1970 nova ss Survivor

[brent396]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321504970936?ssPageName

[Tracker1]

Matchy-match.

http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_...ign=DA0914-S108 (http://www.mecum.com/lot-detail.cfm?lot_id=DA0914-195143&utm_source=emv&utm_medium=email&utm_campaig n=DA0914-S108)

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Nice car, love the Gobi Beige cars. I've seen Sandalwood interiors, but very few with Gold Guts - the last one we saw was the L78 project car on Steve's site....

[RPOLS3]

Originally white stripes and full wheel covers - which full wheel covers did the SS get? Don't know that I've ever seen them. Usually poverty caps or 5 spoke SS wheels.

Jake

[ktownkid]

That is a hard-to-find air cleaner lid..........

ktownkid <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally white stripes and full wheel covers - which full wheel covers did the SS get? Don't know that I've ever seen them. Usually poverty caps or 5 spoke SS wheels.

Jake </div></div>

There were 2 different full size wheel covers available...one was the normal Chevy one used on Impala, Nova and Chevelle...and there was a finned Corvette style option as well.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=1970+nova+brochure&amp;FORM=HDRSC2

[DW31S]

Seems a little pricey to me. Very nice car, and I too, LOVE the earth-tone colors. I guess 50 large doesn't get much bought any more.

[GTO_DON]

I'd be shocked if it brings 40k.

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ktownkid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a hard-to-find air cleaner lid..........

ktownkid <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif </div></div>

need one??

[ktownkid]

No.....found one......it's a flat lid...chrome....was hard to find.

Thanks-
ktownkid <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[92646]

I thought the air cleaner did not have the valve on the air horn on the SS350 in 1969?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd be shocked if it brings 40k. </div></div>

Agree 100%!

[markjohnson]

Am I the only one thinking of this today?

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 92646</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought the air cleaner did not have the valve on the air horn on the SS350 in 1969? </div></div>

I believe the automatic cars had the heat valve...4 spd cars did not...

is that photo a 4 spd??

wilma

[92646]

Tom, you are right it is a 4-speed car California car. I do not know if the car will sell for his asking price but I paid stupid money for a 69 SS350 4-speed Nova about 6 months ago. You just never know when a car pushes all your buttons.

[RPOL88]

I agree. Not enough bolts on the valve covers to bring that money.

[bigsixman]

I think $30-$35,000 is a lot closer to the real number for this nova.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Perhaps a little less even, although I personally might like the color combination, it is not really helping the value....

[Schonyenko2]

When I first moved here in 73, a guy had one in that color combo with an L34 396. It was a cool looking piece.

[lowmile]

Mid twenties would be fair for a 350 auto with aftermarket air and some rattle can work under the hood. Those arne't the original front seat covers unless somebody added some foam. I'm sure its a nice car, but I would want to lay my eyes on it for sure.

[Andy]

I live in Toccoa, GA now. I need to ask my uncle if he remembers seeing this car back in the day. He graduated from high school in 1970 and loves Novas so I bet he remembers it. There is another Nova in Toccoa that is just as clean as that car is that was purchased new by a lady that lives a few miles from me. We've tried to buy it many times but she never would sell it. I'll see if I can get some pics to share the next time I see it out.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Is it just me?? That interior looks almost to freshly new to be a original 53,000 mile car,what does everyone else think??

[302moz]

Color kills it!Not a very nice looking car .

[JayR]

A question that came up on Stevesnovasite. Was the TH400 available on the 1970 SS 350 Nova?

Bob

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 302moz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Color kills it!Not a very nice looking car . </div></div>

You have to see Gobi Beige in person, it's not terrible - but not for everyone. Some folks actually like it <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[XXXGoldL34M20]

I like it,
It looks like a very mellow yellow more than a beige when you see it in person, something like the earlier Butternut Yellow <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

It does make you think of BY or Lemonwood Yellow, but when you see GB next to BY - night and day! It will really look tan / beige next to BY.

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JayR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A question that came up on Stevesnovasite. Was the TH400 available on the 1970 SS 350 Nova?

Bob </div></div>

I don't think it was possible during 1970,based on factory &amp; dealer paperwork I've seen &amp; reserved only for the Big Block.
Of course paper isn't always reflective of what they really did.
If it was,would think numerous owners should be easily able to prove it.

