View Full Version : BFG Radial TA's vs. GY Polyglas bias plys
flyingn
03-02-2015, 04:24 PM
I have a set of BFG Radial TA's on my restored 71 Torino GT and was thinking of popping for a set of Goodyear Polygas GT's in F60-15's. How bad of a decision is this? Everyone says it will handle and wander really bad as compared to the BFG's. Its going to be a show/cruise night weekend car. Give me some opinions, please
Zman1969
03-02-2015, 04:45 PM
I havent done this swap, but if you look arould I havent seen one positive post on how they ride
I love the look but between the cost(some up to 300$ a tire!)and the poor ride I just cant see doing it sure others will chime in that have driven on them
another observation is they usually take a lot of weights to balance them <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif
flyingn
03-02-2015, 04:59 PM
Actually, these firestones would be correct with my torino
https://www.cokertire.com/tires/styles/classic-70s/f60-15-firestone-wide-oval-rwl.html
anyone??
CanCOPO
03-02-2015, 05:24 PM
I had original polyglass on my SuperBee and took them off and changed to Coopers. Its much more fun. The Bee tended to float quite bad. My COPO had polyglass and it was scary. The 69 Z has BFs and handles OK but way better than the polyglass
earntaz
03-02-2015, 05:40 PM
BLUF -- a big step back in technology ... stay with the BFGs unless the vehicle is a carpet car and has to be correct.
68l30
03-02-2015, 06:07 PM
I like the way my Wide-Treds, Polyglass and Speedway Wide-Treds (nylon) track. It's the way they were meant to be driven. Traction (from a dead stop) is much better too, just ask the Pure stock and FAST guys....
If I wanted a nice safe boring ride I'd drive a Prius.
BIG
Mr.Nickey Nova
03-02-2015, 06:21 PM
I don't have any problem with the Polyglass or the Wide Ovals. The Sportcar 200's on my 69 Z suck. I guess it depends on how much you drive your car. I put a few hundred miles on each of my cars a year, so I'll put up with the ride. Plus, the older cars look so much better with the bias ply tires than the radials.
galveston
03-02-2015, 06:27 PM
If I wanted a nice safe boring ride I'd drive a Prius.
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roeville
03-02-2015, 06:36 PM
Yes, I made this exact swap (BFG's to Polyglas GT's) but I used a second set of original wheels figuring I would go back to the BFG's. I have not gone back since I made the change two years ago. To me, It was worth putting up with the tendencies of a bias-ply equipped car to have the original look. Don't get me wrong, radials are superior but I've found the car to be very drivable the way it was originally designed. I can still remember when there was no option to go to radials. - Mike
PS: Car is a 71 Z28 with manual steering
VintageMusclecar
03-02-2015, 07:26 PM
I took a set of Polyglas' (F70's and L60's) off of my `67 Chevelle and replaced them with BFG Radials on the front and M/T ET Street Radials (275/60/15) in the rear. It's definitely different, but not as much as I expected it to be.
Still can't beat the Goodyears for aesthetics. They'll be on another set of wheels for the car soon.
CC Rider
03-02-2015, 07:30 PM
My Chevelle has Polyglas tires on it. They do not react as quick to steering input as BFG's do, do not ride as smooth, and do not like hard cornering. They also follow ruts in the road. However, this is how I remember driving it, and have no problem with any of it. And I drive my Chevelle 72 miles to and from Pavilions almost every Saturday. Much of the trip is on a highway.
Polyglas tires hook better than BFG's. Can't beat the looks either.
Verne_Frantz
03-02-2015, 08:48 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69SUPERSPORT396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Polyglas tires hook better than BFG's. Can't beat the looks either.
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Maybe on dry pavement, but the original set I had on my '69 Road Runner were damn scary if there was any moisture on the road. They turned into slicks. I had to drive the car like I was driving on ice.
But I have to agree on looks. I don't know of a better looking tire.
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
stritestoration
03-02-2015, 08:58 PM
I have bias ply's on almost everything. I'll sacrifice a bit of comfort for the look anyday. I do find the goodyears seem to handle the road and ride better than the firestones.
m22mike
03-02-2015, 09:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: galveston</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If I wanted a nice safe boring ride I'd drive a Prius.
