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mockingbird812
10-11-2015, 01:44 AM
Been chomping at the bit to get this set up. Here is what I started with. Detached unfinished 2 1/2 car garage at about 500 sq ft. with 9' 4" high ceiling.

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mockingbird812
10-11-2015, 01:55 AM
Insulation is next. I was originally going to put new (er) equipment, cabinets, lighting, etc., but decided to mix things up a bit (note the odd installation of my 100 amp panel, in front of wall instead of within it - at least it has a panel).....

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mockingbird812
10-11-2015, 02:16 AM
I have really enjoyed reading/seeing everyone's contributions to these Garage threads. They helped me with the many choices I needed to make. Drywall's next with a ittle help from some friends. Last shot is of the highly sophisticated intercom system to be connected to the main house.....

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mockingbird812
10-11-2015, 02:42 AM
Fixtures, flooring, colors, lighting, etc......

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68l30
10-11-2015, 11:50 AM
Great job on the fans and lighting! I've had my eye on some 1940's fans in our machine shop.....one day they will be coming home with me!

BIG

Ryan1969Chevelle
10-11-2015, 12:05 PM
Looking great!!

Love the vintage theme!!

Ryan

mockingbird812
10-11-2015, 06:22 PM
Storage......

Old kitchen cabinets (found on CL)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1691-33053-image.jpg

Berger out of Canton, OH Locker/cabinet well made

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70LS6454
10-11-2015, 07:57 PM
Looking great and coming along nice!

Ray

mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 01:04 AM
A few tools for the shop.......

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And some vintage industrial lighting (ceramic fixtures rated to 1500 watts)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1691-33071-image.jpg

mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 01:13 AM
And this little beauty came my way from a new friend in southern Ohio. This fellow has a neat farm with some cool toys! Thanks Bentley! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

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Innards are very nice...
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68l30
10-12-2015, 02:09 AM
That Columbian is a beast! Four inch? Is a resto in it's future? I finished up my Vintage Wilton earlier in the year....

BIG

mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 01:13 PM
Yes BIG, a &quot;604&quot; from the 40s/50s. It is tight and I like the patina. So, for now it will just get a good cleaning and lube.

mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 01:22 PM
Here is another delicate tool that I picked up by word of mouth from a friend. This Blackhawk is a beast. It is the &quot;S4&quot; model from approx. the 1930s. It is rated at 8,000 lbs and it weighs close to 200#. It works but will get a complete mechanical and cosmetice restoration.

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mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 05:44 PM
In order to fit one of these.......

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I had to have some of my trusses reengineered.....

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mockingbird812
10-12-2015, 06:12 PM
I try to plan ahead and am successful sometimes <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif. These strategically placed boards will support my overhead air hose reel being relocated from my AZ shop....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1691-33103-image.jpg

68l30
10-13-2015, 12:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes BIG, a &quot;604&quot; from the 40s/50s. It is tight and I like the patina. So, for now it will just get a good cleaning and lube. </div></div>

Great vise, it will serve you well and your childrens children ! I have a 604 M2 at work, it has seen lots of use and abuse.

BIG

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68l30
10-13-2015, 12:06 AM
I'm envious of the Blackhawk, my Grandad had one I remember playing on as a kid. Can't wait to see that beauty in some color!!

BIG

cook_dw
10-14-2015, 01:49 AM
Great work on the shop!! Definitely diggin' the vintage hardware!!

m22mike
10-15-2015, 12:08 PM
Very nice Sam.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Mike

enio45
10-15-2015, 02:07 PM
nice sam

mockingbird812
10-15-2015, 02:48 PM
As mentioned in another thread, I decided to put in a professionally installed epoxy floor. I had a good experience with this in AZ, but had concerns about the tougher climate in the mid-west. Mike G. has used this process in the mid-west and AZ and recommended a company called Premier Garage. It ain't cheap, but overall met my requirements for how I would be using my shop.

Right off the bat, a problem showed up. When the slab was created in 2003, my flooring guys said it appears the original concrete guys got behind the power curve and the concrete was setting up too fast for them to keep up with it so, it looks like they added significant amounts of water so that the cement rose to the top so that they could smooth it sufficiently. Well this creates a weak top layer and as soon as my guys started to diamond grind it, the top surface began to crumble. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif So, plan B was to do a deep coarse grind to get down to the strong concrete level (about 1/8&quot;).

Here is the initial diamond surface grind (note store bought gray epoxy paint applied a few years ago by previous owner) and the crumbly aftermath....

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And then, the results of the deep, coarse grind. This provides a good foundation for an epoxy slurry that will even out the imperfections (This is being done later today)....

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mockingbird812
10-15-2015, 02:53 PM
Here is a way to even the odds with the higher moisture content in concrete in the mid-west vs. the dry southwest. This is a moisture barrier. It really penetrates down into the relatively porous concrete and creates a strong barrier. Theoretically if your concrete has a measurement of 4% moisture or greater you should use this. My concrete was right around 4% and I opted to use it to hedge my bets. This went down yesterday and today the epoxy slurry goes on top to even out the coarse floor surface....

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Postsedan
10-15-2015, 03:57 PM
Very nice....as usual Mike G. has great advice. I love garage builds.....please keep the progress pics coming.

Is your '69 Chevelle going to live in this beautiful garage?

Dan

mockingbird812
10-15-2015, 08:38 PM
Here is the epoxy slurry mentioned earlier. This is to fill in and level the rough surfaces caused by the deep grinding required of the less than optimal surface of my floor. Tomorrow should be the epoxy paint (medium gray) and the clear coat. I am hoping to not use flakes as I want the vintage look to the floor. We'll see....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1691-33210-image.jpg

cook_dw
10-16-2015, 01:26 AM
Check out that reflection.. Sweet...

mockingbird812
10-18-2015, 10:43 PM
The fellows finsihed up this afternoon and I really like it. The surface that they started with was a big challenge but they were able to get down to a stable surface of the concrete for the epoxy to adhere to. They placed saw cuts to divide the four sections up.

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Xplantdad
10-18-2015, 10:49 PM
Looks good Sam!

Postsedan
10-20-2015, 11:11 AM
Very nice <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

mockingbird812
10-21-2015, 01:08 AM
Time to start putting stuff (back) up, warts and all. The Western Electric is from the 30s. I fabbed up a couple of vintage looking dry cells with hidden alkaline batteries to power the phone. Note the &quot;Weatherhead&quot; note pad. This was from my Grandfather's auto parts store - it is dated 1938....

