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Bill Pritchard
03-26-2015, 10:04 PM
I have a door lock cylinder on the drivers door that the key goes about half way in and just stops. I have removed it from the car and had sprayed a bunch of graphited lock fluid in and let it sit for several days....no improvement. The corresponding lock on the passenger door works just fine with the key, and both cylinders have the same code number. My Fisher Body manual says in order to access the workings of the lock cylinder (tumblers, etc.) one must remove the "scalp" but there is no corresponding picture or diagram. I am guessing the "scalp" is the stainless covering that is visible on the outside of the car when the lock cylinder is installed. It also says that the scalp is normally destroyed in the process, but service replacements are available(!?) Anyone have any experience or advice in this regard?

STF455
03-26-2015, 10:56 PM
The stainless steel cap can probably be found in most GM parts departments, if you have to resort to taking the cylinder apart. They used the same caps until the late 90's on some GM vehicles.

Check for a broken off key, then douse it good with penetrating oil (like WD40)- sometimes the pot metal cylinder gets crusty and you can work it loose without disassembly. The tumblers and springs in the cylinder can try your patience if you haven't dealt with them before.

Bill Pritchard
03-27-2015, 02:21 AM
Sean,

Thanks for the tip about the broken key. That prompted me to go out to the garage and give the lock assembly a few good whacks on my wooden workbench top. Sure enough, that dislodged a broken key and with a little finesse, I was able to work it out without further disassembly. The lock works fine now! Thanks again so much for the tip <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

Postsedan
03-27-2015, 02:43 AM
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Dan

earntaz
03-27-2015, 12:38 PM
AND those that will share their knowledge -- especially in this forum ... all super people dedicated to their passion ... CLASSIC CARS!!!

THANKS TO ALL -- TAZ

Bill Pritchard
03-27-2015, 07:31 PM
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Tracker1
03-27-2015, 07:32 PM
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03-27-2015, 07:36 PM
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Bill Pritchard
04-01-2015, 04:02 AM
OK, now that the door lock issue is solved I have a problem with the glove box lock.

Glove box lock assembly seemed very loosey-goosey and had paint overspray all over it so I decided to pull it out to check and refresh. Under the best of circumstances, these are difficult to remove as you really need three or four hands. This one was a real struggle to remove, but somehow I did get it out. Once removed, I notice that the lock 'code' for the glove box lock is a different code than the trunk lock is. Key works fine in the trunk lock, but after a whole lot of fiddling around today, I cannot get the glove box lock to turn with the key (despite the fact that I somehow did get it turned to the lock position in order to remove the lock in the first place!).

Is there someone that sells specific-coded glove box locks, or is this something a competent auto lock shop could rework?

Postsedan
04-01-2015, 04:19 AM
Bill,

When you go to the Chassis Dyno.....have them look at it.....this way Marilee may not say you have not thrown enough money into her <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

IF NOT, A GOOD OLD TIME LOCKSMITH CAN HELP YOU.

Dan

Bill Pritchard
04-01-2015, 04:36 AM
Going to the chassis dyno next Monday....but I think I will skip asking them about the lock issue <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

10-4 on the old time locksmith....now to try and actually FIND one.....

m22mike
04-01-2015, 10:37 AM
Bill
If you do not find a local place to help you out I have used Jesser's in Akron Oh. Recommended by Woj. Call and ask for Joey, very good, they do it all.

Jessers (http://www.jessersclassickeys.com/)

Mike

Bill Pritchard
04-01-2015, 02:17 PM
OMG Mike, that place looks like EXACTLY what I need! The fact that you and Phil recommend it is icing on the cake. Thank you so much. Once again..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

Woj
04-01-2015, 02:38 PM
Jesser's isn't cheap, but they are worth what they charge. I had them make 10 different GM keys for me a couple of years ago, everyone one worked without issue.

Let me know if you need someone to help on this end.

Phil Woj.

68l30
04-01-2015, 06:06 PM
I'll agree with all of the above, used them before with excellent results.


BIG

Bill Pritchard
04-02-2015, 08:35 PM
Just got off the phone with Joey....keys ordered and should be here end of next week. Once I make sure those keys work in ignition, door, and trunk locks then the glove box lock will be off to Jesser's to be made to work with the new trunk &amp; glove box key. Thanks so much for the tip!!!

Bill Pritchard
05-14-2015, 11:31 PM
Count me as another satisfied Jesser's customer. New keys work perfectly and by following a procedure outlined in the Fisher Body Service Manual, I was able to make the existing glove box lock cylinder function with the new key. Thanks to Mike, Phil, and Steve for recommending Jesser's <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

Postsedan
05-14-2015, 11:51 PM
Well done....by all parties. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

Dan

m22mike
05-15-2015, 01:24 AM
Bill
I knew you would be geeked, when I picked up my stuff for the last resto I did, I got a 1 hr. class on cutting keys and all the stools involved, he is awesome, worth all the money, and guaranteed forever.

Mike