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Big, you would not fit in a Prius.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif
68l30
03-02-2015, 09:38 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif And that's just A-ok in my book! ( not that there's anything wrong with that ) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif
BIG
69 Post Sedan
03-02-2015, 11:03 PM
I used to run BF Goodrich T/A radials on a Nova I had. I did like the look but now that I see them on a lot of cars....I hate them. To me it's the easy way out. IMO
I REALLY like the correct tires on a car if that's the direction you want to go. If it's aftermarket.....make it look like you would back in the day. It's not like we put 15,000 miles on these cars a year. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif
In other words.....it will look a lot better with the correct tires with very little sacrifice. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
I'm personally running M/T bias ply ET Streets on 15X8 wheels in the back and bias ply Moroso tires on 15X4 Cragars up front. It can be a little challenging but I love the look. And......when I want to accelerate.......it HOOKS!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif
I also have a set of Mickey Thompson Indy Profile L60/14 in the rear and F70/14 up front for a different look. That combination rides/drives pretty good....better than the other set up.....it just doesn't look as mean. Although it feels like I gained 100 horsepower compared to the other setup. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif
Kurt <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
flyingn
03-02-2015, 11:24 PM
thanks for all the input..
One more opinion:
I have a set of repro Firestones on my original ralley wheels. They look good, although IMHO, the Goodyears would look even better).
They are currently bagged up while I drive around on Centerlines with BGB radials. Rides 10 times better. Handles 10x better.
My car is a nut and bolt correct resto with the exception of a few day two type mods. I have headers, aftermarket plug wires, and Koni shocks. I don't see ever having my car judged. That, and maybe a photo shoot from time to time would be the only reasons the bias plys will go back on. Well, maybe once in a while just to see how bad cars from that era drove. Frankly, I don't see how any of them got into the 14's, let alone the 13's right off the floor on those tires.
XXXGoldL34M20
03-03-2015, 03:46 AM
Every Muscle car I have owned since 1984 had the Polyglas tires on the car.
For me no other choice.
I don't care what anyone says here.
If you are a good driver and have your hand on the steering wheel, you will not have any problems.
IMO the BF T/A tires look like doo doo crap and the Poly's look like the car is finished with the right look.
It's not like you drive your toy to work and back every day. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
flyingn
03-03-2015, 03:37 PM
wow I can't believe how different everyones opinions are.
mockingbird812
03-03-2015, 03:59 PM
Have to agree with the bias ply crowd. To go a bit further, if you don't like the ride with bias plies and go the radial route, well then you have might as well modify the suspension for tighter, safer handling (why not coil overs?) and IRS will ensure safety when hitting a bump when you turn a corner, then you have to fit disc brakes all the way around to ensure stopping from 60 mph in 120 feet or less, then you have to install air bags in case you bump into something, then pretensioners on seat belts, then..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif
SS4Real
03-03-2015, 04:03 PM
This is exactly why I wish somebody would make the Goodyear Eagle ST tires again. Great looks similar to Polyglas with the benefits of the radial tires for driving. We have beautiful summers here, but studded tires are legal in the winter causing 2 deep groves in our roads that are no fun for muscle cars. Funny how many guys put Poly's on to sell the car, and the new owner takes them right off after the first drive.
m22mike
03-03-2015, 05:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow I can't believe how different everyones opinions are. </div></div>
Yep, here is yet another.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif
I have had both tires on my 69 L78 Camaro. And it was a better handling car with the radials, and I do go on the freeways some.
So a few yers ago I switched to Goodyear Widtreads. And they make the car look 100% better. It is hard to beat that OE look. The Goodyears perform well the smoother the roads are, the cornering will suffer some, and that depends on your driving.
If you go the bias ply route I do not think you will be sorry knowing going in there is going to be some handling differences, but it's not horrible.
Mike
earntaz
03-03-2015, 05:08 PM
Yep -- I'm almost 70 years old and I damn sure have no problem with "old school" vs. modern technology. Most of the arguments here are valid -- to each their own trumps all.
We won't even start on installing new LS type engines in old iron -- I know, I've probably started a $hit storm over that comment!
