MCACN 2015 REAL 409's wanted for Special Display.

[bashton]

Knowing how scarce real 409 cars are, we would like to extend the invitation to owners of real-deal 409 cars to join us for a very special gathering at the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals show this year. We have enlisted the help of Verne Frantz, who is recognized as an authority on these cars.

To quote Verne from his previous post;

<span style="font-style: italic">I am already on the quest. I'd like to see this become the most prestigious gathering of REAL 409 cars that has ever been put together. There are thousands of 409 cars out there since the last 20 years or so but you can count the real ones without using up all your fingers and toes.</span>

We would really like to see one of each horsepower, so that would be 1 ’61, 2 ‘62s, 3 ‘63s, 3 ’64s and 2 ‘65s.

Let's make it happen and make some more history! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[bashton]

We are always up for a challenge, and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other. Who would have thought that we would be able to lineup over 60 Yenko's, 40+ Aero Cars, 6 of the 8 Trans Am convertobles, over a dozen Baldwin-Motion cars, or this year, nearly 20 very real 426 Hemi Mopar E-body convertibles?

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[RPOLS3]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing.

[bashton]

We're off and running, with our first <span style="font-style: italic">Official</span> entry for this very special display. Thanks go out to the Dykstra family for making the commitment to show their gorgeous and very real 1962 409 Impala, and kicking this one into gear!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing. </div></div>

Thanks Jake. Word-of-mouth is without a doubt our best source of advertising, especially from respected members of the hobby like you and your Dad. Realistically, I can go on and on to those who have not yet joined us, (as I often do!) but I know it can come off as some typical promoter spewing the typical B.S.

<span style="font-style: italic">For all who have been at the show and believe in what we are doing, please help us spread the word!</span>

THANKS!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[Verne_Frantz]

One down............11 to go. My work has just begun. It's the best job I've ever had in the last 20 years (except for judging in Vintage Certification last year) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[dykstra]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and that is what makes the MCACN show a show unlike any other.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

After the first show I wondered how anything could ever top it, then said the same thing after the second, and the third, and the fourth,...........you get the picture. If there is still anyone who has not attended this show you have no idea what you are missing. </div></div>

AGREED!!!!

[Verne_Frantz]

I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[RPOLS3]

I'd love to see the black/red 63 425 Horse car that TimG recently sold. That car had it all - born with drivetrain, 4.56 rear, great colors, and some race history.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div>

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[bigjake]

WOW! What a lineup. Can't wait to see this happen.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Are you going after any aluminum front end cars?

Zintmaster? (spelling?)

Ryan

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going after any aluminum front end cars?

Zintmaster? (spelling?)

Ryan </div></div>

Other than a Z-11, I'm not sure. We'll see how things shape up over time. I know it's a very significant car and sure to be a crowd pleaser.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Belair62]

Do I have to wash it ?

[sixtiesmuscle]

All '64, 409/425, original paint, post cars qualify for a free detail.

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to wash it ? </div></div>

....... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[chevyman0429]

I absolutely love the old post 409s and 427 Bel airs <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

Are there any Canadian Pontiac factory 409 cars booked yet?
Again as I've mentioned here before, all available info indicates W-motor vehicle assembly continued in Canada after the Jan/65 change to MK1V's in the USA also that THE LAST 409 passenger vehicle built was a Canadian '65 Pontiac.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Belair62]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All '64, 409/425, original paint, post cars qualify for a free detail. </div></div>

Cant remove the patina , the original Pall Mall butts or the mouse crap.

[sixtiesmuscle]

Guaranteed Bob. Now, who wants to weigh in and vote so they can see Bob's rare &amp; unbelievable 409?

[Xplantdad]

I vote for it to be there...But Bob has to be there, too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[m22mike]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I vote for it to be there...But Bob has to be there, too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Yea, git that POS to the show so I can finally meet the infamous Gags... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I'll vote for this!!

Looking forward to meeting and checking out your ol car!!

Ryan

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to wash it ? </div></div>

No...we'll get Sixtiesmuscle to handle that for you.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Oh and another thing...I need some help parking cars! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[ORIGLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guaranteed Bob. Now, who wants to weigh in and vote so they can see Bob's rare &amp; unbelievable 409? </div></div>

In true Chicago fashion, I intend to vote &quot;Early &amp; Often&quot;!!!