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mockingbird812
10-21-2015, 01:16 AM
The lower portion of the wall pictured above will get this treatment....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1691-33446-image.jpg

Postsedan
10-21-2015, 01:29 AM
1938..... So cool <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

Dan

68l30
10-21-2015, 01:46 AM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif That phone set up is sweet. The overhead lamp and simplicity are speaking volumns to me. Can't wait to see what else surrounds it!

BIG

SS427
10-21-2015, 12:42 PM
Nice!

Woj
10-21-2015, 01:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The lower portion of the wall pictured above will get this treatment....

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I like the corrugated material for the lower portion of the wall. I was going to do that as well in my detached garage, but I found I was going to lose a couple of inches of width in the garage. Just enough to mess up parking three cars abreast.

Garage is looking nice Sam.

Phil Woj. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
10-21-2015, 03:57 PM
Thanks guys. Yeah Woj, I hear you - every inch counts and also, for the record, I am for breasts as well! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Canuck
10-21-2015, 03:58 PM
Sam
just getting caught up on your progress, its going to be awesome, when is the open house?

Paul

mockingbird812
10-21-2015, 03:59 PM
Will advise Paul, but you gotta bring a muscle car!

markinnaples
10-23-2015, 07:29 PM
Congrats, garage looks killer.

mockingbird812
10-24-2015, 11:44 PM
Here is the finished bump-up that gives me 16 more inches to accomodate the 4 post lift, The receptacle on the right is a 220V 30 A line that I ran to provide power to the lift......

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Mr. Chevy
10-25-2015, 12:08 AM
Looks great Sam!!

Rich

Mr. Chevy
10-25-2015, 12:36 AM
Sam, is this the Cholla that your humble abode will be named after???

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/cholla.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/RICHRUTT/media/cholla.jpg.html)

CHOLLA OF THE BLACK WIDOWS!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

https://youtu.be/yXhl6TOyq3k


Rich

mockingbird812
10-26-2015, 12:48 AM
Not quite Rich. That's a hoot! I should have said my inspiration earlier. It is named for my old gal, Cholla, my Labrador Retriever. She would faithfully accompany me as I was refurbishing our garage while her younger &quot;sister&quot; tore around the back yard. She passed away back in August at the ripe old age of 13 and a half. She was a wonderful companion to be sure (that's her in the back ground) ....

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sorry for sideways photo - can't get right side up.

VintageMusclecar
10-26-2015, 01:44 AM
See if this works...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/10/full-1124-33600-cholla2.jpg

Xplantdad
10-26-2015, 01:01 PM
And you also had wonderful Cubby-who loved her Pavilions treats! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

mockingbird812
10-26-2015, 08:46 PM
You got that right Bruce! Been blesse with some incredible canine characters!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Thanks Eric!!!!

Xplantdad
10-27-2015, 02:07 AM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Zman1969
10-27-2015, 01:11 PM
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Sam Love the lights! I've been looking for one to hang outside my shop over my personal entrance door
Looking good! like all the equipment

mockingbird812
10-27-2015, 11:50 PM
Thanks Richard.

This gets mounted to the overhead (right Mikey) tomorrow with electrical and gas plumbing to follow. It is a 45K BTU &quot;Hot Dawg&quot; propane heater by Modine. This is good for up to a 2.5 car garage. With the thermostat at its lowest setting, I can keep it at 40 degrees to keep the rides happy and bump it up to 60 or so to keep me happy when out there in the winter. I'll post the details of all the hook ups when I get to them.

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mockingbird812
10-29-2015, 01:41 AM
Mounted to unistrut with help from a friend. I placed a receptacle in the ceiling near the heater to power the blower.....

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Mr. Chevy
10-29-2015, 02:30 AM
Sam, sorry to hear about your dog passing.. I know it is very tough when they go, they are just like a member of the family... Your garage is looking great!! Hopefully we won't need the heaters much this winter. I'm hoping El Nino comes through with a big bang here in Ohio!!!!

Rich

Canuck
10-29-2015, 03:43 PM
Sam
good idea to keep the heat in the garage at all times, Those Florescent lights don't want to start up when its cold, kinda like a British car.I know you are keeping a retro look but LED lights are awesome especially in the workbench areas.

Paul

mockingbird812
10-29-2015, 05:50 PM
Paul - my fluorescents are rated to start down to, I believe, 0 deg F. The garage will be well insulated when all is done (garage door is insulated too. I know what a pain most fluorescents can be in cold temps (last winter showed me that <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif !). Thanks for the heads up. LED is impressive technology and a good investment.

m22mike
10-29-2015, 09:00 PM
Sam
Nice work, what's the deal with the Hot Dawg ? Is it gas ? That thing would heat my 30x40.
FYI, I keep my stat at 45 all winter, 96W flo light fire right up.
Lookin' good Sam.

Mike

Woj
10-30-2015, 02:11 AM
Sam,

I have an 80K BTU Hot Dawg in my attached garage. It gets the job done in a hurry. You will love it.

Garage is looking great.

Phil W.

Dave Nelson
10-30-2015, 08:48 PM
Great looking shop, excellent planning.

mockingbird812
11-01-2015, 02:46 AM
Thanks - my research led me to picking a model that takes its combustion air from the outside. If there are combustibles such as gas vapor, or saw dust in the garage there is a higher likely hood of explosion if combustion air comes from within the building. External combustion air heater requires an extra vent and is a bit more expensive but gives me some piece of mind. My heater uses a concentric vent system which combines the two vents together shortly after the two vents leave the back of the heater. It is something to consider when you are putting your shop togeither.

enio45
11-01-2015, 02:18 PM
damn, i should have put one of those heaters in the AZ garage <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

nice setup sammy!!!!!!!!!

Stefano
11-02-2015, 01:11 AM
Look'in good.

mockingbird812
11-02-2015, 07:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">damn, i should have put one of those heaters in the AZ garage <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

nice setup sammy!!!!!!!!! </div></div>

I think there is enough &quot;hot air&quot; blowing around over there in Gilbert that you should be good to go! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif

Xplantdad
11-02-2015, 08:57 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

ORIGLS6
11-03-2015, 04:08 PM
Great work (and look) so far Sam. I'm guessing (since you spend some time at TGJ) you're familiar with Thomas Payne's shop. If you ever get to our neck of the woods let me know and we'll take a side trip to his place. You'll be smiling the entire time.

