MECUM Dallas 2014 Auction

[Mr70]

For those registered,you can watch the auction live here.
http://www.mecum.com/live.cfm

[mrays]

Does anybody know who the tall guy is who is sitting in the front row with the two blondes wearing orange dresses who keep walking in front of the camera as the cars are going across the block? I saw him at Mecum Indy also where he bought a number of cars.

[bkhpah]

How does a non documented 67 Yenko sold Camaro outsell a documented original 69 427 Yenko Camaro???BKH

[enio45]

brian agree - I don't understand the hype/sale on the car - unless someone has info the car is for real???

[Stefano]

The first Yenko 427 Camaro, as far as I know is YS601. It is confirmed by all the paperwork, the mechanics which worked on the car, the original owners who purchased the car and the dealership sales manager who ordered the car directly from Don Yenko.

[mr 707]

people buy counterfit cars at auctions everyday. i cant believe it either and paid more than a REAL 69 yenko. They bought a STORY and a nice ss350.

[bkhpah]

I don't think this car was even an SS350..

[mr 707]

if you read the description of the car that mecum gives you can hear the tap dance around the fact this its not a converted 427 car. Warren should know the car if it sat around for a year at the yenko dealership.

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How does a non documented 67 Yenko sold Camaro outsell a documented original 69 427 Yenko Camaro???BKH </div></div>
Proof they're serving alcohol there. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

[John]

.... Are there an records that show what the &quot;CE&quot; number on the Yenko Dealer installed motors were ?

.... I know that there are records from which cars were going to be converted and were assigned a &quot;YS&quot;

number..... would they also have any records showing what the &quot;CE&quot; motor was that was installed in

each? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

.... Was this car in any of the photos or advertisements that show yenko &quot;Converting&quot; a Camaro ?

.... Who restored this gold Camaro?

.... Who bought it?

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[ZL1#61]

Here is the pictures of the car when it was found by me

[ZL1#61]

Body1

[enio45]

is that a state supplied VIN tag?

[camaromb]

State of Ohio

[ZL1#61]

Pictures 2

[ZL1#61]

Pic 3

[ZL1#61]

Pic 4

[mr 707]

was the state assigned tag still on the car at the auction?? OMG

[L72copocamaro]

What's with the trim tag?

[resto4u]

That tag was off the car, and looks like someone tried to re-stamp it from behind. The story, state issued vin number, trim tag, non ss car, and seller. I would not buy this car even without the story.

[Born30YrsLate]

Was there a pre-auction estimate on the '67 Gold Camaro?...that would be interesting...

[Schonyenko2]

I think the car was done in Clinton IA. They are good folks. To the best of my knowledge, they've never worked on any Yenko cars before. I would guess they built the car to the owners directions. It's not really their job to verify it's legitimacy. They were hired to hang sheet metal, and put on the paint.

No previous owner, or people who had info on the car to my knowledge claimed it was a conversion as it's my understanding they never saw any docs to conclusively prove a conversion ever happened.

While we all tend to shake our collective heads about this, there seems to be a certain segment of wealthy people who buy these cars without caring about the proper pedigree. And amazingly, they seem to then garner more money later on. Example: Blk L89 70 Nova, silver re bodied Yenko deuce. As in politics, seems if you repeat it enough times, folks begin to believe it's the truth.

I had a conversation with a gentleman who knew this car well. He felt, and I agreed with him, that the seller would do well. Some people out there really don't much care much about the facts, or what we all think. FWIW

[67rs/ss]

If it was restored as an early conversion. I think it would have a small block fan shroud and heater core. Also the motor looks to be sitting back too far the fan blade is not covered at all by the fan shroud.

[enio45]

The car is going into a personal museum from what I understand and not resold anytime in the next 10's of yrs.

[enio45]

soooo, in essence, it is MBTMF concept

[John]

.... What is &quot;MBTMF concept&quot; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[Mr70]

Moth Ball The Mother Frocker.

[enio45]

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[supercomp 8.90]

I see that the vin is on the list on the 67 yenko list on this site, I wonder if the hidden vins match also?

[Stefano]

Having a car on that list proves somethings, but not by it self that it is a 427 Conversion.

[John]

.... Was it an &quot;unconverted&quot; car? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[Mr70]

How it was delivered to Don Yenko Chevrolet from the factory,(in the early years before the COPO program was accessed),and before he pulled the born with engine out &amp; installed a new 427cid. engine and added his stripes etc.

