'66 427 Biscayne - Don Breen

[mockingbird812]

Don Breen (Phoenix) is putting a sweet '66 Biscayne back together now just coming back from the paint shop. Don does real nice work ('I'll upload some pix real quick) ....http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/08/full-1691-30042-image.jpg
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[mockingbird812]

More.....

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[mockingbird812]

Chassis Assembly.....

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[cook_dw]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif Dang it.. Is this legal to post car porn?? Idk why but the older I get the more I am loving the bigger body cars of the mid 60's.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[novadude]

Nice! Factory L72?

I'm glad this one appears to be RPO Marina Blue and not a special paint code. We've had enough fun with special paint for the month! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[SS427]

Love it!

[ZAPPER68]

Wow! It's even got the L72 idler pulley that was usually 'ditched' when new.

[earntaz]

Now that one is going to be a nice one!

[DW31S]

Very cool indeed

[WILMASBOYL78]

The more I see those BB motors with the painted valve covers, aluminum intake and dual snorkel the more I like them. It is a nice change from the all the other L72 and L78 cars...very nice <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

wilma

[novadude]

What was the purpose of the idler pulley on these cars?

[MarcDant]

probabaly for adjusting tension on the belt for the water pump.

[m22mike]

Nice Sam <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Have you been out lately ?

Mike

[olredalert]

----If you lost the alternator belt the engine wouldn't overheat......Bill S

[markjohnson]

It's been referred to as the &quot;flee the scene&quot; belt so your water pump keeps turning after you toss the alternator belt. There's nothing worse than being on the side of the road after a street race putting the alternator belt back on when Buford T. Justice rolls up behind you.

[earntaz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The more I see those BB motors with the painted valve covers, aluminum intake and dual snorkel the more I like them. It is a nice change from the all the other L72 and L78 cars...very nice <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

wilma </div></div>

Nothing wrong with stock appearing ...

[novadude]

So what keeps the idler belt from getting tossed just like the alternator belt?

[markjohnson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what keeps the idler belt from getting tossed just like the alternator belt? </div></div>

The large pulley on it along with the fact that it's closer location to the water pump doesn't have the same large span as the long floppy alternator belt has. Shorter belts tend to stay more stable.

[mockingbird812]

Mikey,

Haven't been back lately (since I imported my honey last fall). Don keeps me posted on his projects. He sent me a bunch of chassis assembly photos which I misplaced. I'll ask him to forward those and I'll post them here.... talk about car porn!!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif

[Xplantdad]

Don is awesome! I saw him recently at the u-sell-it swap meet out here <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[mockingbird812]

Chassis shots....

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[John]

.... Wow ...is that restoration going to be awesome <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

..... Great job <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[chevelleheart]

Really Excellent work ! beautiful

[mssl72]

That's what I like to see! Another '66 Marina Blue L72 big car! They're lots of fun!!
What gears did it come with?

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[mockingbird812]

I believe 3.73

[cook_dw]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[mockingbird812]

Don has finished up his Biscayne and his shake down cruise and all is in order! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

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[mockingbird812]

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[mockingbird812]

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[mockingbird812]

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[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Sweet!! Nicely done...

[300deluxeL79]

WOW <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

L<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gifVE it too, 'specially w/ that B-Pillar!
Really great all the Mk1V B-Body action around here lately!!!
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~ Pete

[Postsedan]

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Dan

[JRSully]

If that don't look like the 1st picture when you came home from the dealership, I'd like to see something better. Beautiful job

[green crv]

Just WOW <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[m22mike]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif and more <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

Wow, less is more, very cool.

[Xplantdad]

Don's work is ALWAYS amazing! Can't wait to see it in person....


Aiming the headlights on the garage door? I see blue painters tape there <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[mockingbird812]

Don't forget what it looks like beneath this beautiful body!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif

[GOSFAST]

Hi Don, I'm the new guy here, engine builder.

Just a question, did you or your engine builder remember to groove the rear cam journal? Assuming you have the original block in the program it needs that groove.

(Add) Excellent build choice, looks really sharp. Kind of like those full-sized rides for a change of pace.

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. We are heavy into doing the engines for a local resto shop, we do all his builds and they all get dynoed beforehand, makes for no issues after the install.

[SS427]

Beautiful car and a blast to drive I am sure.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

That car is just spectacular....nicely done!!