TAZ
mockingbird812
03-03-2015, 05:36 PM
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bashton
03-03-2015, 05:50 PM
A car of this rarity and quality deserves to have the proper bias ply tires. Let's be real...these cars rarely are driven hard and they certainly aren't known for their fine handling characteristics!
Just my personal opinion, but I really hate seeing radial tires on prime examples of 60's and early 70's muscle cars.
BTW...isn't it time for you to join us with your Torino at MCACN? I love that car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif
Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
Postsedan
03-03-2015, 05:56 PM
BTW...isn't it time for you to join us with your Torino at MCACN? I love that car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif
__________________________________________________ ___________________________
Frank,
You better open the MCACN website and begin the registration process <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
Dan
Thomas
03-03-2015, 06:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is exactly why I wish somebody would make the Goodyear Eagle ST tires again. Great looks similar to Polyglas with the benefits of the radial tires for driving. We have beautiful summers here, but studded tires are legal in the winter causing 2 deep groves in our roads that are no fun for muscle cars. Funny how many guys put Poly's on to sell the car, and the new owner takes them right off after the first drive. </div></div>
I have a set of those on my '69 L78, on a set of 5-spoke Cal Custom mags. I have had several offers to buy them.
A12pilot
03-03-2015, 11:28 PM
I would have to agree on the Bias plys being what these cars need. I have them on my A12 Bee, just put them on my 64 Corvette, and will be ordering them here shortly on my 70 T/A. Although these don't look overly bad, they just aren't correct. Every classic I had I ditched whatever radials were on there and went with the bias plys. There is no doubt the feel, quietness, and handling characteristics of radials are better than the older Bias plys, but as far as look and nostalgia? You can't beat it. Plus, it's not like you're taking flawless tires off and throwing on a set of Fred Flintstone concrete disks with wood hubs. The tires handle fine and ride nice. I'll be ordering my set of correct Bias from Rusty here shortly, but first I'm going to try my hand around an autocross with these radials before swapping them out. Why not? Might as well scuff those puppies up, Sam Posey style baby!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif
So that's my opinion. You asked. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif Well, you didn't ask me in particular. But you did pose a question on the internet which means everyone posts their opinion, and I'm an everyone, so that's my opinion! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif
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Cheers
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stritestoration
03-04-2015, 02:08 AM
I am drawn more to a car at a show with correct bias plys. It lets me assume the car is more correct and restored to a higher level.
novadude
03-04-2015, 02:55 AM
Those Eagle STs were VERY popular around our area in the late-'80s. I thought they were a good looking tire that drove well and provided reasonable life. Too bad BFG is practically the only game in town for a "classic" looking white letter radial.
Does anyone recall that there were at least two versions of the eagle ST? The mid-80s version was fiberglass belted with a white eagle head between "eagle" and "ST" and the letters were a little smaller. They became steel belted with no eagle and larger letters by the late-80s.
m22mike
03-04-2015, 10:46 AM
Yea, I remember the first design with the eagle head, and the smaller letters looked good one the muscle cars, I do not have a picture of those, maybe GTO Don has some ?
Mike
flyingn
03-04-2015, 11:06 AM
You are right. The Torino is going to shows and cruises. No long trips unless its in the trailer. Im really thinking hard about the bias plys. Id love to go to MCACN but its a heck of a trip from Jersey!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A car of this rarity and quality deserves to have the proper bias ply tires. Let's be real...these cars rarely are driven hard and they certainly aren't known for their fine handling characteristics!
Just my personal opinion, but I really hate seeing radial tires on prime examples of 60's and early 70's muscle cars.
BTW...isn't it time for you to join us with your Torino at MCACN? I love that car! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif
Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>
olredalert
03-04-2015, 01:22 PM
----The only radials I ever liked the look of are the very early T/As with the small letters. If the tire companies paid any attention to us they would duplicate the small lettering and attempt to sort of square off the shoulders of their radials. They would, at that point be at least more acceptable IMHO......Bill S
68l30
03-04-2015, 04:00 PM
I had a very early set of those Belted TA's (60 series) at one time mounted up on some XT's ...Best look for TA's IMHO!
BIG
black69
03-04-2015, 04:41 PM
If you like radials, maybe consider a better look from goodyear, based on the later 70s early 80s type white letters show here. Probably a middle ground idea, if you don't want people to frown on your car because of the ugly BFGs.