Love what you're doing, and FWIW, that heater will keep you and the puppies more than toasty. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
11-06-2015, 12:00 AM
Hey Dennis. thanks, if that is the shop that was an old repair shop from the 30s or so and this fellow completely restored it.....I love it! His talents are impressive! I would love to see it. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

ORIGLS6
11-06-2015, 12:42 AM
That's the one. Thomas and his wife are extremely nice people. I've been there a few times; once with my daughter. Even she enjoyed the 'tour'. He's a true car guy and even races a '66 Chevy II L-79 car in Pure Stock. The restored auto shop is amazing and I always come home with new ideas for my own place.

(See you at MCACN this year?)

mockingbird812
11-15-2015, 12:49 AM
Slow going on the plumbing for the propane heater. 1st shot is what the connections will look like above the concentric vent adapter box which passes through the attic and up to the the intake and exahaust caps that will be placed above the roof line. The top cap is the exhaust vent for the hot gases. The cap below it is the fresh air intake for an external source of combustion air. The system is called 'concentric' because the fresh air intake pipe is located external to the double wall (type B) hot exhaust air vent which runs up the center of the fresh air pipe. One advantage of this set up is that it requres only one hole through the roof. Next shot is the adapter box attached to the ceiling.

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mockingbird812
11-15-2015, 11:57 PM
More boring stuff. One reason I am posting this here is I have found very little detail on DIY install of a concentric vent system. The instructions from the manufacturer are very vague and not much help. I called the manufacturer and they would not address any of my questions because I was not an HVAC guy. I realize the seriousness and pitfalls associated with a self install and I will be getting my system inspected by the county and the propane provider to ensure a safe system. I have recently installed and successfully passed inspection for a new natural gas line in my home for a gas range.

Next few shots are of the pipes going in between the heater and the concentric adapter box.......

Dry fit of plumbing for outside air intake:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34437-image.jpg

Connecting hot gas vent with the required hight temp sealant (protection from -75 to +500 deg F)
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mockingbird812
11-17-2015, 12:42 AM
No going back! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34479-image.jpg



Think this will keep the weather out? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

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m22mike
11-17-2015, 01:16 AM
Yea, stuff some leaves around it, that will keep the snow out.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Nice work Sam <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
11-17-2015, 01:31 AM
great suggestion Mikey, I was leaning toward newspaper, but I like your idea better! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

HawkX66
11-17-2015, 02:13 PM
Just slather some roofing tar in there. It'll be fine... lol. Nice job on the professional looking install!

mockingbird812
11-17-2015, 03:15 PM
Thanks. Rain is moving in so had an early morning session to at least make the system water tight.

This in one of the critical pieces to ensuring Wx tight seal. This is a weather collar that you can manipulate to create a good seal by drawing it up tight around the outer duct pipe and securing it with fasteners ...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34495-1.jpg

After placing this flashing over the hole in the roof, I traced the oval shape of the base of inner flashing with a crayon...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34496-2.jpg

Hook blade is best, but I muddled thru with a standard box-cutter type to remove the shingles...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34497-3.jpg

Dry fit...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34498-4.jpg

Roofing/flashing glue (if you look carefully, there is a subliminal message in the pattern)
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smirk.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif ....
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34499-5.jpg

mockingbird812
11-17-2015, 03:20 PM
Dry fit of system to get it up as the rain began to fall. It won't be quite this tall as the inner hot gas vent will be sitting lower once I connect it to the concentric adapter box attached to the ceiling of my shop...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34500-6.jpg
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34504-9.jpg

mockingbird812
11-22-2015, 12:06 AM
Time to plumb the propane lines; of course under the ever watchful eye of the QC....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34667-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34668-image.jpg

mockingbird812
11-23-2015, 04:13 PM
Winter's bite is taking hold - looking forward to some warmth out here (QC, Abbey, doesn't seem to care though <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif ). Propane providers are out tomorrow for a site survey. I decided to place my pipes outside of the internal wall for that industrial look (also easier to inspect and the code folks are happier about that too). I am planning on using a 125lb tank to be placed behind the garage which I figure should last approximately one winter season. Drilling thru the brick was tough and took over an hour with a good mortar bit (and lots of breaks). Note: portions of plumbing are dry fit (near flex hose). Next up will be electrical connections (power to the heater and thermostat) ....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34693-img_5583.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34694-img_5590.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34695-img_5585.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34696-img_5587.jpg

CC Rider
11-23-2015, 06:44 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Gotta stay warm.

mockingbird812
11-24-2015, 03:31 PM
Sediment trap installed and heater electrical supply are hard wired...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34740-img_6106.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-34741-img_6107.jpg

m22mike
11-24-2015, 04:19 PM
I was going to ask you about the trap... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Mike

mockingbird812
11-24-2015, 04:36 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Postsedan
11-25-2015, 01:19 AM
Well done.....looks great <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

mockingbird812
12-01-2015, 02:06 AM
Wired the thermostat. Appointment for this Friday to leak test the lines and install the 120 gal propane tank and fire it up!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-35390-image.jpg
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-1691-35393-image.jpg

169indy
12-01-2015, 05:57 AM
Sam, Add another clamp on the pipe, Solid iron pipe gas
supply connection(s) shall be rigidly anchored within 6 inches of the supply connection(
s), just above the &quot;T&quot; would be perfect.

Great Heat install job, you will LOVE the separated combustion unit heater. I cheapped out on my install and did not spring for the extra efforts and you actually BURN heated air from the garage with conv combustion burners, waste, waste, waste.

JIM

mockingbird812
12-01-2015, 06:51 PM
Jim,

Glad to see the pros chiming in. This will only make these threads better. Thanks for the tip. I used standard sized gas pipes (4 and 10' sections) to keep it simple and my supply end connection came down between wall studs. I did not wish to just use wall anchors through the drywall to secure the pipe so, I will place a 1x4 between two studs beneath the supply connection and anchor the pipe to this board for a solid attachment.

mockingbird812
12-01-2015, 11:16 PM
Intake/exhaust system is sized, sealed, and fixed in place...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35439-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35440-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35441-image.jpg

mockingbird812
12-03-2015, 11:40 PM
We have ignition! Propane was installed a day early....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35614-image.jpg

Before:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35615-image.jpg

After:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35616-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35617-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-35618-image.jpg

dykstra
12-08-2015, 02:58 AM
Looking great!!