AND, ........... I volunteer for cleaning detail! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[firstgenaddict]

This car is original owner, 1 repaint, original paint in the jambs trunk etc and original interior as well as vtop.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pe_Tc0qVhio/VEhpdQKuWYI/AAAAAAAAKas/QfvOER7_57M/w518-h776-no/Atlanta_Gasser_Drags%2B045.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N21HB3xvmZo/VEhpSTbHHLI/AAAAAAAAKYE/fOwgGWpdjkA/w1164-h776-no/Atlanta_Gasser_Drags%2B024.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9wkn0xnY3Vo/VEhpbiQaJ0I/AAAAAAAAKaM/mKd7RIGhmnI/w518-h776-no/Atlanta_Gasser_Drags%2B041.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BbT8cpEUpSg/VEhpfaR5EiI/AAAAAAAAKbE/VlK_nRYWGec/w1164-h776-no/Atlanta_Gasser_Drags%2B048.JPG

[bashton]

Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[markjohnson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

This is the one I was hoping for!

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pleased to announce Mr. Piscitello will be joining us with his 1962 original, unrestored 409/380 Bel Air. This beautiful black red interior car is without a doubt one of, if not the, finest unrestored example in existence.

Whew!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

This is the one I was hoping for! </div></div>

Agreed...what a cool ride! Click Here for the Members Ride! (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/235199/chris-piscitello-sir-vivor-s-6#Post235199)

[old5.0]

Oh Lord, now a 409 display? You're making missing these shows harder and harder....

[bashton]

Since we really like unearthing the <span style="font-style: italic">real oddities</span>, (like the 4-door '66 Hemi Coronet last year!) does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...

If so, please let me know; [email protected]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[chadk]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since we really like unearthing the <span style="font-style: italic">real oddities</span>, (like the 4-door '66 Hemi Coronet last year!) does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...

If so, please let me know; [email protected]

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

Here is a real oddity, a QB 409 turned into a V4 for a midget sprint car. Unfortunately it was never finished.
Chad
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q707/CTK1968/cars/engines/DSCN4533_zps3c2a6840.jpg (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/CTK1968/media/cars/engines/DSCN4533_zps3c2a6840.jpg.html)
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q707/CTK1968/cars/engines/DSCN4537_zps353d736b.jpg (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/CTK1968/media/cars/engines/DSCN4537_zps353d736b.jpg.html)
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q707/CTK1968/cars/engines/DSCN4540_zps1844334e.jpg (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/CTK1968/media/cars/engines/DSCN4540_zps1844334e.jpg.html)
http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q707/CTK1968/cars/engines/DSCN4535_zpse1e8a109.jpg (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/CTK1968/media/cars/engines/DSCN4535_zpse1e8a109.jpg.html)

[PeteLeathersac]

That V4 is pretty neat, any idea what the ignition plan was?
There's a few factory 409 Wagons out there, here's a link to a cool 4-Spd up here in Canada...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1963parisiennesafari409.html

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> does anyone know of any <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> 409 Wagons? I am sure they made at least a few...
</div></div>

Last one I saw was a red 65 09 wagon about 40 years ago. It was at a local bone yard. Likely been recycled into Toyotas several times over by now.

[chadk]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That V4 is pretty neat, any idea what the ignition plan was?
There's a few factory 409 Wagons out there, here's a link to a cool 4-Spd up here in Canada...
http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/my1963parisiennesafari409.html

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete


</div></div>

Pete, the ignition was going to be crank trigger.

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div>

[tom406]

Does anybody know where Frank Spittle's 1964 409/425hp 4 speed wagon ended up? I would love to see that one up close and personal.

[old5.0]

There was a long thread over on Chevy Talk about a 62 409/409 wagon sitting in the woods. Used as a tow car back in the day for the 63 Max Wedge Plymouth that was also parked in the woods.

[tom406]

Its still in process (lotsa work and donor metal) but that would be a helluva car to see as well

[markjohnson]

As incredible as that 409/409 wagon was, the other car that was sitting next to it in those woods was pretty spectacular also.