You can never beat the look of the goodyear polyglass, getting ready to order L60s for the back of my cuda convert <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif
http://www.kelseytire.com/pages/preformancetires4.html
http://www.widewhitetires.com/musclecar.html
tom406
03-04-2015, 07:40 PM
One of my daydreams has been for someone to tool up Goodyear Eagle GT repro's but substitute Polyglas/Wide Tread GT style lettering on the sidewall instead of the OWL we had in the 80's. Those tires have a good square shouldered look (better than Eagle ST's in my opinion) and would look great and drive pretty well. 80's Eagle GT sizes would work fine, 215/70/14, 215/65/15, 255/60/15, etc. This can't be too hard to pull off, since other versions tires could be sold to all the 80's restorers as well.
whitetop
03-04-2015, 07:51 PM
68130
YES BF Goodrich bias belted T/A's coolest looking tires. A friend had some on his Nova until a few years back he took them of and dumped them for new tires..L60's yet with 1/2 tread left.
danachevroletfor1967
03-04-2015, 10:47 PM
I agree with you guys that mentioned that you wish Goodyear would make a radial like the Eagle GT or ST again but with the sidewall white lettering reading Goodyear and Wide Tread GT. I would buy a set of those in an instant.
I have a question too. I currently have modern reproduction Goodyear E70-15's on my '69 Z. I like the looks of them but admittedly they don't handle or behave as well or as smoothly as the modern Goodyear Eagle GTII's I previously had on it. What are the correct alignment settings for the bias-ply tires I currently have on it now? I am thinking that the alignment should be adjusted for the bias-ply tires which was not done when I had them installed. Am I correct in this assumption? That might make the car handle a little better. Thanks guys.
camarojoe
03-04-2015, 11:12 PM
Ok, my opinion. Radials look stupid on a musclecar. Sorry, they do. BFG's, Eagle ST's, whatever... they just look wrong. I have worn out several sets of bias repro tires on several different cars. I just finished putting together a set of Wide Tread GT's because my current set is worn out, and put over 27,000 miles on a '32 highboy with repop bias ply Firestone skinnies on it for every mile. Not just sissy sunny sunday afternoon stuff either.... The car has seen rain, snow, sleet, hail, and multiple 500+ mile trips at 55-75 mph... never a problem. My only gripe is they wear out faster than a radial, but if you have a weekend cruiser they're gonna last you YEARS even if they do only get about 12,000-15,000 miles of wear out of them if you don't want to run them to the cords. I'm just getting ready to mount up my 3rd set on the hot rod. I'd never consider putting radials on it or any old car.
http://joeybsyc.smugmug.com/Other/32-ford/i-swPnBP2/0/XL/031-XL.jpg
http://joeybsyc.smugmug.com/Other/32-ford/i-KvGd4ZS/0/XL/photo32-XL.jpg
http://joeybsyc.smugmug.com/Other/32-ford/i-p7FT7m2/1/XL/Untitled1-XL.jpg
mockingbird812
03-04-2015, 11:28 PM
: nice ride Joe.
flyingn
03-04-2015, 11:41 PM
damn Joe. I admire your fortitude to drive your car in any weather. Just thinking about the rain and my Torino gives me the heebie jeebies!
XXXGoldL34M20
03-05-2015, 01:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, my opinion. Radials look stupid on a musclecar. Sorry, they do. BFG's, Eagle ST's, whatever... they just look wrong. I have worn out several sets of bias repro tires on several different cars. I just finished putting together a set of Wide Tread GT's because my current set is worn out, and put over 27,000 miles on a '32 highboy with repop bias ply Firestone skinnies on it for every mile. Not just sissy sunny sunday afternoon stuff either.... The car has seen rain, snow, sleet, hail, and multiple 500+ mile trips at 55-75 mph... never a problem. My only gripe is they wear out faster than a radial, but if you have a weekend cruiser they're gonna last you YEARS even if they do only get about 12,000-15,000 miles of wear out of them if you don't want to run them to the cords. I'm just getting ready to mount up my 3rd set on the hot rod. I'd never consider putting radials on it or any old car.</div></div>
Amen <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif ,
When I bought my 1970 LS6 Chevelle 5 years ago it came with the pathetic looking T/A's on the car, within 2 weeks I took them off and the Polyglas went on the car.