Mr. Chevy
12-18-2015, 12:53 AM
Sam, make sure those trees stay healthy above and around your building... That was always my worst fear at our old house was that a branch was going to come through the garage roof and destroy one of the cars... I have no large trees at our new home around the outbuilding....

Rich

mockingbird812
12-19-2015, 03:20 AM
You're right Rich. Always a risk. The trees in and around the garage are real healthy at this point.

Mounted a few more ceiling fixtures and placed a vertical diffuser on the heater for better distribution....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36400-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36401-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36402-image.jpg

Damien
12-21-2015, 06:15 AM
Sam, awesome job. Your shop looks great! How long will the 120 gallons of propane last?

dykstra
12-21-2015, 03:03 PM
Sam, I like your tool box. I have the same one!!

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 04:15 PM
Damien - it is kind of a guess at this point. I filled it up for about $160-. We have mild/moderate winters in Ohio, with ave temps around 35 deg F (however, last winter saw us below 0 deg F on several occasions <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif ). I plan to keep the thermostat at 45 deg unless I am working in there (mostly weekends and I would probably set it at 60 deg +/-). Propane guys think I will have to fill it once maybe 2/3 thru the winter. If I can get away with around $200 for the winter, I will be a happy camper. I have yet to blow in my attic insulation which will help immensely - shooting for an R38 value up there.

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 04:17 PM
Dave - I like it a bunch. I never have had a real tool box to put my tools in collectively. I waited for a killer price ($699 IIRC?) for both pieces. It is the HD version and operates smoothly. Now I am trying to justify $379 (on sale) for the hang-on cabinet for more tool storage! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

Specialty tools will go in other cabinets and I just bought (waited for a sale of course) Craftsman powdercoated metal peg board system to add a bit of color to the shop...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36461-spin_prod_221739201.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36465-2.jpg

m22mike
12-21-2015, 04:42 PM
Sam, when your all done I would be glad to come down and knock the shine off that place for you <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif all you need is a project.

Mike

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 04:47 PM
Ha! - I'm sure you would Mikey and I will be happy to oblige <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif . I do have some projects planned. Nothing big like the old days (yet)! Chevelle needs some tending to (thinking about pulling the motor and going thru it). I will be working in earnest soon to return her to her D2 glory as I have been collecting parts - may have to give Grady a call on some of the harder-to-find pieces <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

VintageMusclecar
12-21-2015, 06:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Chevelle needs some tending to (thinking about pulling the motor and going thru it)....</div></div>

So, eh....how fast U wann'a go? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 06:52 PM
Eric - Don't think I won't be tapping into your stellar consulting abilities!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Think you could squeeze 450HP with a stock rebuild? A bit of work already done - have of a 3 angle valve job done back in the day to prep for the 'strip.

VintageMusclecar
12-21-2015, 07:52 PM
I can make however much you want me to make. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Are you going to run manifolds or headers?

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 08:20 PM
Headers. Would like to go with Hedman if possible as that is what was run on it back in its early years. As a back up, I think it would be neat to run Super Scavengers, but I understand they do not flow as well as others (but sure sound good!).

VintageMusclecar
12-21-2015, 09:28 PM
Good choice on the Hedmans. That's what I have on my Chevelle and not only do they fit well, but they made the best power over two other sets of headers I tested.

Auto or 4 speed, and what rear gear?

(We can take this to PM if you'd rather not tangent off topic)

mockingbird812
12-21-2015, 10:46 PM
How about we go to the thread on my Chevelle to &quot;talk&quot; about L78 builds. I expect others will find it useful and entertaining....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=246743#Post2467 43

By the way: M21 and 3.73 gears.

SuperNovaSS
12-22-2015, 04:56 AM
Looks great! !20 gallons of Propane costs for $160? WTF??? I pay MUCH more.


Jason

mockingbird812
12-22-2015, 03:27 PM
Jason - $1.45 gal and they can only fill the 120 gal to 90% due to gas expansion. My $160- for my initial fill up is for 108 gallons. When I checked around my area, there was a wide-wide variation prices. Most had &quot;low&quot; introductory prices but then escalated quickly (i.e. over $3.00). My company uses market rate always - what a concept. Moral of the story....shop around! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

markinnaples
12-22-2015, 04:18 PM
Dang, last fill up of our LP tank cost me about $4 a gallon (Sept), what the heck?

We have a couple suppliers here, but they are all owned by the same company and charge the same price.

mockingbird812
12-28-2015, 02:39 PM
Lori and I hit some of the local antique and second hand shops over the weekend and picked up a couple of items. First are Chromcraft (been in business since '62 and just went out of business <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif ) chairs from late 60s early 70s with classic &quot;Avocado&quot; green vinyl seats - they appear to have been barely used. The cabinet is a Niehoff ignition parts cabinet that needs just a bit of cleaning up - no frame off resto though! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36727-img_6770.jpg
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36732-img_6773.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36733-img_6774.jpg

chevyman0429
12-28-2015, 03:04 PM
What a great find those seats are amazing. Iv been looking for vintage cabinets like that for some time now just for decorating the man cave there out there but people want a small fortune for them. Great finds

Mike

olredalert
12-28-2015, 03:12 PM
----Those seats are so cool I'm not sure I could bring myself to sit on them.......Bill S

mockingbird812
12-28-2015, 07:25 PM
Mike - Vintage cabinets are crazy expensive these days even when they look like my newest acquisition <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif. They are a hot ticket so you will have to poke around to find a decent deal. They are almost akin to the vintage signs regarding price. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

ssl78
12-29-2015, 01:12 AM
I have 3 of the cabinets I would sell

68l30
12-29-2015, 01:19 AM
Love the chairs Sam, I think they need to be in my garage next to my Camaro..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

BIG

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-105-36761-image.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-105-36762-image.jpg

mockingbird812
12-29-2015, 02:08 AM
Hmmm Big, you may be on to something!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

MosportGreen66
12-29-2015, 01:16 PM
Nice look Sam!

Now what is that truck looking thing beside the red cabinet?

mockingbird812
12-29-2015, 01:43 PM
Dan - Kwhizz is talking me thru an LS swap for my wife's '71 Steyr-Puch Pinzgauer. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/12/full-1691-36764-image.jpg

bbbentley
01-01-2016, 05:25 PM
I don't see no AIR METER Sam?