[Verne_Frantz]

Bob,

I know of a few 409 wagons. One is changing hands and needs the restoration completed. That's a possible depending on how much time the job takes. One is a '64 T.I car that needs it all. I know of another '64 auto car that is all done but I've lost track of it.
I'm back on my legs (all 6 of them counting the walker) so I'll start to make more contacts.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Belair62]

Verne, check off #10 on your list. BUT, you and Mike have to wear t-shirts with a pack of marlboros rolled up in the sleeve and sit on the front fender and smoke. And if Lillard comes anywhere near my car with a bag of hamburgers shits gonna get real.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Belair62/imagejpg1_zps3af0ab7e.jpg

[Postsedan]

Way to Go - Gags <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

YOU JUST MADE THE 2015 MCACN's .....that much better <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[ORIGLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, check off #10 on your list. BUT, you and Mike have to wear t-shirts with a pack of marlboros rolled up in the sleeve and sit on the front fender and smoke. </div></div>

YIPPEE!!! And I'll furnish a 12 pack of PBR! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[sixtiesmuscle]

This is one of the coolest 409 cars I've ever seen. Low miles, original paint with just the right amount of patina, and a genuine factory hot rod. Bob was hesitant because he has always considered it just a cruise night car that he drives all Summer. This is a great addition to what is shaping up as a highlight of the show, and I think the crowds will agree. Thanks Bob, and nice going Verne.

[Xplantdad]

Way cool!

[Verne_Frantz]

Thanks Bob. I was getting tired of twisting your arm. See if you can turn up a correct replacement mirror.

The neat thing about Bob's car is that it has some unique features that only REAL 409 cars have and that most people are not aware of. Make sure and ask Bob or myself to point them out to you.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm going to take Dan's PostSedan list idea and post this wanted list for the roster of real 409 cars needed.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp (registered)
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp (registered)
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div> </div></div>

Two more off the list. Unless someone else lets the cat out of the bag, I'd prefer to keep some of them as surprises. I will note that the Z-11 is an unlettered car, displayed just as it was delivered to the dealer. It also has it's <span style="font-weight: bold">original</span> engine. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[The Dude]

Local guy, cant remember his name. He had his 63 Pontiac at MCACN two years ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/other/chicken409_zpskpn9bsda.jpg

[Belair62]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Bob. I was getting tired of twisting your arm. See if you can turn up a correct replacement mirror.

The neat thing about Bob's car is that it has some unique features that only REAL 409 cars have and that most people are not aware of. Make sure and ask Bob or myself to point them out to you.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

What do you mean Verne its the original remote mirror on the car. Had to replace mirror head glass.

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Bob. I was getting tired of twisting your arm. See if you can turn up a correct replacement mirror.

The neat thing about Bob's car is that it has some unique features that only REAL 409 cars have and that most people are not aware of. Make sure and ask Bob or myself to point them out to you.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

What do you mean Verne its the original remote mirror on the car. Had to replace mirror head glass. </div></div>

I thought the mirror head was broken. Very rare option to find on an otherwise optionless hi-perf 409 car.
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[sixtiesmuscle]

Verne, everything about Bob and his car is unique.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, everything about Bob and his car is unique. </div></div>

X2 <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

Dan

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixtiesmuscle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, everything about Bob and his car is unique. </div></div>

Sometimes I need to be reminded of things that are obvious to others. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, check off #10 on your list. BUT, you and Mike have to wear t-shirts with a pack of marlboros rolled up in the sleeve and sit on the front fender and smoke. And if Lillard comes anywhere near my car with a bag of hamburgers shits gonna get real.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Belair62/imagejpg1_zps3af0ab7e.jpg </div></div>

Gee...only took seven years of badgering to get this bum, (cough-cough) I mean fine Gentleman to join us with a car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[firstgenaddict]

Our family's Chevrolet Dealership &quot;Cook Chevrolet Oldsmobile&quot; in Bristol NH sold a Black 1962 409 4spd Wagon to the local funeral home, family was trying to keep the 19-20 year old son in the business and allowed him to order the new passenger wagon for the home no restrictions other than black on black. When he started in on ordering the 409 4spd my uncle called the funeral home and they said he can order whatever his heart desires as long as it's solid black. Wonder if the car is still around?

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/02/full-23-21769-vettefest_2003_073.jpg

[Postsedan]

Oh man.....I remember this <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

DON'T mess with GAGs <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

Dan

[Charley Lillard]

He can't stay with his car all weekend...

[Belair62]

And you are too old to run with your walker jackass

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And you are too old to run with your walker jackass </div></div>

Ah....just like the good old days.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And you are too old to run with your walker jackass </div></div>

Sounds like a challenge to me... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Where's the closest place to the convention center where you can buy a Happy Meal?

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where's the closest place to the convention center where you can buy a Happy Meal?

