1970 nova ss

[brent396]

http://bemidji.craigslist.org/cto/4876463709.html

[brent396]

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/4861288895.html another one

[brent396]

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/4910751950.html another

[L78steve]

Shouldn't the New Haven car have a CX or CY trans?

[Mr70]

No,CW is correct for that 375HP.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Nova #1....no such thing as a Nova big block A/C car*
*at least we have never seen one...always a first time I guess??

Nova #2...I know this car...real deal...the CW coded tranny came from me.


Nova #3...lots of little stuff not right...close to where we live if some one needs a surrogate.

CW was the proper code for the TH400 L78 application in 1970...same tranny was used in the Deuce and 70 Z28 with automatic.

Have a nice Nova Sunday...

wilma <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[L78steve]

Which auto trans. did the 70 L78 Chevelle get?

[WILMASBOYL78]

The 1970 L78 Chevelle had the CW coded unit as well.

[300deluxeL79]

&quot;if the car doesn't sell within a month i will be restoring it myself and asking 4 times the asking price!!&quot;

lol <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

[brent396]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151606319712?ssPageName

[WILMASBOYL78]

You don't see a lot of small block automatic Super Sport Novas...this one looks like a decent cruiser...certainly not a high end resto. It will be interesting to see how much it brings.

wilma

[jasonL78]

Agreed looks like a nice cruiser. It looks like most of the rubber bushings are original I see lots of cracking. Someone has done some work around trunk drop offs. But over all a nice car if you want an automatic.

[EZ Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You don't see a lot of small block automatic Super Sport Novas...this one looks like a decent cruiser...certainly not a high end resto. It will be interesting to see how much it brings.

wilma </div></div>

WHAT would some say is the &quot;going rate&quot; for a car such as the SS350 auto in that condition??? 20, 25, 30?????

[WILMASBOYL78]

Low to mid 20's would be about right...a nicely sorted out car with the right parts might be in the high 20's to $30k. Beyond that there isn't much demand for a high end restored model like this. The cost to do it right is the same as a big block car, less the driveline components..so it would be hard to justify the expense unless you owned it for very little or it was a family car with sentimental value.

This car has a lot of little stuff that needs work...under carriage seems like it was rattled can painted...but, the black paint is a plus...there aren't a lot of black 70's around. [unless you are at my house <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif]

wilma

[tom406]

I appreciate the somewhat candid description, but some folks may not really understand this statement:

&quot;#3 cylinder had to be sleeved to reuse original block. Numbers on block recorded by machine shop before doing work....&quot;

Which is &quot;Numbers on block recorded by machine shop, then wiped clean during the decking process because they couldn't be bothered to find a machine to avoid them, then carefully restamped on what is (probably/possibly/maybe) that same original block&quot;

I really like those little consoles in bucket seat Novas:) I had a '71 307/TH350 car with that setup.

[WILMASBOYL78]

I saw that part of the description as well...no doubt, the numbers were &quot;decked&quot;...not necessary if they know what their doing.

It might also be helpful to know why the engine needed a sleeve...rust? damage?...most guys didn't blow up the L48 motors, especially with an auto trans.

as for Nova consoles...they are cool, but hard to read when you're driving and the tach is also difficult to see.

I'm surprised this a no-reserve auction...that seems strange to me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

wilma

[EZ Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Low to mid 20's would be about right...a nicely sorted out car with the right parts might be in the high 20's to $30k. Beyond that there isn't much demand for a high end restored model like this. The cost to do it right is the same as a big block car, less the driveline components..so it would be hard to justify the expense unless you owned it for very little or it was a family car with sentimental value.

This car has a lot of little stuff that needs work...under carriage seems like it was rattled can painted...but, the black paint is a plus...there aren't a lot of black 70's around. [unless you are at my house <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif]

wilma </div></div>

That was my thoughts too, around the mid 20's. With l78 cars fetching 60-70 grand, I think that's about right. THANKS

[brent396]

You think there more value in a 69 ss 350 Nova vs a 70 ss 350 car

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

About the same. A lot of folks like the larger, white lenses on the '70 bumpers and the '70 tail lights. A lot of folks like the integrated engine call out / side marker lights of the '69's. Performance wise, the SB's are the same. I think there is more disparity between the '69 vs '70 BB Novas, with more favorability / value on the '69's.

[EZ Nova]

I agree with Marlin, not just because I have a BB SS '69, but I think &quot;most&quot; of the performance car world sees '69 as a pinnacle year!

1969 had:

ZL-1'S, A-12 Mopars (alum intakes), Sc Ranblers, BOSS Fords, Dodge Daytona's, SS AMX, 427 COPO cars and the list can go on.

Yes, 1970 had some high points as well, like LS-6's, but there just seemed to be the ora that '69 WAS the year for Muscle cars. I don't know, maybe the companies &quot;heard&quot; rumblings that was clamping down and just lost the drive???? I don't know, I was on 4 in 1970 LOL

[NOVAJET]

I emailed the guy with car #1 two different times to see if he could send more pictures of the car and body tag as I was curious about the BB with A/C claim. The car is somewhat close to me so I thought about maybe taking a look at it. I never got a reply either time.

[SeattleCarGuy]

I personally prefer the '69 BB Nova to the '70 for the look of the engine call outs/side marker lights and the L78 looks best with the higher rise 163 intake versus the pancake intake used on '70's. Just my opinion.

Going to see my painter again this weekend. Hoping to have my '69 L78 complete by June.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yes, the pancake intakes on the '70 BB's don't appeal to very many Nova folks.

[SeattleCarGuy]

Does anyone have any credible dyno info on what a stock '69 L78 makes versus a stock '70 L78? Someone once told me the 163 intake was good for 10-15hp over the pancake intake. But then again, the '70 would actually be a .030 overbore in stock form for 402 CID.

Seems like 10-15hp might be a stretch, but I gotta believe the 163 intake is better.

[WILMASBOYL78]

For a street driven car the difference will be minimal...last L78 we had on the dyno did north of 430hp with the flat manifold. I installed the 163 on our 70 L78 TH400 car...it looks cool, but I don't think the car is all that much faster. This article from Team Chevelle has some good info and an older thread from SYC...wilma

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227697

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=377444

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brent396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You think there more value in a 69 ss 350 Nova vs a 70 ss 350 car</div></div>

More value in a 69 no matter what the motor/trans combo is. My opinion!
On the BB intakes I would say you would not really feel it on the street.

[L78steve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a street driven car the difference will be minimal...last L78 we had on the dyno did north of 430hp with the flat manifold. I installed the 163 on our 70 L78 TH400 car...it looks cool, but I don't think the car is all that much faster. This article from Team Chevelle has some good info and an older thread from SYC...wilma

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227697

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=377444



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430HP? This must be with headers and a good exhaust system.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Yes...headers on the dyno...stock 4492 Holley, factory distributor, fresh rebuild and maybe a couple of extra cubes <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[Salvatore]

Like Tommy says headers, a curved distributor, some good Eric J. carb work and a good valve adjustment sure, why not!
That is what we did in the old days to run mid to low 12's in those L78 novas and camaros.
Add a 4.56 gear and some 7&quot; cheaters and you are golden.
Who cares what it dynos? Tha drag strip is your dyno!

[mockingbird812]

430 is good! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[earntaz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Like Tommy says headers, a curved distributor, some good Eric J. carb work and a good valve adjustment sure, why not!
That is what we did in the old days to run mid to low 12's in those L78 novas and camaros.
Add a 4.56 gear and some 7&quot; cheaters and you are golden.
Who cares what it dynos? Tha drag strip is your dyno!
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X2!!!

[Salvatore]

YEP!