68l30
01-01-2016, 07:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmm Big, you may be on to something!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif </div></div>

Lol, my garage is full! I love following along with yours though......Truck looks like lots of smiles!

BIG

mockingbird812
01-01-2016, 09:31 PM
Big - I always enjoy following others garage projects and anticipating updates too. Just wanted to give back a bit.

Bentley - haven't had time to do the mechanical restoration of &quot;your&quot; Air Meter with all of the STUFF going on. Should be able to get to it this winter with a warm garage now! Lori's truck is a blast. Get more people stopping me than ANY muscle car I've ever had!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

bbbentley
01-01-2016, 11:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Lori's truck is a blast. Get more people stopping me than ANY muscle car I've ever had!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

If a guy wants to learn how to enjoy life and get the most out of their life, hang around Sam a while! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
01-04-2016, 02:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 3 of the cabinets I would sell </div></div>

John forwarded some shots of his cabinets (3) and they look great. If you are looking for this kind of thing, give John a jingle.

Damien
01-04-2016, 08:32 PM
Love those Chromcraft chairs Sam, very cool! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
06-13-2016, 03:16 PM
Slow going, but progress is progress. I attached my shelves low on the wall for practical reasons to maximize stacking of containers as storage is at a premium. Visually, I don't particularly care for this as it closes the garage in a bit (and minimizes wall space for all the cool memorabilia I have collected/inherited over the years). I had an outfit custom make (reasonable) the HD wire mesh as I liked the strength, minimizes shadows, and the industrial look. I thought they would be more rigid but this type of mesh is suited to industrial shelving with metal frames. In my setup they flex too much so I had to use an anchoring system (1/8&quot; x 1&quot; flat stock) to hold the mesh firmly to the braces. Seems to work. Braces are rated to 500lbs (H. Depot) and should now allow me to put a fairly heavy load up there if needed. Shelving will wrap around 2.5 walls.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/06/full-1691-44791-img_7956.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/06/full-1691-44792-img_7957.jpg
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/06/full-1691-44794-img_7954.jpg

68l30
06-13-2016, 04:16 PM
Nice!!!

I'm diggin the vintage Craftsman DP and what's that....a Columbian 603 on the bench?? Gotta share that piece....


BIG

mockingbird812
06-13-2016, 05:29 PM
BIG,

Have been using my &quot;new&quot; DP and I love it. Nicely (over) engineered! I have dated it back to the late 40's. The vise is a 604. You must really like it cause you mentioned it at the beginning of the thread too!! (yeah, I know that was ages ago <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif!!) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/06/full-1691-44797-full_1691_33070_image.jpg

DarrenX33
06-13-2016, 06:06 PM
Very nice Sam..

68l30
06-13-2016, 06:08 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

LOL, I have a hard time remembering yesterday sometimes.

I have a weakness for vises, stupid I know. I'm restoring a Wilton Baby bullet and another Columbian currently. Love how slow you can wind that DP down and do some metal work. The deco look is a bonus for sure.


BIG

earntaz
06-13-2016, 08:42 PM
Kahuna vice for sure ...

mockingbird812
06-14-2016, 01:33 AM
Thanks Craig.

BIG, I get your &quot;weakness for vises&quot;. I have a few different ones too, like unusual Mallory dizzies, coils, CDI, capacitors, etc .

cook_dw
06-15-2016, 03:21 PM
Great looking shop Sam.. Love the Columbian also..

njsteve
06-22-2016, 10:53 AM
We all have our particular vices. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif (pun fully intended)

mockingbird812
08-02-2016, 01:23 PM
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">&quot;We all have our particular vices. naughty (pun fully intended)&quot;</span></span>

Ain't that right McGyver (whether we admit it or not <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif)!

Cleaned up the Niehoff cabinet and installed it and put up some more shelving. I will be ordering my 4 post lift soon.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1691-47200-img_8087.jpg
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mockingbird812
08-02-2016, 01:28 PM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1691-47203-img_8957.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1691-47204-img_0366.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1691-47205-img_0358.jpg

68l30
08-04-2016, 01:31 AM
Great looking Niehoff cabinet! I have a Holley that is similar and added some old skool file drawers to the inside. They sit on the shelves, but make storing small items easy.

I'd post a pic, but my phone still won't let me ... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif

BIG

mockingbird812
08-05-2016, 03:42 PM
Yeah Big, I'm still having same problems loading photos from my iphone or ipad, even since updating to latest ios this week - Arrrggghh!

Any way, one of my goals for the shop (directly associated with my OCD tendencies <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif) is to have all (most) of my cabinets, shelves, machines, tables, etc. on wheels so that clean up is easier to do. I retrofitted a simple design (no welding required) to incorporate wheels to this vintage cabinet. I needed short wheels due to tight overhead space beneath the shelves which resulted in a lower load capacity for each wheel. So I added an extra set of wheels for a total of 6 wheels at a load capacity of 80lbs per wheel. I will be putting some heavy items in this cabinet, so 480lb capacity should do the trick (the cabinet is heavy by itself) ...

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1691-47310-img_8973.jpg
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earntaz
08-05-2016, 10:06 PM
Super idea ...

mockingbird812
08-06-2016, 12:39 AM
Just fits with a 1/4&quot; to spare <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif ......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsdxqykt9u.jpeg

mockingbird812
09-03-2016, 01:53 AM
Had the upper rails of the garage door raised about 7 inches to best utilize the capabilities of my lift. I ordered my 4 post lift which I hope to have installed in about 2 weeks. Still a few things to finish first though. I am having a local old school hydraulic/pneumatic shop build my shop compressor for me to my specs (WAY TOO MUCH CHINCY CHINESE COMPRESSORS OUT THERE!). It'll be just a bit more than the new Chinese models but will be built with quality made-in-USA parts and they are local for warranty and service. That'll be done in couple of weeks. In the mean time I will run the copper piping for air lines throughout the shop. The last couple of days I started putting up the wainscoting....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zps5ljl2fw0.jpeg
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Canuck
09-03-2016, 02:14 AM
Love the look!

m22mike
09-05-2016, 12:27 AM
Nice. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

PxTx
09-05-2016, 03:19 AM
Lot of great style Sam. Thanks for sharing
Hopefully I'll be able to do something like this in another 2 years.