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif </div></div>

Walking distance <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Dan

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And you are too old to run with your walker jackass </div></div>

Ah....just like the good old days.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

So true.....and refreshing <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[Belair62]

Verne, you and Charley can get Depends real close by too. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/CharleySucks.gif

[Postsedan]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

Dan

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, you and Charley can get Depends real close by too. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/CharleySucks.gif </div></div>

Bob, Some errors have been found on your registration. In order to accept your car as a real 409 car you will need to provide the following information:
1 An xray of the muffler
2 A photo of the pilot bearing in the rear of the crankshaft
3 An analysis of the oil in the transmission
4 And a photocopy of the water pump impeller.

We hope this doesn't inconvenience you.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[Xplantdad]

And...Verne needs 3 copies of each...overnighted to him in Yugoslavia!

[Belair62]

Verne I sent all that to you. It was in a zip lock bag and was brown in color.

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne I sent all that to you. It was in a zip lock bag and was brown in color. </div></div>

I'll make sure it's displayed with the car......

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[bashton]

In my very best George Takai voice; <span style="font-style: italic">oh my....</span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[SS427]

Vern, Bob Marvin from Warroad, MN has a museum called &quot;The Shed&quot;. In it is has a supposed real Nassau Blue/Blue 1962 SS409/409 convertible. Might be worth checking into.
Rick

[markjohnson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vern, Bob Marvin from Warroad, MN has a museum called &quot;The Shed&quot;. In it is has a supposed real Nassau Blue/Blue 1962 SS409/409 convertible. Might be worth checking into.
Rick </div></div>

IF that's the car with plastic seat covers and 7,500 original miles, that's a hell of a car.

[Verne_Frantz]

Jake's '62 2x4 car was the first one registered so that slot is taken up. I could use help finding 400hp cars though. I'm also having a hard time finding a 340hp '65. Any leads would be appreciated.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

The roster is now open to more than one of each year/horsepower, providing the second car is significantly different from the first one. Meaning no two cars of the same body style or color.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

One more added to the list. Original driveline 425hp '63 convertible.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp (registered)
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp (registered)
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp (registered)
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp


Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another one added to the list. Original driveline 409hp '62 Biscayne 2dr Sedan.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)(#2 registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp (registered)
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp (registered)
8. 1964: 409 340hp
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp (registered)
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp


Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div>

[Postsedan]

You`re doing a great job Verne.....it`s a lot of work....but very rewarding.

Keep it going.

Dan

[Verne_Frantz]

I think we're about at the 60ft mark now and about dead even. Powershift, here we go....

The most satisfying part of this search is finding real cars that I didn't already know about. Most of the cars signed up so far are ones I've already doc'd and know they're real.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here we go again. '64 SS Sport Coupe 340hp in beautiful Satin Silver with black vinyl top.

1. 1961: 409 360hp
2. 1962: 409 380hp (registered)
3. 1962: 409 409hp (registered)(#2 registered)
4. 1963: 409 340hp
5. 1963: 409 400hp
6. 1963: 409 425hp (registered)
7. 1963: 409/427 430hp (registered)
8. 1964: 409 340hp (registered)
9. 1964: 409 400hp
10.1964: 409 425hp (registered)
11.1965: 409 340hp
12.1965: 409 400hp


Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div> </div></div>

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think we're about at the 60ft mark now and about dead even. Powershift, here we go....

The most satisfying part of this search is finding real cars that I didn't already know about. Most of the cars signed up so far are ones I've already doc'd and know they're real.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

I agree Verne - very rewarding meeting new good car guys that loves these old clunkers as much as we do - Priceless <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[bashton]

Still searching for the elusive (and real!) 1961 and 1965 409's!

C'mon...we know you're out there. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[RPOLS3]

I posted this up on the 348-409 site with a link back here.

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RPOLS3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted this up on the 348-409 site with a link back here. </div></div>

Thanks Jake! We appreciate you helping us spread the word.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[Verne_Frantz]

Still working on it Bob, but I just got out of an 8 day stay in the hospital. (not to mention the 10 day stay I had in Feb.)To say that I am behind on things is a major understatement.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still working on it Bob, but I just got out of an 8 day stay in the hospital. (not to mention the 10 day stay I had in Feb.)To say that I am behind on things is a major understatement.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif </div></div>

Not to worry, Verne, what you have assembled already makes for an outstanding display, and we have about six months to go! Concentrate on getting back to 100%, as we have a great crew to assist wherever needed!

