1969 Camaro Tie Down

[Thomas]

Where did the transport companies tie down the rear of the 1969 Camaros during shipment?
I have spent 1/2 an hour crawling around under the rear of my car and cannot see any place where they could have inserted a hook.

[67 Nova Boy]

Maybe they used a strap wrapped around the housing and tied into that with a hook? Allot of tow flatbeds use them.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[Thomas]

I think that would let the cars "bounce" too much during shipment.
If the transporters were similar to the ones today, they look like they have a chain on a reel.
Once the hook is attached to something, the tighten the chain on the reel...

[Craig_Maiorana]

There are no oval openings in the rear frame rails? ... We had our 66 Hemi Coronet 500 sent to Atlantic City one time on a transport and when the car got back we found that they just stuck a hook in some random hole in the frame and it tore out from all of the bouncing

[Thomas]

The reason that I am asking this is that I need to find a different place to tie down my race car on my trailer.
I was using the real end housing, but that allows rear of the car to bounce and is hard on some very expensive shocks.
So, I am hoping that someone knows how they were originally tied down during transport.
There is a picture out there of a bunch of Yenkos and it is obvious that they are tied down by the frame, judging how far the rear wheel is up inside the wheel well.

Normally, I would just drill some holes in the frame rail and fabricate a mount, but this car is cleaner than my 39,000 original mile street car and I just do not have the heart to drill through the mint frame rails...
The car shows 3,700 miles on the odometer and, from the rust free condition of the shell, I suspect that to be original before it was turned into a race car.

[sYc]

Front and rear there are slots/holes where they inserted a metal "t-bar" hooked to a chain.

[Craig_Maiorana]

Yeah like SYC said there should be some oval reinforced holes that a T hook will pop into. The rear holes should be just a step inward of the front leaf shackle point

[PxTx]

I'd love to see the car. Can you post a pic?

[Thomas]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/06/full-257-27437-dse_june_7_qualifying_launch.j

[COPO CARTEL]

That would look cool at the SCR 18 doing that

[Thomas]

I knew someone here would have the answer.
I will check for the holes.
Thank you very much.

[watk69]

After almost beating by beloved 69 to death bringing it back from Iowa having it hop around using axle straps at the rear, I only use tire baskets fastened down to E Track in the floor

[Dicky]

Hey Clif, just a question about tire baskets,
how do they keep the sprung body from bouncing
any different than axle straps? Thanks DH

[PxTx]

I was thinking of this thread today while I was tying something down in ky truck. I'm sure this is a very nice car, but I think you are better served by bolting a proper bracker than trying to use a sheetmetal hole from the factroy. I'm sure they only had intentions for it to be used one or two times. Here is a bed rail hole on my truck. I have over 250k on it and it is well used. I still would rather weld up two bolt holes than reproduce the rolled opening on a frame rail hole.

Another idea would be to disconnect the shocks, maybe?

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[Day2_69Z]

Where's the rust and dents ?

[firstgenaddict]

The front ones are just behind the holes for the bumper brackets in the subframe.
I have a set of the tie down hooks/chains(GM, FORD, Chrysler) we picked up from an auto transporter back in the late 70's.

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Why not just do a double wrap on the rear spring just behind the U bolts and if needed do the same on the front portion of the spring. Use a synthetic sling so as to not hurt any finished surfaces.

[watk69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dicky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Clif, just a question about tire baskets,
how do they keep the sprung body from bouncing
any different than axle straps? Thanks DH </div></div>

My main interest is getting the car as a whole to stay put and not jostle from side to side on a slick floor in my trailer (its a Featherlite with an alum floor&quot;. I don't care too much if the suspension gets exercised on an OEM setup. But your's is a race car and I imagine body bounce on those slicks would not be a good thing at all. So strapping holes on the frame might be the best solution. My car with this welded down L Track system from Mac's the car did not move even a fraction all the way to and from Frederick MD

[68l30]

Cross the straps....it won't move.


BIG

[hiperf406]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: watk69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After almost beating by beloved 69 to death bringing it back from Iowa having it hop around using axle straps at the rear, I only use tire baskets fastened down to E Track in the floor </div></div>
I've been doing this for years &amp; found it to suit me the best. I have hauled our cars thousands of miles with no problems.

lorne

[watk69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cross the straps....it won't move.


BIG </div></div>


On a Concours type car where do you do that and not pinch or mash brake lines, hoses, brackets etc and keep from marking up axle housing on a 69 Z/28? I was trying that on ride home with the car and gave up. Seemed like straight back underneath the brake lines was my only option, hence the switch to wheel baskets since then

[68l30]

I go thru the traction bars on my Day two 68, I use to go in front of the axle around the leaf spring mount and down and back on cars without. It won't move or scratch...Same with the front, cross and leave the winch cable attached to the sling with a bit of slack. I let the tie downs hold the car. Never have they gotten loose or has the car moved. Both on a open trailer and enclosed.

BIG

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