mockingbird812
09-05-2016, 04:18 PM
Thanks! The east wall wainscoting is done allowing the installation of the 4 post lift which will be tucked in pretty close to that wall. Coming from a large shop in AZ to this relatively small 2.5 car garage has been an adjustment and a good challenge for me. It has felt good to neck down my collection and exteraneous &quot;stuff&quot; that comes with it and fit my operation into a smaller space. It has forced me to be more efficient in managing my space and to determine how and how much I can store. It's all good (that's my story, and I'm sticking to it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif )

Now on to the air lines for the compressor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsjctpbfio.jpeg

markinnaples
09-06-2016, 02:14 PM
Looks great, especially with that wainscoting in metal, and the copper air lines is going to look pretty retro or steam-punk cool. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
09-06-2016, 06:40 PM
<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;steam-punk cool...&quot; </span>Yeah, that's the ticket! I like the sound of that!

mockingbird812
09-08-2016, 12:28 PM
I visited my air compressor builder yesterday (should be completed with the compressor next week) and got some good ideas wrt installing the system. I will be hanging my air lines mostly exposed (for the look) and got into a discussion of dissimilar metals. I had planned on using unistrut with their steel pipe hangers. He said that was a no-no as the copper air lines would eventually corrode. He is into the vintage look too and suggested this....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsmrcgcsz7.jpeg

These are hung from a galvanized flange with all-thread.

JBALL
09-08-2016, 02:02 PM
Nice look Sam!

mockingbird812
09-08-2016, 11:39 PM
I visited the recommended plumbing supply outfit after work today. Great old-school (family owned since 1954) shop. Picked up some items to mount my air lines. I plan to use brass screws to mount the flanges to the overhead for some nice contrast ....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zps2lkausyp.jpeg

Xplantdad
09-09-2016, 02:17 AM
Neat stuff Sam! Miss seeing you out here in AZ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

markinnaples
09-09-2016, 02:38 PM
That's really going to look cool, can't wait to see it done.

mockingbird812
09-12-2016, 12:56 AM
A little headway on prep for the compressor. This is where the compressor will connect into the air lines...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsuh79seau.jpeg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpshkmkrwz3.jpeg

mockingbird812
09-14-2016, 06:43 PM
Picked this up the other day for the shop &quot;library&quot; and of course added wheels to it (Bureau of Mines had it before me)....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-1691-48784-img_9297.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-1691-48785-img_9298.jpg

m22mike
09-14-2016, 07:48 PM
Nice Sam <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif now you have some copper to polish.

Mike

olredalert
09-14-2016, 09:59 PM
----Got the exact same cabinet and am using it for exactly the same thing, Sam!.....Bill S

mockingbird812
09-14-2016, 11:00 PM
Great minds, Bill..... Great minds!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

mockingbird812
09-19-2016, 09:33 PM
4 post is up and the Chevelle is tucked up into the ceiling!......


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsefhbkxpk.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpssjbmg9s9.jpeg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Workshop%20-%20Dayton/image_zpsfaasunrw.jpeg

Canuck
09-19-2016, 10:09 PM
Now that is using your space to the max!

Mr.Nickey Nova
09-24-2016, 09:06 PM
Way too close for me!!

mockingbird812
09-24-2016, 10:00 PM
Mark. I knew what I was in for regarding my relatively close margins, but really wanted the extra car storage. I had the garage door rails raised by 7 inches and needed it. The photo makes it look closer than it actually is (there is 6 inches above the high point of the hood beneath the garage door support). I definitely have to pay attention when raising the Chevelle into its nest though. I have cheat marks by the lift controls that show me the &quot;go-no-higher-than-this&quot; point when raising the Chevelle.

mockingbird812
10-12-2016, 03:26 PM
Compressor is done and plumbed in. Nice and quiet and fills the tank very quickly with its little 4 cylinder &quot;Emglo&quot; (made in Johnstown, PA <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif). Compressor is mobile with quick disconnect air line for mobile ops and shop clean up. I have a leak at my overhead hose reel that I will have to track down - most likely a seal. All else is ship-shape.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50407-img_9609.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50408-img_9387.jpg

earntaz
10-12-2016, 05:49 PM
Looks to me there is too much camber in the right front -- you'll tear off the inside edge SOON!!! TAZ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

Xplantdad
10-12-2016, 07:55 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks to me there is too much camber in the right front -- you'll tear off the inside edge SOON!!! TAZ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif </div></div>


LOL!!

mockingbird812
10-13-2016, 12:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks to me there is too much camber in the right front -- you'll tear off the inside edge SOON!!! TAZ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif </div></div>

Yeah, but she is a bear in the twisties! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

Ryan1969Chevelle
10-13-2016, 12:18 AM
I haven't seen copper for air, looks great.

Is the section with all the elbows back and forth to cool the air?

Ryan

mockingbird812
10-13-2016, 01:23 AM
Ryan,

I have used copper in two shops and like it for its ease of sizing, strength, connecting (sweating is relatively easy to learn), and most importantly it looks vintage cool. It may not be the cheapest option but it is safe. I used 3/4&quot; ID pipe and it is &quot;L&quot; grade which is one step up from the standard &quot;M&quot;. It is about 40% stronger than M grade (H Depot carries both). It provides a thicker wall and added buffer of protection (compressed air can be dangerous!).

You're right - The back and forth is to cool the recently compressed air (which is hot) prior to going down-range. I have drains and filters at multiple places around the loop and other collection points to reduce likelhood that water and debris gets to the lift or tools. That back-and-forth section is good for over 8 feet of travel (12&quot; sections) and should cool things down to minimize condensation. For some reason I did not have much of an issue with condensation in AZ!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

Ryan1969Chevelle
10-13-2016, 02:11 AM
Makes sense, agree the look is worth a little more:-)

What psi rating is L grade? I am used to schedule 40 or schedule 80... always lots to learn

Ryan

mockingbird812
10-13-2016, 01:13 PM
Hey Ryan,

psi rating is dependent on temperature, inside diameter, and some other variables. M Type will most likely be adequate for a home shop (250+ psi under most sizes/conditions). As mentioned before, I used K type for a bit more safety margin. Here is a great resource (with lots of pictures!) on all things copper tubing:

