1967 L35 SMOG question

[427TJ]

Would the (California cars) SMOG equipment, hoses, brackets, etc. be the same for all '67 L35s (396/325) regardless of application? Seems to me it would not be car specific but rather engine specific. Anyone know?

[427TJ]

Stumper?

My buddy just bought an untouched '67 Impala SS L35/Th400, all the SMOG, carb, air cleaner, everything intact, and I want the SMOG for my '67 L35/Th400 Camaro.

[Xplantdad]

I thought that the smog that you need comes from the Corvettes...not the big cars...which is why it's so damn expensive! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[427TJ]

&quot;I need a part for a 1972 Monte Carlo.&quot;
&quot;Here ya go.&quot;
&quot;How come it's so expensive?&quot;
&quot;Because it's for a Corvette.&quot;
&quot;But I have a '72 Monte Carlo.&quot;
&quot;It's for a Corvette.&quot;
&quot;Do you have one for a Monte Carlo that isn't so expensive?&quot;
&quot;It fits on Corvettes.&quot;
&quot;Nevermind.&quot;

[Xplantdad]

LOL...

Some old info here...

http://www.camaros.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-50358.html

[Tarrytown SS427s]

I just paid good money for a smog system for my 68 Impala because as he said &quot;It fits on Camaros and Chevelles&quot;. The irony is that a Camaro guy raped it off of an untouched 68 Impala back in the 80s to use on a Camaro.

[427TJ]

Those damn Camaro guys!

Good info Bruce, thanks!

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stumper?

My buddy just bought an untouched '67 Impala SS L35/Th400, all the SMOG, carb, air cleaner, everything intact, and I want the SMOG for my '67 L35/Th400 Camaro. </div></div>

By the way Steve, my buddy bought just the engine, not a whole car. Seller had the engine, untouched right down to the old AC spark plugs and big chrome-lid single snorkel air cleaner, sitting in a corner of his shop for decades and my buddy bought it for a build and doesn't need the smog system. Seller sold off the Impala long ago.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

Sounds like a nice find!!

[travlnz28]

Here's my California Camaro

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20527-p1020546.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20528-p1020547.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20529-p1020548.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20531-p1020549.jpg

[Xplantdad]

That's cool as heck! It would be neat get the part numbers off of all the main parts <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[hiperf406]

If you need smog equipment I have used Bill Hodel for my LS6 &amp; he is the guy for smog equipment. He refinishes original equipment &amp; is very nice. You can find info on him n Hemmings under services.

[olredalert]

----I have known Bill for 30 some years and he is the best......Bill S

[427TJ]

Thanks Gregg for the photos of your Camaro smog setup. I'll check Hemmings for Bill Hodel as well. Thanks for that too.

[travlnz28]

Like Bruce suggested if you need any part numbers let me know and I'll see what I can get

[Xplantdad]

Gregg, If you can get them...please let me know. I know that my brothers is only missing a few parts <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[427TJ]

I decided to trade my buddy for that complete '67 Impala L35 with the untouched smog system. I told him not to touch it! My 396 needs a rebuild so having the smog setup is a big step in putting things right* under the hood.

*I am of the mindset, after reading replies and looking over that Impala setup that the smog system is, for all intents and purposes, exactly the same as a Camaro's. I seriously doubt that GM would spend the money to have different smog bits/brackets for each '67 L35 application. Is that fair to assume?

[Tarrytown SS427s]

I think you're probably correct about this, though I don't know much about the 66-67 systems like I do 68. I can't think of any reason why they would have to be different between the two vehicles. Could you post some detail pictures of the engine assembly for reference purposes? Also, a picture of the engine stamp pad would be great if possible.

[Kurt S]

Time to study some parts books....

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you're probably correct about this, though I don't know much about the 66-67 systems like I do 68. I can't think of any reason why they would have to be different between the two vehicles. Could you post some detail pictures of the engine assembly for reference purposes? Also, a picture of the engine stamp pad would be great if possible. </div></div>

I told my buddy not to so much as remove the air cleaner before I can photo-document the whole engine. I'll have him send a pic of the pad.

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Time to study some parts books.... </div></div>

Oh good! Kurt's on the case!

