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67 Nova Boy
11-30-2014, 09:17 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-O...499&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-Old-Stock-Line-Loc-NIB-1965-Gasser-Hot-Street-Rat-Rod-NOS-Shifter-/361134568601?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item54154c3499&vxp=mtr)
When was the last time you saw this? Vintage Hurst
Dave
67 Nova Boy
I think it was on a 66 Impala at the Solid Lifter Showroom a few years back.
Salvatore
11-30-2014, 11:03 PM
And I can't get $425.00 for something that will really improve your survivor or high dollar frame offed resto?
Geeze!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-O...499&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-Old-Stock-Line-Loc-NIB-1965-Gasser-Hot-Street-Rat-Rod-NOS-Shifter-/361134568601?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item54154c3499&vxp=mtr)
When was the last time you saw this? Vintage Hurst
Dave
67 Nova Boy </div></div>
I saw it just this am in my 1970 Deuce Yenko <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/11/full-18271-19098-1970_fb_deuce_line_lock.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/11/full-18271-19099-1970_fb_deuce_eng.jpg
luzl78
11-30-2014, 11:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By:
[email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And I can't get $425.00 for something that will really improve your survivor or high dollar frame offed resto?
Geeze! </div></div>sam, I told you $85 for a tire valve stem cap was just a little too much. Jeff
Salvatore
11-30-2014, 11:56 PM
Not for these brother!
67 Nova Boy
12-01-2014, 12:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-O...499&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-Old-Stock-Line-Loc-NIB-1965-Gasser-Hot-Street-Rat-Rod-NOS-Shifter-/361134568601?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item54154c3499&vxp=mtr)
When was the last time you saw this? Vintage Hurst
Dave
67 Nova Boy </div></div>
I saw it just this am in my 1970 Deuce Yenko <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/11/full-18271-19098-1970_fb_deuce_line_lock.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/11/full-18271-19099-1970_fb_deuce_eng.jpg
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This is an earlier Lin Loc...look at the button and the set-up
Dave
67 Nova Boy
Verne_Frantz
12-01-2014, 12:25 PM
Weren't the first ones called "Roll Control"?
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Salvatore
12-01-2014, 01:53 PM
yep, I believe so.
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 03:16 PM
The eBay Line Loc from 64-65 is one of the First issues. (LINE LOC) repro Decals are on eBay regularly (nasty looking faded prints)
The white button matched the the White HURST shifter knobs of the day.
The solenoid is strange though, with the shield. Note the Chrome tape in the bottom of the box.
Next came the CHROME Buttons with a small Hurst Decal & a Small cadmium/phosphate solenoid with side inlet/outlet. Circa 1967-70. These came with Chrome tape to wrap the switch wires to the Chrome Handles..
LINE LOC / ROLL CONTROL Era;
The Yenko Nova has a release date of 71-72 style kit with a Black Button (stubby) with (Hurst Decal). This style had the longest run, through late 70's.
Some Late 70's - mid 80's had a longer solenoid and a thin black switch marketed in a new style Black/Red/Yellow Box.
ROLL CONTROL;
The newest versions have the aluminium finned heat dispators ......
Judging Points ????
Thank you for the info Day 2. I did know mine was a 70-71 issue as we tried to get it as close to the cars delivery date. Had no idea that made them that early.
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 03:54 PM
2nd issue , era 67-70.
Some solenoids have the white HURST decal, Some have HURST Stamped into the solenoid body.. ...
I'm not sure what years had either but I'm thinking the earlier ones were stamped.
any clarification ?
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 04:08 PM
Yep,
RST,
You have an accurate period correct kit on the car.
It's the same one I used on my car.
Late 69 Z/28 circa 70-72 Day 2 Build
Tom
luzl78
12-01-2014, 08:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2nd issue , era 67-70.
Some solenoids have the white HURST decal, Some have HURST Stamped into the solenoid body.. ...
I'm not sure what years had either but I'm thinking the earlier ones were stamped.
any clarification ? </div></div>hey tom, that roll control looks familiar. Jeff in nj
slimsls6
12-01-2014, 09:28 PM
found this one in one of my cabinets. Jim
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/jim6391/IMAG1893_zpsfb717abd.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/jim6391/IMAG1892_zps69a28ecc.jpg
Ken Barnhart's said it was original to when he started racing.http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/PxTx/hurstll.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/PxTx/hurstll.jpg.html)
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/PxTx/linelock2.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/PxTx/linelock2.jpg.html)
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/PxTx/linelock1.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/PxTx/linelock1.jpg.html)
Tom, how certain are you on those dates? I thought this was the second one 67-69? The one in the box has 1971 Sears paperwork.
olredalert
12-01-2014, 10:30 PM
----Not too pertinent, but Red Alert had the line lock wires plumbed into the horn buttons! Worked awesome, and was kind of stealth,,,if anything about "Red A" can be considered stealth.......Bill S
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 10:58 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2nd issue , era 67-70.
Some solenoids have the white HURST decal, Some have HURST Stamped into the solenoid body.. ...
I'm not sure what years had either but I'm thinking the earlier ones were stamped.
any clarification ? </div></div>hey tom, that roll control looks familiar. Jeff in nj</div></div>
"Poetic License" not plagiarism. no royalties either. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/JeffSucksToo.gif
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 11:14 PM
Nothing confirmed in Iron !
