1970 ss NOVA

[brent396]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321738380718?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPage

[1969l78]

That one has been for sale a few times on there.

[GTO_DON]

And will be again and again with those colors and price.

[x77-69z28]

Amen.

[my69rat]

I don't know the color is different it is a nice car. My wife likes it but the price is way to high.

[MagicRatt]

43k for a small block car?? Yikes......

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

That interior looks new to me... Still a nice car.

[hiperf406]

I don't mind the color scheme, looks like it's a nice car. I'd sure drive it.

[earntaz]

Looks like whoever ordered the car originally threw the option book at it ...

[427TJ]

And forgot to add L78.

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Nickey Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That interior looks new to me... Still a nice car.</div></div>

Novas get no respect. No matter what condition it seems.

[1969L78Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Nickey Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That interior looks new to me... Still a nice car.</div></div>

Novas get no respect. No matter what condition it seems.
</div></div>

As Rodney Dangerfield used to say &quot;It ain't easy being me&quot; or a Nova

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTO_DON</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And will be again and again with those colors and price. </div></div>

X2! I obviously like the color, but it's not really very popular - and the price is simply out of touch with the market...

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Nickey Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That interior looks new to me... Still a nice car.</div></div>

Novas get no respect. No matter what condition it seems.
</div></div>

That goes for us Nova owners too...I guess that includes you Sammy <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[luzl78]

Does this car have a rear sway bar? I see the f41 suspension but does that include the rear sway bar?

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this car have a rear sway bar? I see the f41 suspension but does that include the rear sway bar? </div></div>

This car was built too early for the rear sway bar...you will note the date on POP [11/69]...the Nova rear sway bar made its debut in the spring of 1970.

wilma

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Nickey Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That interior looks new to me... Still a nice car.</div></div>

Novas get no respect. No matter what condition it seems.

Your right Sam, they don't... Just like the Dodge Darts in the Mopar world.
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[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this car have a rear sway bar? I see the f41 suspension but does that include the rear sway bar? </div></div>

This car was built too early for the rear sway bar...you will note the date on POP [11/69]...the Nova rear sway bar made its debut in the spring of 1970.

wilma </div></div>

Officially, Jan of '70 - so in order for the car to have a RSB it needs to have been built after Jan of '70.

[L78steve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does this car have a rear sway bar? I see the f41 suspension but does that include the rear sway bar? </div></div>

This car was built too early for the rear sway bar...you will note the date on POP [11/69]...the Nova rear sway bar made its debut in the spring of 1970.

wilma </div></div>

Officially, Jan of '70 - so in order for the car to have a RSB it needs to have been built after Jan of '70. </div></div>

Have you ever seen a Jan. or Feb. with Rear bar? I think it debuted later.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Our 4th of Feb. L78 did not have the bar...our July 70 L78 did...I think Sully's car [May?] has one. Didn't I read somewhere that all the Deuces had the rear bar??

wilma

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

No, I'm only saying the RPO F41 was not drawn up with a RSB component until Jan of '70 per the date on the assy manual revision. So, any Nova with a RSB needs to be dated after Jan '70. How quickly did they integrate the RSB into production is anyone's guess!

[L78steve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Our 4th of Feb. L78 did not have the bar...our July 70 L78 did...I think Sully's car [May?] has one. Didn't I read somewhere that all the Deuces had the rear bar??

wilma </div></div>

My 02C Nova does not have it either. Would F41 have to be ordered to get the bar or is it standard in certain applications?
And was the F41 option avail. prior to Jan.70 without the rear bar?

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78steve</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Our 4th of Feb. L78 did not have the bar...our July 70 L78 did...I think Sully's car [May?] has one. Didn't I read somewhere that all the Deuces had the rear bar??

wilma </div></div>

My 02C Nova does not have it either. Would F41 have to be ordered to get the bar or is it standard in certain applications?
And was the F41 option avail. prior to Jan.70 without the rear bar? </div></div>


The F41 option was available prior to the rear sway bar being added...as to it being 'standard'...I think it might have been part of all the later Nova SS models...our Autumn Gold L78 had the F41 and the option wasn't listed on the window sticker <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif If there are other Nova SS owners with later cars it would nice to get some feedback.

wilma

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

It was a separate option, only available on SS models, and was sans RSB before Jan of '70. The COPO 9737 likely included the F41 in order to get it installed on a non-SS Nova. So, that is how the Yenko Deuce Novas ended up with F41 on a non-SS body.

[LIBoomer]

My unmolested 02D SS Nova does not have a rear bar, or upper mounts for one, but does have the sway bar leaf spring plates.

[L78steve]

My 02B has the bar plates also.

[JRSully]

Wilma is correct, my 70 is an 05B build and has the RSB, also has the 4 leaf rear leaf springs too, believe this was part of the F41

[L78steve]

My car has the 4 leaf and the 13/16 front bar for the BB but does this translate to F41? F41 is not on my window sticker.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

F41 was bars and shocks, F40 was springs. I don't think you could get F40 &amp; F41 on the same car.

[L78steve]

I believe I remember from way back that F40 was included with BB.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

I always believed that with the F41 you got the 13/16's front bar, rear bar setup and 5 leafs with the springs. F40 was standard with 4 leafs with a 11/16's front bar,this is the original setup on my 70 L34 Nova. The 4 leaf type springs are the same springs that were used on the 69 &amp; 70 Z/28 Camaros. My 72 Nova SS has the F41 setup with 13/16's front bar and rear bar with 5 leafs for the springs.

[Mr. Chevy]

My 70 L78 is a Feb. 70 build and has the F40, 4 rear leafs and 11/16 front bar..

Rich

[JRSully]

My car had the original blue HH tagged front springs (I think, still have them somewhere?) and the original spiral shocks, I kept those too. My car was off the road since '76. so it was pretty unmessed with

[MarcDant]

My 1970 nova ss was built mid jan. My canadain gm docs. has f 41 suspension as a option.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marshall</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My 1970 nova ss was built mid jan. My canadain gm docs. has f 41 suspension as a option. </div></div>

The option was available during the entire '70 build year, but the rear sway bar was not added to the option until Jan of '70. So, does your car have the rear sway bar?

[JayR]

My GM Canada documented 1970 Nova SS was the last L78 shipped to Canada (end of June/70). It had the F41 option and the rear sway bar. Showing as a separate option was the G32 computer selected rear springs. This car also had the dual snorkel air cleaner.

Bob

[MarcDant]

Yes it has rear sway bar. Here is a picture of general motors of canada options list 4 my car.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/05/full-18984-26314-picture.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

So marshall...just to clarify: your Jan built 70 physically has the rear sway bar on the car or are you just referring to the F41 option listed on the GM of Canada docs?? If you have the bar, it is the earliest one I have ever heard of.

Thanks...wilma

[L78steve]

I don't believe the rear bar was available until March or April. As well as the resonators and dual snorkel.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Technically, it's possible but like Tom states - it would be the earliest one we've heard of. IIRC, there are Revision dates on the blueprints as Jan of '70, and the initial design dates were in December of '69 which means that it's possible that they could have incorporated the RSB into the option as quickly as Jan '70, unlikely - but possible....

[Kurt S]

Yup, paperwork changes and line implementation of a running change are two different things.
http://www.camaros.org/AIM.shtml#changes

[70 copo]

Those changes could happen pretty fast and did not always wait for an AIM revision to physically make it to the floor

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Agreed!