[JayR]

Have now heard from a number of sources that the TH400 showed up in factory installs on numerous SB cars. Seems if a car had a 3 speed automatic, the factory installed whatever they had. If there was shortage of TH350's, they put in TH400's. Apparently, many SS350's have TH400's and even some 307 V/8 cars have them. Few people in those days probably knew the difference anyway. As long as your 3 speed automatic transmission worked reliably nobody really cared what it was.

Bob

[lowmile]

Not saying it's impossible to have a turbo 400 in a SB SS or plain Jain small block, but I have owned 50 or so 68-72's and looked at hundreds more and I have never seen or heard of one. It's not as simple as sticking a 400 in there if you don't have a 350. Different; cross member, output shaft, drive shaft, kick down switch. different front spring for the added weight, As common as the 350 trans were in those Novas I just don't see GM running out. But never say never.

[JayR]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lowmile</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not saying it's impossible to have a turbo 400 in a SB SS or plain Jain small block, but I have owned 50 or so 68-72's and looked at hundreds more and I have never seen or heard of one. It's not as simple as sticking a 400 in there if you don't have a 350. Different; cross member, output shaft, drive shaft, kick down switch. different front spring for the added weight, As common as the 350 trans were in those Novas I just don't see GM running out. But never say never. </div></div>

If it can be believed, the paperwork on the SS350 being discussed in this thread, says it has a TH400.

Bob

[iluv69s]

My best friend had a sm blk 70 ss w a T 400 back in about 1980..by then anything may have changed, but we always thought it was original.

[lowmile]

I think in the ad says it has a Turbo Hydromatic Transmission. I may be missing where it says it's a 400.

[iluv69s]

It does say M40 on the trans option.. That is T400 correct? And M35 was T 350 I believe.

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does say M40 on the trans option.. That is T400 correct? And M35 was T 350 I believe. </div></div>

Somewhere I have seen a discussion about the M40 designation as referring to the Turbo-Hydramatic transmission and not necessarily which one.

The only 70 Nova to come with a factory Th400 was the Yenko Deuce.

wilma

[JayR]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does say M40 on the trans option.. That is T400 correct? And M35 was T 350 I believe. </div></div>

Somewhere I have seen a discussion about the M40 designation as referring to the Turbo-Hydramatic transmission and not necessarily which one.

The only 70 Nova to come with a factory Th400 was the Yenko Deuce.

wilma </div></div>

The paperwork on this SS350 states: OM40AB TURBO HYDRA-MATIC.

My 1970 L78 was built with an M40 TH400.....GM Canada documented.

Bob

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does say M40 on the trans option.. That is T400 correct? And M35 was T 350 I believe. </div></div>

M35 was Powerglide
M38 was TH350
M40 was TH400

Anyone know the rear ratio this Gobi came with?

[WILMASBOYL78]

The POP calls out [CRE] 350/300hp w/TH350 trans...

the trans code on the POP is YOM06...I can't match that up with anything I have.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321504970936?ssPageName

simple solution to this...just have the guy post a pic of the tranny from the underside...that will settle it.

Wilma

**update..Nastyz28 site has listing for TH350 trans...Y = Toledo Plant TH350 Trans..

http://nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.html

as I said before...no TH400 with 350/300hp...only the Deuce

[ZiggyL78]

Back in the day I never would have considered that color,but I sure would love to see this one in my driveway.I must be mellowing with age. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 302moz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Color kills it!Not a very nice looking car . </div></div>

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/monc...gationFlag=true (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/moncton/1972-oldsmobile-442-coupe/493616784?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true)

[Mr70]

Why doesn't his shipper have prices?

[TimG]

M40 was the way they called out the transmission even if it was a Turbo 350. My '69 Pace Car window sticker for the 350 cubic inch motor has the same M40 designation.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Thanks...exactly what I thought. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

wilma

[JayR]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">M40 was the way they called out the transmission even if it was a Turbo 350. My '69 Pace Car window sticker for the 350 cubic inch motor has the same M40 designation. </div></div>

What do you get when it says M38?

B.

[lowmile]

What Tim and Tom said +1

[Kurt S]

WS - often early stickers had pricing issues and were reissued.

TH350 would appear as M40 on the WS, same as a TH400. Price would be more if it was a TH400.

The engines with TH400's had unique engine codes from TH350's - only full-size had either trans available and they had the extra engine codes for it.

The color combo works. When do you ever see that top color?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Chevy patch from the selling dealer of this Nova!