Keep in mind the various suppliers, vendors and retailers, wholesale houses, using "Era" as a guide and issued years is purely hypothetical as we see here with receipts, dates and pics of various items.. Some inventory takes months, years to sell.
Thank sYc for having an open forum for any and all to contribute.
These Day 2 Parts are a specialized area that needs more input and insight......some of us really want the era, year, month pieces on our cars or displays.
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 11:29 PM
Paul,
yours looks like the second issue box with chrome switch ...
the solenoid is similar to the 65 issue,
I've had both styles of white boxes with different solenoids and switches.
I also have had newer black boxes with 'old contents'.
Stahl, Moroso, Lakewood & Hurst shared & infringed on each others suppleriers too. You'll see that with Mr.Gasket stuff too......Some items look "repackaged" or Reboxed.
Sal Biondo has a Roll Control/line loc solenoid on today's market that's similar to 30-40 year old ones.
Sometimes we need to use a rule of thumb ,seat of our pants as a guide.
Day2_69Z
12-01-2014, 11:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By:
[email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And I can't get $425.00 for something that will really improve your survivor or high dollar frame offed resto?
Geeze!</div></div>
Sam
you can't smoke the tires with those caps But you surely CAN with a Vintage Line Loc !
Tom
Hey guys, got a call tonight about a barn in Quakertown which hosted a bunch of Hurst stuff for years. A box of paperwork with some of my Father-in-law's stationary, memo notes etc was uncovered. The guy is reuniting it with Wayne. I suspect we'll be seeing some of this stuff for sale on the net soon.
I asked Wayne to see if he runs accross anything to help us date these line locs and stuff. We'll see!
Day2_69Z
12-02-2014, 12:34 AM
My collection drawer and cabinet just got bigger.....some of that stuff and paperwork needs to be in Western Pa.
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Paul,
seriously, I could use a few more pieces for my car & display,,, not to re-sell.
Tom
I'm anxious to see what turns up too. We'll see...
RPOL88
12-03-2014, 02:37 AM
Another style? Red button instructions dated 1968 and 1969. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19209-p1010001.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19210-p1010002.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19211-p1010003.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19212-p1010004.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19213-p1010005.jpg
ss427copo
12-03-2014, 03:07 AM
Mine still works perfectly after 35 years! Same as the one in the box for sale on eBay.
Salvatore
12-03-2014, 03:21 AM
that is because you are the only one that still try's his out with no mercy. HA!
Day2_69Z
12-03-2014, 05:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOL88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another style? Red button instructions dated 1968 and 1969.
*****This is a newer box....note the Hurst Shifter logo. ..80'-90's . Is the switch long and thin or more stubby ?
Decal on it to match the 'new style logo' ? The paper work has been used, re-used , duplicated because of the © of HURST Print since '69.
I Sold a nearly identical box, instructions & kit some months ago from this site to a member. It had the same switch in red.*****
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19209-p1010001.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19210-p1010002.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19211-p1010003.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19212-p1010004.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/12/full-4218-19213-p1010005.jpg
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cook_dw
12-03-2014, 12:46 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-O...499&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vntg-Hurst-New-Old-Stock-Line-Loc-NIB-1965-Gasser-Hot-Street-Rat-Rod-NOS-Shifter-/361134568601?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &hash=item54154c3499&vxp=mtr)
When was the last time you saw this? Vintage Hurst
Dave
67 Nova Boy </div></div>
I saw it just this am in my 1970 Deuce Yenko <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/11/full-18271-19098-1970_fb_deuce_line_lock.jpg
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Where did you get your blue shifter ball??
67 Nova Boy
12-03-2014, 01:11 PM
eBay...they pop up allot there. Vintage ones have the "cast" line around the middle. Like a small ridge around the center.
Dave
67 Nova Boy
RPOL88
12-03-2014, 10:17 PM
Thank you for posting. I've had it about 12 years and always thought it was older. Now that I dug it out and took some pic's maybe I'll see if they like it on ebay. Tom.
I think the black box with the orange and yellow stripes is older too. When I bought my line lock in 1992 it was the newer aluminum finned job is a different style box.
That black with red/orange/yellow was all the rage in the mid 1970's. There were lots of cars carrying that theme then. I would have bet 1975 for a rough date.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/_3-14_zpss7aqym74.jpeg
Day2_69Z
12-04-2014, 02:06 AM
Paul,,,
Its the Hurst Shifter design that gives it away.... the triangle pointed shifter was first used in the early 80's.
Tom, what are you thinking as a selling price on your kit ?
Thanks for pointing that our Tom. I was a bit thick headed, but I'm sure I ain't alone. Got it now and here is where the ads started to change with the newer logo.
Here is a 1981 Ad:
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Hurst/_57_zpsee0c56f1.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Hurst/_57_zpsee0c56f1.jpg.html)
And here is a 1982 Ad:
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Hurst/hrdp_1010_08_omore_hot_rods_past_feature_cover_car sdoug_barnes_1967_chevy_nova_zps1cf3cefa.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Hurst/hrdp_1010_08_omore_hot_rods_past_feature_cover_car sdoug_barnes_1967_chevy_nova_zps1cf3cefa.jpg.html)
Cheers to you Tom!
Day2_69Z
12-04-2014, 04:56 AM
Hey,
I heard Perry Mason is coming back on cable as a new series, they need a
"Paul" Drake Detective Agency.
Any chance you can fit it in your schedule ?
lmao..
They don't call me Day 2 for nothing.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif
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