[427TJ]

My buddy snapped some iPhone pics. I lightened them up a little to reveal more detail.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20A_zpscdzwfchz.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20A_zpscdzwfchz.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20B_zps8zn9d5dk.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20B_zps8zn9d5dk.jpg.html)

Two elbows in the air cleaner base, one to the valve cover and the other to the center hose from the back of the smog pump. Open element CA-smog air cleaner bases have two elbows as well:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%204_zpsbhd9av3n.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%204_zpsbhd9av3n.jpg.html)

Gray plastic doohickey was installed 35 years ago when original car, the Impala, was smogged for annual tags:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%202_zps401fkcn6.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%202_zps401fkcn6.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%205_zps2ait07ez.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%205_zps2ait07ez.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%201_zpsqrb9la8d.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%201_zpsqrb9la8d.jpg.html)

Power steering pump unbolted:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%203_zpsetfku9go.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%203_zpsetfku9go.jpg.html)

Back of smog pump:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%206_zpsme3x1ehp.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%206_zpsme3x1ehp.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%207_zpsj2uvdoyt.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%207_zpsj2uvdoyt.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Pad_zps1uvdspcv.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Pad_zps1uvdspcv.jpg.html)

[427TJ]

Brackets:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AA_zpsh0l0db7y.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AA_zpsh0l0db7y.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AC_zpseggb75za.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AC_zpseggb75za.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AB_zpsty2qwep2.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20AB_zpsty2qwep2.jpg.html)

[427TJ]

What could this bracket be for?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Bracket_zpshx7myek2.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Bracket_zpshx7myek2.jpg.html)

[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: travlnz28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's my California Camaro

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20527-p1020546.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20528-p1020547.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20529-p1020548.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/01/full-5192-20531-p1020549.jpg
</div></div>

I notice different pump mounting bracket, maybe different pump with only one hose connection on the back that goes to the air cleaner base, pass side AIR hose routes under pump and seems to connect to driver side AIR assembly.

[Kurt S]

It looks to have the correct RH valve cover.
http://www.camaros.org/engine.shtml#bbcover

[427TJ]

Yes, it has that cradle bracket for the smog hose (that goes to the back of the carb) to rest on.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20VC%20Bracket_zps2bhuugbl.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20VC%20Bracket_zps2bhuugbl.jpg.html)

[427TJ]

Choke and behind the carb:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Choke_zpsj3knhfmr.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Choke_zpsj3knhfmr.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%203_zpsgf7uaz2i.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%203_zpsgf7uaz2i.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%202_zpstjpx6c6y.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%202_zpstjpx6c6y.jpg.html)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%201_zpsllftme8i.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/67%20396%20Back%201_zpsllftme8i.jpg.html)

Yeah, it isn't L78 or L72 cool but I'm digging it.

[427TJ]

Another friend of mine shot this '67 RS/SS L35 at a show last summer. Looks like travlnz28's '67 setup. Maybe they are different between Camaros and Impalas?

This guy's setup is way out from the valve covers. Pass side hose seems to route to the bottom of the pump. Driver side hose routes to pump but I can't tell how it connects.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/My%2067%20Camaro/1967%20Camaro%20L35%20Restored_zpsejbjmmd3.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/BE427TJ/media/My%2067%20Camaro/1967%20Camaro%20L35%20Restored_zpsejbjmmd3.jpg.htm l)

[Tarrytown SS427s]

Thanks for the excellent pictures! Looks like it was from a South Gate car, and whomever stamped the vin wasn't concerned with going over the N on the suffix! I'll take a look through my library of pictures and see if between that and parts books we can figure out if the Camaros and Impalas shared any of the smog stuff.

[427TJ]

From what I'm seeing on the Google, the Impala pump on my buddy's old Impala L35 engine is the same as a '67 L78 Camaro pump. Same hose connections, all three hoses, on the back of the pump. Z/28 too. L35 seems to have the two hoses from the AIR pipes on the exhaust manifolds connecting to the bottom of the smog pump. '67 assembly manual shows this too--the L78 and Z using the same pump connections as on the old Impala engine but the L35 having two of the connections on the bottom of the pump. A pump for sale on Heartbeat City for '67 Camaro L35 shows the connections on the bottom also.