I know we share the desire to have at least one of each year represented, and I am confident that it will happen.

Bashton

[mockingbird812]

Yeah Verne, get better............NOW!!!!!!!

[bashton]

We are still hoping to add a 1961 and a 1965 to the mix, so if you own or know of any, please let us know!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[Verne_Frantz]

Yes, it's getting late. I need to make some more phone calls. The real ones are hard to find.

Verne

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, it's getting late. I need to make some more phone calls. The real ones are hard to find.

Verne </div></div>

Yep, especially the real ones that are really real! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Bashton

[Verne_Frantz]

I'm on it so I don't have to bow my head in shame over missing ones. IT's up to the owners though, no matter what I do.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

I appreciate your comments Bob. Yes, we are on the same page regarding REAL cars. It will be my pleasure to be surrounded by real ones rather than clones that I always see at other &quot;typical&quot; shows.
I especially want all the spectators to know they're looking at cars that tell no lies.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[ORIGLS6]

Verne,
PM &amp; email sent your way.

[Verne_Frantz]

Thanks. I replied. Waiting with Mylanta.

[Verne_Frantz]

Here is our final list for the 409 display. All REAL cars.

'62 Belair Sport Coupe, black unrestored, 380hp Chris Piscitello
'62 Impala SS Coupe, Blue, an old warrior, 409hp, Jake Dykstra
'62 Biscayne Sedan, red, restored, 409hp, Mick Price
'63 Impala convertible, aqua unrestored, 425hp, Charlie Lombardi
'63 Z-11, white restored, 430hp, anonymous owner
'64 Impala SS, silver restored, 340hp, Stan Robbins
'64 Belair Sedan, blue, an old warrior, 425hp, Bob Gagliano

Stop by and say hello!
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

[Xplantdad]

Cool stuff Verne!

[bashton]

And here is an update;

We have secured an elusive and <span style="font-style: italic">very real</span> 1965 409 hardtop, thanks to Dennis Albaugh and our good friend Andy!

So there you have it, and even eight from 1962-1965. Now that will tell quite a story.

Bashton

[Verne_Frantz]

That's last minute good and surprising news. I thought the spots were all FULL weeks ago. I can't wait to go over it.

Verne

[bashton]

When at the MCACN show, if you need to stash your coats, coolers, parts, lunch or anything else, just toss it in the blue '64 that will be in this display. There will also be day-care available in the same area.

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif

Bashton

[Belair62]

Oh a wise guy ! Im opening my headers for the move in. Locking the car during the whole show too. I will have a Louisville Slugger for all you fellows who get adventurous with your McDonalds cups too Lillard.

[Postsedan]

Ha <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

I was ready for a response like that.....let's see who will be the first to post a picture of the Good Old Days of the Bel Air being tampered by Mr. Lillard.

Dan

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34187-62belairmonk.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34189-vettefest_2003_073.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Arrggh those faces are horrific........top photo ain't too sweet either! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif

[Postsedan]

Perfect.....That was a fun weekend.

Dan

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34189-vettefest_2003_073.jpg
</div></div>

Now this shot epitomizes exactly what the MCACN show is all about! Are we having fun yet?

Bashton

[Belair62]

I still laugh out loud when I see this one. I think there was one with cows too.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34187-62belairmonk.jpg
</div></div>

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I still laugh out loud when I see this one. I think there was one with cows too.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34187-62belairmonk.jpg
</div></div> </div></div>

Not to worry...the <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif furry folks <span style="font-style: italic">will not</span> be in the building, or in the Rosemont area at all next weekend!

Bashton

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh a wise guy ! Im opening my headers for the move in. Locking the car during the whole show too. I will have a Louisville Slugger for all you fellows who get adventurous with your McDonalds cups too Lillard. </div></div>

Hey Bob,
Think of the opportunity this show is offering you. You actually get to take the car out and <span style="font-style: italic">drive</span> it next weekend! You won't need to clean the rear tires off when you get there either.

And don't worry, I'll guard your '64 from those pesky thugs while you're not there.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh a wise guy ! Im opening my headers for the move in. Locking the car during the whole show too. I will have a Louisville Slugger for all you fellows who get adventurous with your McDonalds cups too Lillard. </div></div>

Hey Bob,
Think of the opportunity this show is offering you. You actually get to take the car out and <span style="font-style: italic">drive</span> it next weekend! You won't need to clean the rear tires off when you get there either.