[mockingbird812]

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[Tarrytown SS427s]

What a beautiful car and nice job on the details! Nice to see another Biscayne surface. I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car? Was it originally a small block/glide car?

[HAD 5 NEW]

I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ?

[bbbentley]

Speechless! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[DW31S]

&quot;Saturday, Saturday.......in lane 1 is the show quality '66 427 of Don Breen running B/S&quot;
Remember......that IS why these cars were built way back then. Could also have dropped down to C/S with a little extra weight.
Wow, that car is nice, gotta be the nicest example out there. Very nice job on the build. Any race history known???

[TAR6569]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAD 5 NEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have to ask, why did they put a fake cowl tag on the car WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ? </div></div>

Are you the owner? ( thought maybe since you wrote it all in caps)

Can you tell me if the window sticker and engine block are both original to the car? 2H doesn't appear to have been used on the fullsize cars, at least in 66. There is a documented 66 Biscayne 2dr L72 with original dealer invoice that shows heater delete and that code was not on the tag. Makes sense since it was all bolt on items.

[mssl72]

Hmmmm... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

[Craig_Maiorana]

The tag doesn't look fake. Just looks cleaned up or it could even be a replacement tag.

[iluv69s]

what is a replacement tag?? isn,t that called a fake?

[mockingbird812]

Don sent the last two photos to me and asked me to post them here......that is all I know.

[TAR6569]

Is Don the user &quot;HAD 5 NEW&quot;?

[mssl72]

Ok, so what I've heard is the previous owner had bought some parts from a friend of mine and told my friend that he was building a clone. The previous owner then sold it on ebay. I don't know at what stage of the build it was at when it went on ebay. That's all I know at this point. If the facts are true, that may explain why a few things are out of place.

[mockingbird812]

Don asked me to post this:

&quot; VERY CORRECT RECREATION OF A L72 CAR . THE GUY HAD ROUNDED UP PARTS FOR IT FOR 15 YEARS THAT I BOUGHT IT FROM.&quot;

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[John]

... Don,

... Great job <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

... That is one beautiful car <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[HAD 5 NEW]

lets get this right before it gets out of whack,nowhere has it been said that this is a real L72 but it has been done to as near as possible as a real one. I bought this car from a guy that had bought the car ( 6 cyl 3spd all tinted glass )15 years ago and put it in dry az storage. he then had bought every piece he could find to make it an L72 car. all engine pieces, trans, tach, shifter, steering wheel and 12 bolt rear end are correct 66 pieces. even the wheels are the correct 66 14x6 wheels. I put the car on ebay and the guy that bought it had me do the car.he wanted the car marina blue. for all that don't know it marina blue was only available on the impala line in the full size bodies. I had a new trim tag made to match the car. the car still has the 6 cyl correct vin tag on the drivers door pillar . this car will never be advertised or sold as a correct L72 car!

[mockingbird812]

...and there you have it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Did you think that Don would try to sneak one by the illustrious collective expertise of sYc? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

Like I said before... Don's work is awesome. Don...send me some pics of Bella...or we're gonna have to come and visit her!

[Tarrytown SS427s]

I don't think it was ever suggested that anybody was trying to sneak something by. I simply asked the reason for the fake tag, and quickly got a full caps question back at me asking &quot;WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ?&quot; perhaps in defense to me questioning the tag's authenticity. Now three days later the same person has stated that they in fact had the tag made, and I presume the window sticker as well. That's fine, except that the tag has incorrect codes on it. It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion.

[JpMotorsports]

Very very beautiful car and work!

[427 Biscayne]

My father had a 66 L72 Biscayne from Bast Chevrolet and it was Marina Blue. He bought it new so it was possible to get one Marina Blue. The car came out amazing!

[66 Biscayne]

Marina blue was available on the 66 Biscaynes.....I had one...it was original paint 6 cly. car.

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it!

[earntaz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>

X2 -- some of us cannot afford the &quot;real thing&quot; and build a clone/tribute type vehicle ... the line is crossed when it is passed off as the &quot;real deal&quot; to an unsuspecting buyer. TAZ

[ZAPPER68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>

X2 -- some of us cannot afford the &quot;real thing&quot; and build a clone/tribute type vehicle ... the line is crossed when it is passed off as the &quot;real deal&quot; to an unsuspecting buyer. TAZ</div></div>

This is an interesting thread...I agree 100% with TAZ's comment above. I suppose that cloning is a form of flattery in one respect. However, the downstream effect for some quote: 'unsuspecting buyer' isn't going to be pretty.