Again guys, just put your hand on the steering wheel and hang on as those Polyglas will take you anywhere. I love the ride and looks of Polyglas tires <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
P.S. >> I run a 1970 Chevelle SS club on Facebook and I will not allow a photo of a restored SS with Radial Tires in my club to be posted as I consider cars with Radials to be a Cosmetic Modification that does not finish a restored car off properly. Seems people like my format as I am closing in on 5000 members.
Sorry I just don't get it when a person restores there car to original but slaps on Radials YUK. I never will.
Also I love the MCACN show because it has tons of Polyglas tires on about 95% of the cars.
sixtiesmuscle
03-05-2015, 02:02 PM
My $.02, anybody can drive on radials. It take a man to handle bias plies. That said, although they are more expensive, the Good Years from Rusty ride and handle much better than Firestones. A lot of this depends on the status of your suspension components. If you have a worn out suspension, the radials will be much more forgiving. I realize that roughly 1200 for a good set of GYs vs. 4-500 for T/As is a big difference, but putting the black side out on 70 series, not 45-60 series, at least helps mask the offense.
earntaz
03-05-2015, 04:25 PM
Back in the day (1966) I bought a used 63' Vette. It had stock tires (of course -- bias ply) and it was time to replace the rubber. I was talked into replacing the old rubber with Michelin tires. The change in handling, ride, etc. was awesome.
I understand the desire to keep a vehicle stock in appearance -- but as a non-carpet car, radials are superior.
al8apex
03-05-2015, 05:52 PM
those that that actually DRIVE cars on bias plies (more than the local car show) ... um, well are different than I am
*I* prefer a nice handling car with a nice ride
(however all my tires get the blackball treatment or letters mounted inside)
I also REPLACE my daily driver tires EVERY year with NEW tires
*I* want the nice ride and the GRIP that only FRESH tires provide
(I can also sell the take off tires and recoup 75-100% of my yearly investment)
I learned from 40+ years of motorsports activity about age and heat cycling on tires
FRESH is the ONLY way to go
(my opinion, YMMV )
earntaz
03-05-2015, 06:59 PM
Was that before or after you burned the tires off at Beeline ... LOL
njsteve
03-05-2015, 09:03 PM
Nothing beats the ride on radials..and nothing beats the little white lettered sidewalls of the late 1960's and early 1970s.
Someone should invent a stick-on applique of the small lettered <span style="font-style: italic">"POLYGLAS GT"</span> lettering that can be applied to the blackwall side of a set of modern radials. That would be a cool invention.
CanCOPO
03-05-2015, 09:22 PM
It's definitely a lot cheaper to roast the TAs.
stritestoration
03-05-2015, 10:43 PM
Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p45/jstrits/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/jstrits/media/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg.html)
earntaz
03-06-2015, 01:35 AM
The trick look of the 60s/70s GoodYears and Firestones was never questioned -- have to agree with the comment that a tire manufacture needs to take a modern radial design and make them look close to the 60s/70s rubber.
flyingn
03-06-2015, 11:11 AM
ooooooohhh so nice.... Hows the firestones do? What size are you running?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stritestoration</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p45/jstrits/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/jstrits/media/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg.html) </div></div>
stritestoration
03-06-2015, 11:47 AM
I sold the car but it was not horrible. and I do not recall the size. I don't think they make that style anymore so they may have been old. But as mentioned before the good years seem better than the firestones.
Plowman
03-06-2015, 11:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The trick look of the 60s/70s GoodYears and Firestones was never questioned -- have to agree with the comment that a tire manufacture needs to take a modern radial design and make them look close to the 60s/70s rubber. </div></div> ***x2 on that,why can't they see that.
A12pilot
03-06-2015, 12:27 PM
Guys,
Diamondback Radials is just starting to make exactly what we've all been waiting for! They make radial tires in the style of the old bias plys on only a few models right now. I think they are only for the Trifives that take the 6.70x15s, and a few others. I'm hoping more come for the Muscle Car crowd next. I'm building a 49 Chevy truck and they now make those bias ply style tires in radial form, so they are getting there. Factory bias ply look with the radial technology/handling. Not the redline/whitewall BFG look we all commonly see from Coker. Just wanted to pass that along and check their website for more info.