&quot;Copper Tube Handbook&quot; (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0ahUK Ewju3JKg69fPAhVDQiYKHduQBJQQFggcMAA&amp;url=https%3A%2 F%2Fwww.copper.org%2Fpublications%2Fpub_list%2Fpdf %2Fcopper_tube_handbook.pdf&amp;usg=AFQjCNGqo8QS9upzoF LlK2C_SeZwvUwZ-g&amp;sig2=4sLrpF8Eqt5_3vYXD4Jisg)

Ryan1969Chevelle
10-13-2016, 03:49 PM
copper.org :-)

Ryan

markinnaples
10-13-2016, 09:19 PM
Love that copper tubing, looks old, old school and just pretty cool.

cook_dw
10-18-2016, 12:16 PM
Love the shop.. I enjoy seeing what others are doing and getting ideas of what I want or dont want when I am able. I will be so happy when we sell our current home and find or build the next one.. I want to do an old barn and turn that into a shop.

mockingbird812
10-19-2016, 12:52 AM
Thanks guys. Finished making my drill press mobile. It moves around very smoothly and easily. These wheels are rated at 120 lbs a piece. It is not quite as stable as I would like as there is a bit of flex in the tires, but I think it will work if I lock the wheels and swivel action so that the wheels are at their widest stance (last photo below). We'll see.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50706-img_9687.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50695-img_9688.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50696-img_9690.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50697-img_9691.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50698-img_9699.jpg

mockingbird812
10-21-2016, 02:15 PM
File this under the category of <span style="font-style: italic">fixing-rather-than-replacing </span>or <span style="font-style: italic">I'm-too-cheap-to-buy-a-new-air-reel</span>… I tracked down the air leak at my overhead air reel. I bought this air reel for my shop in Arizona 12 years ago and it has worked well since then. After I moved here to Ohio and set up my compressed air lines is when I discovered the reel had a significant leak (am guessing the different climates were a factor <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif) . When I took apart the brass block with the banjo bolt passing through the center, I saw that the two o-rings that seal this area were compressed and very hard. The pneumatic/hydraulic shop that I use provided me with two hi tech replacement O-rings. Each of these has 4 ridges to better your chances of creating an air tight seal. Even though I detected a couple of slightly worn depressions inside where the O-rings contact the brass block, these new high-tech o-rings have done the trick. Tight as a drum! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50804-img_9714.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50805-img_9622.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50806-img_9625.jpg

Here is one of two o-rings to be replaced. Shop owner recommended a &quot;monkey snot&quot; to help with the sealing.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-1691-50808-img_9721.jpg

bbbentley
10-30-2016, 01:43 AM
Some folks are blessed with the ability to achieve perfection (or close to it) ! Sam is just such a fella! I visited Sam recently. A real nice shop. I have never seen a man cave with an African flare? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif lol

mockingbird812
10-30-2016, 12:35 PM
Ha! It was great hanging out Bentley. Yes my betrothed spent a good part of her childhood abroad including Southwest Africa (Namibia today). Mixing and matching is my mantra in the shop - lots of themes! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

mockingbird812
12-03-2016, 01:06 AM
A little progress in the work bench area. I picked up these old oak interior shutters last week and thought they would fit the tone in my shop. The peg board is Craftsman's relatively new system ....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53513-img_0206.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53508-img_0205.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53509-img_0207.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53510-img_0208.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53511-img_0210.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53512-img_0211.jpg

mockingbird812
12-06-2016, 12:59 AM
Shutters refinished (preserving vintage crazed varnish look) and installed....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53722-img_0232.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53723-img_0234.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53725-img_0236.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-1691-53726-img_0218.jpg

mockingbird812
01-21-2017, 01:14 AM
I tabled my &quot;intercom&quot; project about a year ago as I could not figure why my large Western Electric wall mount phone would not transmit. Tonight I traced the problem down (broken solder joint on the push-to-talk mechanism) and all systems are a GO. Next is to set up the house portion of this intercom with another Western Electric (desktop handset with separate metal battery box). Now the Mrs can get a hold of me to come in and do my chores that I am most likely avoiding! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2017/01/full-1691-56417-img_0741.jpg

Ryan1969Chevelle
01-21-2017, 02:40 AM
Give her a soup can and a string:-)

Ryan

wheelhop
01-23-2017, 02:42 AM
Like the Niehoff cabinet. One of my buddies works at CE Niehoff in Chicago area which makes alternators for large government and military vehicles.

Woj
01-24-2017, 04:43 AM
Great looking shop Sam. You've given me some good ideas.

Phil Woj. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
01-25-2017, 05:44 PM
As I was inspired by other guys' shops (here and at Garage Journal), glad others can pick up a thing or two. So, I am taking it that everyone will have vintage wooden phones as intercom? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Last night I installed the main house intercom that connects to the shop. When you turn the hand crank on the top box, it rings this box and the phone out in the shop. It'll make napping under the cars a bit more of a challenge as these bells are <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">LOUD</span></span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif! It is a different setup with a distinct upscale handset! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif Also pictured (hanging off of the wooden crate) is the metal battery box which powers this system. Only needs 3 volts and about 20ma to operate.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2017/01/full-1691-56693-img_2691.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2017/01/full-1691-56694-img_0781.jpg

Canuck
01-25-2017, 05:49 PM
I usually get a text message!

68l30
01-25-2017, 08:29 PM
Very nice Sam.... Looks great!

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif


BIG

Mr. Chevy
01-30-2017, 11:19 PM
Looks very nice Sam...

Rich

mockingbird812
03-08-2017, 03:05 PM
Next shop project, coming soon....

Look familiar Bentley?

PxTx
03-08-2017, 03:48 PM
Hopefully you're not turning the air station into a "mini-glass-bead cabinet".:smirk:

68l30
03-08-2017, 05:28 PM
Wall mount or pedestal? Love my ECO!! I did one years ago....

BIG

mockingbird812
03-08-2017, 07:04 PM
Hmmm, Paul may be on to something!

BIG - this is an Eco 97 wall mount (floor space is tight). Innards look better than the exterior would lead you to believe. I'll give it a complete cosmetic and mechanical resto. Show me your finished ECO for a bit of inspiration!

mockingbird812
03-09-2017, 06:46 PM
The Eco 9X series of balanced tire inflators debuted in 1947. Mine is a 1948 model and has a lot of unique early design features which were changed (improved? i.e. plastic air lines replaced copper/steel bell replaced brass!) in future versions. There is a pretty robust following of these including restoration components. Can you say Pneuma-Mechanical Beast?! Starting point:

mockingbird812
03-09-2017, 06:49 PM
I blew it apart over the last few evenings (notice a quick buff of the brass bell brightened things up a bit). The unit is a nice mix of brass, copper, pot metal, cast iron, anodized fasteners, porcelain, etc.....

