Care of original paint (mid 60's Laquer)

[Keith Seymore]

Ok - last one:

Can anything be done to slow the cracking/spiderwebbing of original laquer paint?

My '65 GTO is all original; the vertical surfaces look pretty good but the horizontal surfaces, primarily the rear of the hood and the deck lid as a whole, are pretty crazed and gradually getting worse and worse.

Can anything be done (besides repainting)?

K

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Eyes%20on%20Design%202009/100_7380.jpg

[whitetop]

Temperature controlled garage> freezing and warming temp fluctuations are killer on paint.

[Day2_69Z]

Wow, you're asking time to stand still.....
And as a famous singer's lyrics spoke volumes. ...
Rust never sleeps.....

Not that I've done this recently....
(I have, decades ago on barn finds)
A RA IV Judge, 57 Chevy, 70 Monte SS 454 & 65 Malibu L79 , all with Lacquer & 2 out 4 in Black , I mixed Clear playing with Hot to Cold thinners finding a match to other body panels ,matched the sheen/gloss then lightly sanding orange peel to a moderate level and buffing with very minimal contrasts.
Test it on other old or original paint, you may be quite pleased.
Good luck

[cook_dw]

This <span style="font-weight: bold">might</span> help. As you'll read in the thread; paints dry out and the oils from the #7 help keep it saturated.



Restoring Single Stage Paints (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html)

[Keith Seymore]

Thanks, guys -

K

[cook_dw]

Granted my 67 isnt original paint but I plan to use a similar process on my original paint 68 within the next few months..

So yesterday I bought a new tool/toy and gave it a try last night to see how well it would do.. The before pic you can see some fine scratches on the deck lid. So I picked up a DA polisher from Harbor Freight and all 3 pads. After cleaning the surface; I used Meguiar's Scratch 2.0 then back over it with #7. I can say I am very pleased with the polisher and cant wait to finish the entire car.. If any of you have been like me and always hand polished or waxed your car then go out and get this polisher and you will not be sorry.. I also plan to use this on the original paint 68 within the next few months so I will add that to this thread at that time.


<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Harbor Freight Part # 69924</span></span> - Link to Polisher (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-57-amp-heavy-duty-dual-action-variable-speed-polisher-69924.html)

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_23859.jpg



<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">This is the Scratches before:</span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Camaro/IMG_3592_zpshzaehbtm.jpg


<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">After:</span></span>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Camaro/IMG_3593_zps8vp9dc6b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Camaro/IMG_3602_zpsl9hunevh.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Camaro/IMG_3599_zpsfqxtdziu.jpg

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I can't wait to polish my car, the original owner had it painted in 1970 or 1971, lots of patina:-)

Ryan

[black69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok - last one:

Can anything be done to slow the cracking/spiderwebbing of original laquer paint?

My '65 GTO is all original; the vertical surfaces look pretty good but the horizontal surfaces, primarily the rear of the hood and the deck lid as a whole, are pretty crazed and gradually getting worse and worse.

Can anything be done (besides repainting)?

K

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Eyes%20on%20Design%202009/100_7380.jpg

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Consider using black turtle wax products (there is more than one grade of kits out there). I had good luck with my original paint car. Fills in all kinds of imperfections on darker cars. Use it on your old glass too, works great. Then I coat the body over with mothers paste.

[mockingbird812]

...or, you could wear your cracks and crazing as a badge of honor! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Very sweet ride Keith! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[markinnaples]

Interesting thread. My Camaro trunk lid looks as if someone took some sandpaper to it just in one 8&quot;x8&quot; spot and really scratch the shizzle out of it. I'll try to get a pic tonight and post. Totally unsure what to do to fix it, but it looks horrible if you look at it from an angle. Any thoughts?

[cook_dw]

I assume you have enamel or lacquer paint. How much metallic is in the silver?

[markinnaples]

Painted in ~1978, so lacquer it is. It's mostly metalflake, but tiny flakes, with a lot of clear over it all.

[cook_dw]

As most say go with the least abrasive and work your way down.. I like the scratch 2.0.. It has gotten rid of all the fine scratches I have found on my 67. I would start there and then down down. Just my $0.02

[firstgenaddict]

#7 Show Car glaze... it took approx a quart to rehydrate the paint on the Black RS/Z. I applied it liberally by ahnd then waited till the next day to polish it off... then again and again and again...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29431-69camarooriginal_030.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29432-633599_day1_delivery_back2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29433-633599_day1_inside_trunk.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29435-633599_day1_quarterpanelpaint. (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29435-633599_day1_quarterpanelpaint)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29436-pict1818.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29437-69_z_06.02.06_097.jpg (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29437-69_z_06.02.06_097.jpg)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29438-69camarooriginal_020.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29439-pict1817.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/07/full-254-29440-pict1815.jpg

[markinnaples]

Wow, your results are amazing.

[Xplantdad]

I know there was a really old guy that used to come into the Olds dealer I worked at in the early 80's with his gold 442. The paint looked awesome and was original paint. He said he washed the car with 1 part kerosene and 2 parts water. Also, when he wanted to wipe it down between washes, he'd use the same stuff.

I remember him telling me that the old time limo drivers would use this trick to keep their limos looking great?

I guess it makes sense, since bug and tar remover have petroleum distillates...as well as some car waxes?

[firstgenaddict]

The kero and water is an old used car dealer trick... then illuminate using incandescent lighting and even BLACK looks great!!!

The #7 is a PURE polish meaning it doesn't have an abrasives, it is truly a glaze, it was called Sealer when I first used it, it was changed to Glaze not long after. No other company has a matching product that I have found. The information I have read from Meguires states #7 is the original polish formula developed by Meguire 100+ years ago.

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...or, you could wear your cracks and crazing as a badge of honor! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Very sweet ride Keith! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif </div></div>

Thank you; that's where we've been at for the last 50 years.

The vertical surfaces look pretty good. There's a steady degradation of the horizontal surfaces (hood and decklid).

The paint was never very good even when new. There are hand prints in the hood, hairs in the quarters and a large &quot;swiped&quot; area on the deck lid, like some one wiped away solvent or fluid and sprayed right over the top of it.

All still very visible to this day.

K