Cheers
SS4Real
03-06-2015, 03:18 PM
That would be great. I know a zillion guys that are looking for just that. Modern radials for muscle cars with old school look of the Goodyear or Firestone with small white letters.
flyingn
03-06-2015, 03:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS4Real</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be great. I know a zillion guys that are looking for just that. Modern radials for muscle cars with old school look of the Goodyear or Firestone with small white letters. </div></div>
I know I would be..
earntaz
03-06-2015, 09:59 PM
There is definitely a market ...
olredalert
03-06-2015, 11:25 PM
----There definetly is a market, but even though I posted about a radial tire re-design, I still like bias-plys. I think its partly a function of age (on my part) and that elusive old-time feel that some of us old farts actually find entertaining. I know that when I dent the floor board with the throttle pedal I love the feel......Bill S
GTO_DON
03-06-2015, 11:40 PM
Here's a twist for ya. How bout a set of old school radial T/A's form the early 70's with the small letters and square tire design like the bias. I have a few sets of those. 14-15 inches.
olredalert
03-07-2015, 12:38 AM
----That's what Im talkin about, Don!!!......Bill S
al8apex
03-07-2015, 01:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stritestoration</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe this will help the decision. Bias ply's look SOOO good. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p45/jstrits/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg (http://s125.photobucket.com/user/jstrits/media/ebay%20parts%20003.jpg.html)</div></div>
the LOOK, I agree
my 69 4spd endura bumper Daytona Yellow Camaro RS convertible LOOKED great, but drove NOTHING like my 70 Z28, that is why I sold the 69 when I got married. I was not DRIVING the 69 as much anymore. The 70 DROVE better and *I* like driving the cars, not looking at them
earntaz
03-07-2015, 01:53 AM
X2!!!
camarojoe
03-07-2015, 03:58 PM
Coker has created a line of radials for antiques and hot rods that supposedly "look" like a bias ply. It probably won't be long until they make something similar for musclecars.
"Bias-Ply Look" Radials (https://www.cokertire.com/catalog/product/view/id/3862/s/american-classic-bias-profile-radials/category/2/)
I'll admit they look better than most modern radials, but they still are a far cry from the real thing as far as looks go in my opinion. I think the general construction of a radial is so much different from a bias-ply that it's almost impossible to make a radial truly look the same. As long as they reproduce brand new reproduction bias tires I'm happy. Anyone doing any serious performance driving/autocrossing/etc. in an old car is likely building a pro touring style car with big wheels and isn't interested in a tall sidewall radial that looks like an original bias ply anyhow. As long as your suspension components aren't worn out the repro bias tires work just fine and look like they're supposed to.
427TJ
03-07-2015, 04:01 PM
I like the way my Camaro changes lanes on the freeway all by itself. I'm sticking with the Coker F70s.
flyingn
03-07-2015, 07:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the way my Camaro changes lanes on the freeway all by itself. I'm sticking with the Coker F70s. </div></div>
Thats a rare option on the camaro, don't you know? Auto lane change!
ZiggyL78
03-08-2015, 05:52 PM
It's funny on what we get used to.I made a deal with a guy a while ago to trade a GN for 1972 GS350 in North Carolina.The GS was original and in excellent shape.It had radials and drove as well as any 40 year old car should.The only problem I noticed was the road noice on the highway.Don't forget I just got out of a 1987 GN which is an excellent driving car and was quiet for a performance car.Pulling over in a truck stop for lunch,I checked the underpad and it was fine.Factory paint/tar on the floor and undercoated underneath.There was nothing wrong with the car.It's just the way they were.All I worked on at the time was GNs and I hadn't driven an old car in a few years.I owned and drove lots of A bodys back in the day.I thought they were the best driving cars at the time.
When you bought these cars new with Polyglas tires they drove fine.Even in the rain.No dought they drove and handled much better with radials,but we didn't know any better.The truck ruts weren't as bad back then and maybe the old shocks matched to the bias tires helped.I don't know.Half the time we had slicks and skinnies with 90/10s and no front sway bar.NP.lol.
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