Canuck
03-09-2017, 11:19 PM
Nice item Sam, I had no idea they were so complex inside.

Paul

68l30
03-10-2017, 01:28 AM
Sam, mines a Eco 98. It was a "Rescue" as it was found in the weeds after being knocked over. I got it from a buddy, pre restoration, after making and welding in some floor pans for his Chevelle. With the exception of the trim and glass, it's all gennie parts.

BIG

68l30
03-10-2017, 01:59 AM
Any clue as to when this was made?

BIG

mockingbird812
03-10-2017, 02:39 AM
BIG - I sent your tag photo off to THE ECO guru, Jack Sim. I'll see what he has to say.

Thnx for posting a shot of your 98 - she's a beaut!

68l30
03-10-2017, 02:48 AM
Thx Sam!

I'd love to crack mine open.....but, it was a PITA to close up. Hope yours fits better than mine!!

BIG

mockingbird812
03-10-2017, 01:28 PM
Hey BIG,

Jack says your Eco was "born in 1965". I'll see if he'll divulge the code of how dates break down.

68l30
03-10-2017, 02:37 PM
Thank You Sam! That's pretty cool, I figured it was newer than that.


BIG

mockingbird812
03-10-2017, 03:46 PM
Nice item Sam, I had no idea they were so complex inside.

Paul

Paul,

I'm learning that their complexity (an old design by the way dating back to the early 20th century) is a result of the fact that these machines can be highly accurate and reliable with minimal maintenance and adjustments required. They meter out their air one psi at a time (each bell ring) and you are able to adjust it to be spot on for the target pressure (easily w/i 1 psi). They are a sight to behold with the mechanical movements of the levers, puffs of air, and the bell ringing. When I finish this, I intend to leave the back cover off to provide a bit of entertainment while the tireflator is operating.

Canuck
03-10-2017, 05:16 PM
Sam, you have me inspired to find another shop artifact.

Paul

mockingbird812
03-10-2017, 05:25 PM
Yes Paul - you NEED one in that shop you are putting together. It would be right at home!

mockingbird812
03-12-2017, 09:21 PM
Parts refurbishment is coming along. I am waiting for some rebuild kits and other hardware.

68l30
03-12-2017, 09:47 PM
Looking GOOD!


BIG

mockingbird812
03-19-2017, 03:36 PM
Close to going back together…

mockingbird812
03-20-2017, 12:54 AM
I am using my (non-perfect) original porcelain face as the repros printing is not accurate to the early models like mine. Sweet little mechanical design to advance the psi's. 5lbs is the smallest amount that this system is accurate.

mockingbird812
03-21-2017, 02:22 PM
Received rebuild kits for diaphragm, o-rings, gaskets, clips, specialized fasteners, etc...

mockingbird812
03-23-2017, 11:45 PM
The tireflator is operational! I still have to calibrate it, but no leaks so far. I took the frame, wall mount, and outer cowl pieces to the powder coater last week and should see those pieces back in a week or so. Here's a still shot and Bruce will help me post a short video of the meter in action later on...

Postsedan
03-24-2017, 01:51 AM
Very nice, love it :D

She is going to give you a lifetime of service.

Dan

Xplantdad
03-24-2017, 02:39 AM
Here's Sam's video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lAMWORJsY&feature=youtu.be

m22mike
03-24-2017, 02:41 AM
Very cool piece Sam...:biggthumpup:

Canuck
03-24-2017, 04:31 PM
Sam for President, he has found a way to manage inflation!

mockingbird812
04-14-2017, 01:43 AM
A bit of progress and a small change of direction. I decided to not powder coat the frame (aka the harp) as it is aluminum. So I media blasted it at the base auto hobby shop and have decided to polish it up since it will provide a nice bright contrast between the two shell halves. I've noticed a few other restorers have gone this direction and I like the results. The two shrouds and the base should be done (powder coated red) next week (slow going with this vendor),

enio45
04-19-2017, 07:26 AM
Nice work Sam!!

mockingbird812
04-19-2017, 02:15 PM
Thanks Eddie. Finished up the last of the wainscoting. I opted for some cool old tongue-and-groove painted wood flooring (patina and all) vs. the corrugated steel I used on the other side of the garage...

bbbentley
04-19-2017, 02:33 PM
Sammy, looking real good! As far as the ECO looking familiar? Not any longer, I'd say. You will have to redo my other one and my islander. You do great work! I wonder what the date is on my other one(s). Everything you tackle is done 1st rate. WOW!

mockingbird812
05-19-2017, 01:28 AM
Powder coated parts FINALLY back.

Xplantdad
05-19-2017, 01:55 AM
Looks great Sam!:headbang:

Ryan1969Chevelle
05-19-2017, 02:03 AM
Sam for President, he has found a way to manage inflation!

Best response of 2017:-)

Ryan

HawkX66
05-19-2017, 12:19 PM
Powder coated parts FINALLY back.
You really did a beautiful resto on that pump. Congrats. :beers:

68l30
05-19-2017, 04:24 PM
Looks killer, very nice job Sam!

BIG

m22mike
05-19-2017, 06:03 PM
You do great work Sam...time to do a car now...:hmmm:

Mr. Chevy
05-20-2017, 12:31 AM
Looks great Sam!!

Rich

A12pilot
05-24-2017, 02:22 PM
That looks awesome!! Nicely done!!! :Can-I-Have-It:

Cheers

Dave

396L78canuck
05-24-2017, 08:05 PM
Nice job Bob

mockingbird812
05-25-2017, 12:47 AM
Thanks guys. Yeah Canuck's comment was pretty punny! "....he has found a way to manage inflation"

I mounted the air meter to the wall this evening. I may have mentioned before that I wanted to place the meter on the wall so that I could show the back end when it operates as it is a neat little mechanical symphony with bells and all. I considered a mirror on the wall with the back clam shell left off the meter, but finally settled on this hinge system

enio45
05-30-2017, 04:27 AM
I like :-)