[John]

....What are you saying? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[Kurt S]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZL1#61</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the pictures of the car when it was found by me </div></div>
Was the axle original when you found it?

Too early for a 4P tag. That tag looks funky.

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZL1#61</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the pictures of the car when it was found by me </div></div>
Was the axle original when you found it?

Too early for a 4P tag. That tag looks funky. </div></div>

I agree, if I saw that on an auction floor I would think a jeweller or someone semi-skilled with a TIG tried to put tiny, tiny pieces in it.

[camaromb]

This car was a nothing car as found, who knows what happened to the trim tag. With a state assigned vin anything is possible. I don't see why anyone would have cared about the tag in as found condition, it was not an expensive car. I am an experienced tig welder. It would be almost impossible to weld the thin aluminum of a trim tag with a tig welder without burning through it.

[JoeC]

There could be another 40 1967 Camaro vins like this on the list of 107 &quot;Yenko Super Camaros&quot; that was sent to NHRA by Yenko Sports Cars on Aug. 7, 1967 . Ghost cars

[Zman1969]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How does a non documented 67 Yenko sold Camaro outsell a documented original 69 427 Yenko Camaro???BKH </div></div>
Proof they're serving alcohol there. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif </div></div>

Hey it is Texas you know , I like beer when I'm car shopping <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[Stefano]

Here is a reply to the Desert Rat Yenko advertisement. Anyone want to call him and provide and education. He did afterall take the time to email me.

Buyer Information:

keith

[email protected]

519 638 0599

WoW you should look at Hemmings today 300.000 for the first ever made yanko so I don't know where you get this price from

[SS427]

Simple answer. Big difference between a Yanko Camaro and Yenko Camaro! Some people just cannot be educated.

[bkhpah]

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/...yqi2uY.facebook (http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/09/09/first-camaro-delivered-to-yenko-chevrolet-sells-for-300000-in-dallas/#.VA8VAyqi2uY.facebook)

Here is an education...BKH

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
.... Was it an &quot;unconverted&quot; car?</div></div>

How it was delivered to Don Yenko Chevrolet from the factory,(in the early years before the COPO program was accessed),and before he pulled the born with engine out &amp; installed a new 427cid. engine and added his stripes etc.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....What are you saying? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif </div></div>

I can't be any more clearer then that.
What don't you understand?

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
.... Was it an &quot;unconverted&quot; car?</div></div>

How it was delivered to Don Yenko Chevrolet from the factory,(in the early years before the COPO program was accessed),and before he pulled the born with engine out &amp; installed a new 427cid. engine and added his stripes etc.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....What are you saying? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif </div></div>

I can't be any more clearer then that.
What don't you understand? </div></div>

He asked &quot;Was it..&quot;, not &quot;What is...&quot;

[COPO CARTEL]

What's as puzzling as the purchase price is ...it didn't get to 300K by itself ....there were other bidders as well. I wasn't at the auction ...did anybody know the other prospective buyers ? I wonder what Hank Aaron's first home run ball is worth compared to the one that broke the record (756?)

[Mr70]

Ah...sorry bout the mix up.

[mr 707]

the auction probably pumped the bids to get to that crazy number for a camaro that was sold at yenko and not a yenko camaro. i would have watched the block but it had already established it was a cloner.

[iluv69s]

so wait a minute here.... this car actually SOLD for 300k??? ..... with a state issued VIN??...with the most ridiculous cowl tag Ive ever seen??... and no evidence whatsoever that it was anything other than a 67 Camaro that was sold from Yenko Chevrolet??... assuming this is that car?? and the description was somewhat forthcoming I guess also...

... Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[DBelk]

Used to own that car and sold it to Joe Z. who sold it to Holub. I am in awe, sort of. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif Car looks great. Should have had him sell my Nickey Camaro. Bulletproof doc'd car I just sold for 95k. I'm sick!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Day2_69Z]

12637 tag
12437 Vin
????????????
Is this &quot;new math 101&quot; in rewriting known facts or corresponding/ non-corresponding body info or did the owner request a hard roof apposed to a soft one vs. a misunderstanding
when &quot;someone specifically requested the exact digits &quot;
from the OHIO DEPT. of TRANSPORTATION at some unknown date that coincided with the release of..YS vin #,s ??????

PS....I have a Granada Gold ,w Gold buckets, non console ,327 PG. non RS in mothballs too.