For those of us that do have an original 1966 L72 Biscayne (or other rare vehicle), I can only hope that when the time comes for me to sell my car it is appreciated for what it really is. Time will tell....

[copo69]

The 8 or 6 cyl.engine is denoted in the vin so unless vin is changed it's easy to tell if it was a 6. And that's a really beautiful car!

[HAD 5 NEW]

Lets all go back and read this post AGAIN.Maybe it will sink in this time! lets get this right before it gets out of whack,nowhere has it been said that this is a real L72 but it has been done to as near as possible as a real one. I bought this car from a guy that had bought the car ( 6 cyl 3spd all tinted glass )15 years ago and put it in dry az storage. he then had bought every piece he could find to make it an L72 car. all engine pieces, trans, tach, shifter, steering wheel and 12 bolt rear end are correct 66 pieces. even the wheels are the correct 66 14x6 wheels. I put the car on ebay and the guy that bought it had me do the car.he wanted the car marina blue. for all that don't know it marina blue was only available on the impala line in the full size bodies. I had a new trim tag made to match the car. the car still has the 6 cyl correct vin tag on the drivers door pillar . this car will never be advertised or sold as a correct L72 car! If you look at the dealer brochure you will see an astrek by Marina blue* Look and see that it says Caprice and Impala and Impala Super Sport only !#634482 - 11/14/15 08:17 AM

[copo69]

I was simply pointing out that even down the road 6 cyl cars could be told from 8 cyl cars by the vin no matter the time. It was not meant to question your car in any way and if I offended you I'm sorry. I think your car is extremely nice and it's good to see all the correct parts on it.

[earntaz]

X2!!!

[caj]

Beautiful car!!!

[70 Forest Green Zee]

I don't think anyone here is questioning how nice this car is, it's a beautifully done car. The issue here is that you changed the trim tag. A trim tag should never be changed on a car for any reason.....you already state that the car is a clone or tribute so why change the tag? For me personally, I would stay far away from any car that has had the trim tag changed, and I'm sure many others feel the same. The car itself is absolutely beautiful but I think you should re install the original tag to avoid problems down the road....the car is what it is and having the original tag won't hurt a thing.

[427TJ]

Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT.

The car is fantastic, BTW.

[scuncio]

X2...until someone called you out it was never mentioned the car was a clone...but it's very nice either way


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT.

The car is fantastic, BTW. </div></div>

[BJCHEV396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tarrytown SS427s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It doesn't encourage anything good for the hobby, where the sea of cars with fake tags keeps getting bigger and bigger. Just my opinion. </div></div>

I would agree with this. I love clones. Nothing at all wrong with building a super sport or whatever out of a base model. However, I think a line is crossed when the tags get changed. While the original builder / owner may never represent the car as something it is not, who know what kind of fraud will occur 20 years from now when the car changes hands a few times.

Clone away, but leave the cowl tag as delivered by GM. JMO.

Beautiful car, by the way. You did an amazing job on it! </div></div>Well said.

[HAD 5 NEW]

Should have mentioned in the first post that the car was a tribute. It wasn't mentioned for several pages so the confusion and question asking is a result of that as well as the TT
I did not start this post,if you notice the first time I said anything. I said it was a recreation. I build cars for people and build them how they want them. I will do nothing illegal when building them and what they do with them when they get them is their business.

[Steven J]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HAD 5 NEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I will do nothing illegal when building them and what they do with them when they get them is their business. </div></div>


That's what the honest people on this board are trying to guard against.

[TAR6569]

I'm curious. What codes were on the original tag?

[TAR6569]

I looked through the scheduled price lists for 66. Interesting that marina blue, lemonwood yellow and chateau slate are listed as not available on belair and biscayne in the first printing. However, later in the model year they are listed with certain interiors as an &quot;acceptable combination&quot;! Learned something new. I have only one Marina Blue biscayne in my list that I could find. No bel airs.

[HAD 5 NEW]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm curious. What codes were on the original tag? </div></div> E only on trim tag. Like I said it was a 6 cyl 3 speed car with all tinted glass.

[TAR6569]

White on blue originally?

[HAD 5 NEW]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White on blue originally? </div></div> Yes ! have you not looked at all the pictures,it was an orig paint car