K are parked. This guy actually drives and enjoys his cars. As well as shares them with the public. Congrats Andy </div></div>
So, then the Nova's going in to Dennis Albaugh's collection...has over 150 Chevy's? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[61 vert]

that is correct.

[rich p]

Funny thing is the LS6 was restored by RK Motors!! Dave spent a lot of money with them back in the day!! Even the L89 was told to be real from RK for LS6 money..

[JoeC]

The Vince Emme document on the Nova has a Notary public stamp from Minnesota with an expiration date of 1993 so the letter would have to predate that up to maybe 5 years or whatever the term of the seal was