And don't worry, I'll guard your '64 from those pesky thugs while you're not there.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Indeed, and I am sure the Bob you are referring to is me, since in the fine print there is a paragraph about a certain Bob being authorized to use any car within a 50 mile radius for any purpose at any time from November 19-23. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

Bashton

[Verne_Frantz]

I wish my name was Bob................ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[Belair62]

Verne ! I am going to show up in my 61 Bonneville Safari. It has heat. No one at the door will ever know.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh a wise guy ! Im opening my headers for the move in. Locking the car during the whole show too. I will have a Louisville Slugger for all you fellows who get adventurous with your McDonalds cups too Lillard. </div></div>

Hey Bob,
Think of the opportunity this show is offering you. You actually get to take the car out and <span style="font-style: italic">drive</span> it next weekend! You won't need to clean the rear tires off when you get there either.

And don't worry, I'll guard your '64 from those pesky thugs while you're not there.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

[Charley Lillard]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34847-img_8691.jpg

[Xplantdad]

I heard about this taking place! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif

[Belair62]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-23-34847-img_8691.jpg
</div></div>

Jackass....and I thought the mouse poop smelled bad. How the hell do I get Lillard out of there ? Mothballs work ?

[Postsedan]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif Charley - Get`s It <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[Tommy Nolen]

I wasn't able to attend this year's show much to my disappointment, my interest lies with the early muscle cars so I was very excited about the 409 display. Tonight is the first time that I have had a chance to look at the photos from the show. Having studied the photos and remembering back that these cars had to be correct factory built 409 cars I can not help but question the 65 Impala that is shown with the group. A 65 Impala with a 425 hp engine and a/c??? Come on, Chevrolet never offered a/c with a solid lifter 409 motor and only the 340 and 400 horse engines were offered in 65. I see that the car is displayed with some paperwork which I'm not able make out but I have never seen any factory documentation that would support this equipment.

[tom406]

Tommy- 65 340hp car with 2x4s added. What it is and how it came to be included is addressed in this thread exchange:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/635477/9

[Tommy Nolen]

Tom,
Thanks for that link, I had not seen it and I kinda thought that might be the case. The display sign says &quot;1965 Impala SS 409/425 # matching engine and transmission&quot;. That sign is very mis leading, it may be a # matching 409/340 but it's not a 425. Still looks like a very nice car.

[bashton]

Indeed, the '65 in the MCACN 409 Invitational display is a<span style="font-style: italic"> very real 409 340 horsepower </span>car. The Albaugh Collection stepped up and agreed to show this car with us after numerous requests were made on several websites. It is a real beauty and it is a <span style="font-style: italic">real 409 car</span> that we were honored to have in the show to represent the 1965 model year. They don't claim that it left the assembly line as a factory built dual quad 425 horse car, and Andy was very clear in disclosing that to me.

Surprisingly, even with several known 409 experts on the hunt, nobody else replied to join us with a real 1965 409 car. We thank Andy and Dennis for stepping up in response to my personal invitation. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

Bashton

[TAR6569]

Bob, were they claiming that the documents on that display board were originals because they appear to be apart of the $1,000+ reproduction documentation package the seller in Canada used to offer. (same dealer stamp on three of the items) The window sticker stood out in particular with some things not correct.

I can't comment personally on whether the car is a real 340hp car or not without seeing it in person but the docs aren't helping IMHO.

The car look does look great regardless! Anyway could you ask them take a picture of the cowl tag and engine pad for me? I had entered this car into my list over 10 years ago but didn't note if it was a 409 for sure because I didn't have many pictures to go by including not seeing the cowl tag and engine pad numbers.

[Stefano]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-295-36257-dscn4689.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-295-36258-dscn4688.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-295-36259-dscn4691.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-295-36260-dscn4690.jpg

[Mr70]

A Bob G. sighting...nice

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Bob G. sighting...nice </div></div>

Yes, and a great sight he was...always smiling.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Bob G. sighting...nice </div></div>

Yes, and a great sight he was...always smiling.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif </div></div>

Indeed...after years of badgering and extensive peer pressure, it was an honor to have Gags join us and show his '64 409 with us.

Seriously; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

Bashton

[Verne_Frantz]

I've known Bob for many years and I leaned on him pretty hard. I was able to help him confirm it was/is a real one. I love happy endings.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif