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caj
11-15-2015, 02:58 PM
Hey Everyone. Well...here is the final chapter to my saga that started this last May. Some of you may remember my 1970 Challenger R/T SE here. I had previously mentioned Scott Smith (Harms) and his assistance with everything. He is a GREAT guy and tried to help me with the numerous issues throughout these past months and he actually found a buyer for the R/T SE for me. Scott also helped me find a FANTASTIC 70 Challenger R/T that has absolutely NO issues what-so-ever, owned by Dave West. Scott had known Dave from the work he had done for him over the years and Scott was also one of the judges that did a rigorous OE inspection on Dave's car at MATS (Mopars at the Strip in Vegas) a few years back. Scott personally vouched for this car and gave it a HUGE thumbs up. I'm sure that some of you have seen this car and may even know Dave West. Dave knew what I had been through (with my last purchase) and personally delivered my new Challenger to my front door because he knew that I was still gun-shy. He did so with only my word that I would purchase it on my approval upon final inspection.....no down payment. He was that confident in his Challenger and I'm sure that Scott told him that I was a stand up guy and could be trusted. Dave is also a great person that is all for the hobby. These two guys (along with many of you) are what makes this a GREAT hobby and have restored my faith in it. Kudos to Scott Smith and Dave West.
So here it is....what do you guys think? It was personally fully inspected my Galen Govier and totally authentic with all numbers matching. Per Galen's full report, it is 1 of only 2 Dodge Challenger U code(s) to have a shaker hood. The second one is black but has lost it's original drivetrain many years ago. The color combo, from what has been said and researched, is a 1 of 1. Together, this makes this one rare Challenger. The Challenger runs and drives fantastic....my wife and I both love it.

Previously, I have received emails from some of you guys here and wanted to give you all an update. Hope you all like it.

Craig

caj
11-15-2015, 03:03 PM
A few more pictures.

cudino
11-15-2015, 05:33 PM
Beautiful car Craig! I saw it when it came out to the MATS show and it was just striking. Very unusual color combo, top notch restoration, and that extremely rare 70 Challenger shaker hood option! You are exactly right about Scott and Dave, and you've got every right to be proud of your very cool car. Congrats!

- Wade

njsteve
11-15-2015, 05:45 PM
Very cool car. I remember seeing this car before and was amazed at how uniquely optioned it was. What is the paint color/code?

caj
11-15-2015, 06:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cudino</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beautiful car Craig! I saw it when it came out to the MATS show and it was just striking. Very unusual color combo, top notch restoration, and that extremely rare 70 Challenger shaker hood option! You are exactly right about Scott and Dave, and you've got every right to be proud of your very cool car. Congrats!

- Wade </div></div>

Thanks Wade. I cannot say enough about Scott and Dave. Both are extremely knowledgeable. Dave is working on a car for someone now that hopefully should be at MATS next spring. Don't want to spoil the grand opening so I'm not going to say what it is, but I can't wait to see it. Too bad it's not going to be ready for MCACN.

caj
11-15-2015, 06:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very cool car. I remember seeing this car before and was amazed at how uniquely optioned it was. What is the paint color/code? </div></div>

Thanks Steve. The color code is DY3.

Xplantdad
11-15-2015, 06:14 PM
Beautiful Challenger!!

John
11-15-2015, 06:57 PM
...Wow ....Nice car <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

caj
11-15-2015, 08:44 PM
Thanks Xplantdad and John for your comments.

bergy
11-15-2015, 08:45 PM
Love it!!!

caj
11-15-2015, 08:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Love it!!! </div></div>

Thanks a lot bergy.

njsteve
11-15-2015, 09:36 PM
DY3 = Dodge &quot;Cream&quot;, Plymouth &quot;Yellow Gold&quot;, or Chrysler &quot;Antique Ivory&quot;

Stefano
11-15-2015, 09:42 PM
Very Nice, congrats!

427TJ
11-15-2015, 09:47 PM
Refreshingly unusual color scheme. Love it!

mockingbird812
11-15-2015, 10:26 PM
Neat neat NEAT! Love the combo. Great looking Mopar. Congrats Craig!!!

novadude
11-15-2015, 11:56 PM
Cool color combo!

Tracker1
11-16-2015, 01:11 AM
MMmmmmmm - looks like a big 'ol slice of cherry banana pie

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-3497-34447-cherry.jpg

PeteLeathersac
11-16-2015, 02:43 AM
W<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifW and pass me a slice!
Congrats!
~ Pete
C<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Tenney
11-16-2015, 02:52 AM
Cool car/colors - good score! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

442w30
11-16-2015, 06:05 AM
If you guys dig the OP's car, check this one out:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/18/65/27/dy3__f10.jpg

However, I must take issue with the &quot;1 or 2&quot; comment - that's from Galen's Registry, so that means it's 1 of 2 known 440-4 Shakers in his registry. To the non-Mopar fans out there, Shakers are much more common on 440 Six Pack and Hemi Challenger R/Ts, but the single 4bbl. Shaker units were slow to trickle out to the public in 1970.

As far as the color combo, there's no way to know it's 1 of 1 because Chrysler's records didn't keep option combinations, but red stripes are quite rare for any color (usually found on white and black cars), and DY3 is already quite rare for the R/T.

68l30
11-16-2015, 11:01 AM
Stunning examples here of &quot;different is good&quot; !!!! MY favorite color on the 70's has always been B5....Wheel covers and body side molding .... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif


BIG

JpMotorsports
11-16-2015, 12:46 PM
Very cool car glad your story ends with a happy ending

caj
11-16-2015, 12:58 PM
Thanks Stefano

caj
11-16-2015, 01:03 PM
agree 427TJ. When my wife and I saw the pictures....we weren't too sure if we would like it. Scott Smith assured me that the pictures do not do the car justice and that it absolutely pops when you see it. His words about this car is that &quot;this is one of the nicest Challengers on the planet&quot;. She is an absolute stunner and different. Thanks for your reply.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:05 PM
Thanks a lot mockingbird812. Definitely a great combo. I think that Jaguars used that combo way back when.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DY3 = Dodge &quot;Cream&quot;, Plymouth &quot;Yellow Gold&quot;, or Chrysler &quot;Antique Ivory&quot; </div></div>

That's correct Steve.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool color combo! </div></div>

Glad you like novadude. Not too many years ago I owned a 70 Nova L78 4 speed paint code 75. Manual steering, no radio, rubber floors. Purchased for speed only. BTW....all #'s matching. It was a great car.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MMmmmmmm - looks like a big 'ol slice of cherry banana pie

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-3497-34447-cherry.jpg
</div></div>

LOL....you got it buddy. Sure does!!!

caj
11-16-2015, 01:19 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
W<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifW and pass me a slice!
Congrats!
~ Pete
C<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

HaHaHa...Thanks Pete




</div></div>

caj
11-16-2015, 01:21 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool car/colors - good score! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Thanks Tenney. I finally scored a good one!!!

caj
11-16-2015, 01:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you guys dig the OP's car, check this one out:

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/12/18/65/27/dy3__f10.jpg

However, I must take issue with the &quot;1 or 2&quot; comment - that's from Galen's Registry, so that means it's 1 of 2 known 440-4 Shakers in his registry. To the non-Mopar fans out there, Shakers are much more common on 440 Six Pack and Hemi Challenger R/Ts, but the single 4bbl. Shaker units were slow to trickle out to the public in 1970.

As far as the color combo, there's no way to know it's 1 of 1 because Chrysler's records didn't keep option combinations, but red stripes are quite rare for any color (usually found on white and black cars), and DY3 is already quite rare for the R/T. </div></div>

Absolutely correct 442w30. 1 of 2 known to exist. I did a lot of homework before I finalized the deal with Dave West. I looked everywhere and talked to a lot of guys that are &quot;in the know&quot;. There is also a shaker registry. I talked to the owner (Travis) of that registry in detail. Travis only know of two U codes....mine and the black 4 speed. The 440 Six Pack and Hemi Challenger was where you would see the shakers implemented. There was also a hood change for the 70 model year for shakers....to add crumple zones to the hood. My car has a May build date and also has the updated hood.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 68l30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stunning examples here of &quot;different is good&quot; !!!! MY favorite color on the 70's has always been B5....Wheel covers and body side molding .... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif


BIG </div></div>

You got that right 68I30. I'm a huge fan of the B5 also. Almost purchased my 09 in B5 blue. Great color. Many wil disagree...but I really like green. To each his or her own.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:48 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JpMotorsports</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very cool car glad your story ends with a happy ending </div></div>

Thanks JpMotorsports. The story did not start out good at all but couldn't have finished any better.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:53 PM
Here's something that I thought was very cool and could not believe my eyes. Here's a link if anyone is interested.

http://cs.scaleautomag.com/sca/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/113576.aspx

caj
11-16-2015, 01:54 PM
....and now for the eye opener.

caj
11-16-2015, 01:56 PM
Here are the builder words:

Here's a replica of a '70 Challenger R/T I saw on a calendar, a 1 of 1 car, DY3 cream color with white vinyl roof, red bumblebbe stripe and red interior, shaker hood, 440 4bbl and automatic transmission.

I used the yankee challenge AMT kit, added details with evergreen strips on the chassis and many parts from other kits, added fuel and brake lines, handbrake cables, and some other details here and there...

caj
11-16-2015, 01:57 PM
I am trying to contact the builder and am in hopes that he will sell me this model of my car that he made. I doubt he'll want to part with it, but I'm going to try anyway.

JpMotorsports
11-16-2015, 03:05 PM
Oh wow if I ever saw a model of my car I'd do what ever to get it or have the builder build you one as well.

Mr70
11-16-2015, 03:14 PM
Pretty cool.Great color combo as well.

If he won't sell you that one,maybe he'll build you a replica of it from another AMT plastic kit.

RJS
11-16-2015, 03:30 PM
Very nice! I remember when that car came up forsale and loved the attention to detail and rarity of it. Scott is a great guy that has helped me with information more than once over the years.
You should be very proud of what you have there.

What is the story you were speaking on about another Challenger? Have a link?
Ron

caj
11-16-2015, 03:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JpMotorsports</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh wow if I ever saw a model of my car I'd do what ever to get it or have the builder build you one as well. </div></div>

JpMotorsports and Mr70....I have tried getting in touch with the builder but he has not replied. Maybe someday he will. How cool would that be to have the model sitting in my car at the shows?

Mr70
11-16-2015, 03:57 PM
Once you get that model,pick up this Lic.plate he used on it,to match yours.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-R-T-RT-Log...REAAOSwl9BWKs29 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-R-T-RT-Logo-Collector-Series-Mopar-License-Plate-/221921593628?hash=item33ab8ec91c:g:6REAAOSwl9BWKs2 9)

68l30
11-16-2015, 04:10 PM
Not to drag this off topic....but, did Mother Mopar offer some period plates similar to the USA-1 plates we all collect? My mind ain't working right now.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif



BIG

caj
11-16-2015, 04:26 PM
Hi Ron...the attention to detail is well over the top. Dave owned the car for many years before doing any work on it. During those years he did much research on it....reading as much as he could and with phone calls to other Challenger gurus. He also took that time to carefully accumulate as many NOS parts as he could. The trunk weather stripping cost him $1200 alone. He did one hell of a job on her. Attention to detail was second to none. Scott is a plethora of information and goes above and beyond to help others. He found a buyer and got me out of a bad situation with a 70 Challenger R/T SE that I bought a few months earlier. I can't say enough about either one of those two.

caj
11-16-2015, 04:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Once you get that model,pick up this Lic.plate he used on it,to match yours.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-R-T-RT-Log...REAAOSwl9BWKs29 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-R-T-RT-Logo-Collector-Series-Mopar-License-Plate-/221921593628?hash=item33ab8ec91c:g:6REAAOSwl9BWKs2 9) </div></div>

Good catch Mr70. If I can get that model it will be a great added touch.

RS_COPO_Canuck
11-16-2015, 04:39 PM
I had a 70 Shaker Challenger RT/SE Six Pack. Sold it to a friend - He still owns it.....I want it back - lol!

A shaker on any 70 Challenger is rare.......they didn't start shipping until May of 70 because of problems with the Challenger hood.

Mine was a 4.10 4-speed Six-Pack.....with the white roof and bumble bee stripe.

The pic with 2 of them is mine and my buddies 440-6 Auto - original paint car. Both were FJ5 Sublime.


There were only so many 70 RT/SE's with shakers.....can't remember the actual number right now but total 70 Challenger Shaker production was around 184 cars........need to find my info on RT/SE with N96 option.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34458-dsc03491.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34459-l_rear2_b.jpg

caj
11-16-2015, 05:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a 70 Shaker Challenger RT/SE Six Pack. Sold it to a friend - He still owns it.....I want it back - lol!

A shaker on any 70 Challenger is rare.......they didn't start shipping until May of 70 because of problems with the Challenger hood.

Mine was a 4.10 4-speed Six-Pack.....with the white roof and bumble bee stripe.

The pic with 2 of them is mine and my buddies 440-6 Auto - original paint car. Both were FJ5 Sublime.


There were only so many 70 RT/SE's with shakers.....can't remember the actual number right now but total 70 Challenger Shaker production was around 184 cars........need to find my info on RT/SE with N96 option.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34458-dsc03491.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34459-l_rear2_b.jpg
</div></div>

Wow RS_COPO_Canuck....you have totally blown me away. Those are both unbelievable to see in the same pic. I can't believe you let that one go. Here's a short blurb and break down on the 70 Shakers.

Early in the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on 440+6 'Cuda &amp; HEMI &amp; 440+6 Challenger R/T

Spring of the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on other engine 'Cuda &amp; all engine Challenger R/T


I've seen the following numbers (accuracy??)
1970 production figures w/N96 (US spec. cars):
BS23R0B - 652
BS27R0B - 14
BS23_0(B/E) - 717 (non-HEMI)
BS27_0(B/E) - 8 (non-HEMI)
JS23_0(B/E) - 164
JS27_0(B/E) - 5
JS29_0(B/E) - 15

SS427
11-16-2015, 05:52 PM
I would bet the builder of the model would be very pleased to put it in the hands of the owner of the car. However, it may cost you. When I was building models MANY years ago people always wanted a replica of their car built. It was not hard to put 75-100 hours in a model with a ton of detail and that could get expensive. It would be really cool to have it however.

caj
11-16-2015, 07:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would bet the builder of the model would be very pleased to put it in the hands of the owner of the car. However, it may cost you. When I was building models MANY years ago people always wanted a replica of their car built. It was not hard to put 75-100 hours in a model with a ton of detail and that could get expensive. It would be really cool to have it however. </div></div>

Hi SS427....I'm sure he would be very pleased and even flattered of my interest in buying his model. I know it will cost me but at the same time....how cool would it be to have a model of your exact car?

442w30
11-16-2015, 07:58 PM
caj, I believe there's a 1:18 diecast of your car. In fact, my friend helps the manufacturer with color schemes and options, so he was responsible for it. I've emailed him to ask him so that you can find the actual diecast and not just something a hobbyist created. I'll post again when I find out more.

EDIT: I may be mixing it up with this:

http://www.diecastdepot.ca/index.php?PID=12130

But still waiting for my friend's response on the Challenger.

black69
11-16-2015, 08:04 PM
that U code looks great! there is a green survivor around here in Chicago (6 pak auto), looks like one of the 2 green ones in that pic.
I knew they were rare, did not know how rare until now.

caj
11-16-2015, 09:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">caj, I believe there's a 1:18 diecast of your car. In fact, my friend helps the manufacturer with color schemes and options, so he was responsible for it. I've emailed him to ask him so that you can find the actual diecast and not just something a hobbyist created. I'll post again when I find out more.

EDIT: I may be mixing it up with this:

http://www.diecastdepot.ca/index.php?PID=12130

But still waiting for my friend's response on the Challenger. </div></div>


Hey 442w30....thanks a lot. That would be great to find a diecast like my car. I really appreciate it.

caj
11-16-2015, 09:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that U code looks great! there is a green survivor around here in Chicago (6 pak auto), looks like one of the 2 green ones in that pic.
I knew they were rare, did not know how rare until now. </div></div>

Thanks black69. Yes...the 70s are somewhat rare. Those green R/T's look great. Hey...I'm from Chicago too....born and raised. Left there when I retired in 2001. Growing up I lived at Jefferson Park and went to Steinmetz HS. Went into the Air Force and stationed in Thailand during Vietnam. Got out and lived in Schiller Park right on River Rd....right down the road from MCACN. Then we moved to the western suburbs....Streamwood and Bartlett. We'll be in and enjoying the pizza and beef sandwiches in 2 days. Really miss the Chicago food.

442w30
11-17-2015, 01:10 AM
CAJ, my friend just responded that the company with whom he consults doesn't have the rights to the Challenger mold, so the Charger is the only one in that combo - sorry!

caj
11-17-2015, 11:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">CAJ, my friend just responded that the company with whom he consults doesn't have the rights to the Challenger mold, so the Charger is the only one in that combo - sorry! </div></div>

Hi 442w30.....I really want to thank you for checking with him. I'm still hoping that one day I'll hear from the builder of that model. Hopefully he'll be willing to part with it or possibly make another one for me.

RS_COPO_Canuck
11-17-2015, 03:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that U code looks great! there is a green survivor around here in Chicago (6 pak auto), looks like one of the 2 green ones in that pic.
I knew they were rare, did not know how rare until now. </div></div>

I am 99.99% sure that survivor in Chicago is my friends old car. Sold new in Ontario.
It is the one in my pic with the black stripe.
My friend unfortunately died while he had the car at Roger Gibson's getting cleaned up.....I helped Roger get the paperwork so he could sell the car for my friends mother. I remember the buyer was from Chicago.

RS_COPO_Canuck
11-17-2015, 04:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caj</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a 70 Shaker Challenger RT/SE Six Pack. Sold it to a friend - He still owns it.....I want it back - lol!

A shaker on any 70 Challenger is rare.......they didn't start shipping until May of 70 because of problems with the Challenger hood.

Mine was a 4.10 4-speed Six-Pack.....with the white roof and bumble bee stripe.

The pic with 2 of them is mine and my buddies 440-6 Auto - original paint car. Both were FJ5 Sublime.


There were only so many 70 RT/SE's with shakers.....can't remember the actual number right now but total 70 Challenger Shaker production was around 184 cars........need to find my info on RT/SE with N96 option.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34458-dsc03491.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34459-l_rear2_b.jpg
</div></div>

Wow RS_COPO_Canuck....you have totally blown me away. Those are both unbelievable to see in the same pic. I can't believe you let that one go. Here's a short blurb and break down on the 70 Shakers.

Early in the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on 440+6 'Cuda &amp; HEMI &amp; 440+6 Challenger R/T

Spring of the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on other engine 'Cuda &amp; all engine Challenger R/T


I've seen the following numbers (accuracy??)
1970 production figures w/N96 (US spec. cars):
BS23R0B - 652
BS27R0B - 14
BS23_0(B/E) - 717 (non-HEMI)
BS27_0(B/E) - 8 (non-HEMI)
JS23_0(B/E) - 164
JS27_0(B/E) - 5
JS29_0(B/E) - 15

</div></div>

Yes - I remember that number now......15 JS29's (RT/SE) got a shaker.....15 spread among the 440-4, 440-6 and the Hemi....383? Not sure if that was in the mix..............Not too many!!
I'll end up with that car again......but I will have to give him a car I don't want to give him...Lol!

I love the combo on yours. Was it a sales bank car?

RS_COPO_Canuck
11-17-2015, 04:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that U code looks great! there is a green survivor around here in Chicago (6 pak auto), looks like one of the 2 green ones in that pic.
I knew they were rare, did not know how rare until now. </div></div>

Fixed...

I am 99.99% sure that survivor in Chicago is my friends old car. Sold new in Ontario.
It is the one in my pic with the black top.
My friend unfortunately died while he had the car at Roger Gibson's getting cleaned up.....I helped Roger get the paperwork so he could sell the car for my friends mother. I remember the buyer was from Chicago. </div></div>

caj
11-17-2015, 04:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caj</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a 70 Shaker Challenger RT/SE Six Pack. Sold it to a friend - He still owns it.....I want it back - lol!

A shaker on any 70 Challenger is rare.......they didn't start shipping until May of 70 because of problems with the Challenger hood.

Mine was a 4.10 4-speed Six-Pack.....with the white roof and bumble bee stripe.

The pic with 2 of them is mine and my buddies 440-6 Auto - original paint car. Both were FJ5 Sublime.


There were only so many 70 RT/SE's with shakers.....can't remember the actual number right now but total 70 Challenger Shaker production was around 184 cars........need to find my info on RT/SE with N96 option.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34458-dsc03491.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34459-l_rear2_b.jpg
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Wow RS_COPO_Canuck....you have totally blown me away. Those are both unbelievable to see in the same pic. I can't believe you let that one go. Here's a short blurb and break down on the 70 Shakers.

Early in the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on 440+6 'Cuda &amp; HEMI &amp; 440+6 Challenger R/T

Spring of the '70 model year the SHAKER was:
STANDARD on HEMI'Cuda
OPTIONAL on other engine 'Cuda &amp; all engine Challenger R/T


I've seen the following numbers (accuracy??)
1970 production figures w/N96 (US spec. cars):
BS23R0B - 652
BS27R0B - 14
BS23_0(B/E) - 717 (non-HEMI)
BS27_0(B/E) - 8 (non-HEMI)
JS23_0(B/E) - 164
JS27_0(B/E) - 5
JS29_0(B/E) - 15

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Yes - I remember that number now......15 JS29's (RT/SE) got a shaker.....15 spread among the 440-4, 440-6 and the Hemi....383? Not sure if that was in the mix..............Not too many!!
I'll end up with that car again......but I will have to give him a car I don't want to give him...Lol!

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It was a customer ordered car....not a dealer ordered car. I honestly believe that he liked the way the Jaguars looked in that color scheme and did the same thing. It is very unusual but striking. My wife loves it and she thinks the word to describe it is elegant.
I hope you end up with the Challenger again. It shouldn't be hard at all to track it down now.

black69
11-18-2015, 12:52 AM
I was looking for pics of a friends survivor shaker that came out of roger gibsons shop, and found this instead, maybe this is the car someone is looking for.
http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970ChallengerRT.htm

caj
11-18-2015, 12:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was looking for pics of a friends survivor shaker that came out of roger gibsons shop, and found this instead, maybe this is the car someone is looking for.
http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970ChallengerRT.htm
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It sure does look like it. It's a GREAT looking Challenger. We're in Colorado now and will be continuing on to Chicago. Hope to be there tomorrow. Man....the weather here is terrible!!!

markinnaples
11-18-2015, 01:15 PM
Great Challenger. Chrysler nailed &quot;the look&quot; when they made the Challenger and Cuda in 1970; they are beautiful cars.

RS_COPO_Canuck
11-18-2015, 05:08 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was looking for pics of a friends survivor shaker that came out of roger gibsons shop, and found this instead, maybe this is the car someone is looking for.
http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970ChallengerRT.htm
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That's my car on the Roger Gibson website.....it was restored.

Here is the survivor when when my friend - Scott Martin owned it. It was a at Rogers getting cleaned up.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34547-dsc00023.jpg

caj
11-19-2015, 12:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great Challenger. Chrysler nailed &quot;the look&quot; when they made the Challenger and Cuda in 1970; they are beautiful cars. </div></div>

Hi markinnaples. I totally agree that Chrysler nailed the look of the Challenger and Cuda. I think they did with a lot of their cars.....68-70 Charger is another one.

caj
11-19-2015, 12:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RS_COPO_Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was looking for pics of a friends survivor shaker that came out of roger gibsons shop, and found this instead, maybe this is the car someone is looking for.
http://www.rogergibsonautorestoration.com/1970ChallengerRT.htm
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That's my car on the Roger Gibson website.....it was restored.

Here is the survivor when when my friend - Scott Martin owned it. It was a at Rogers getting cleaned up.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2015/11/full-19210-34547-dsc00023.jpg

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Very nice car RS_COPO_Canuck. Love it!!!

jas1973
11-19-2015, 07:02 PM
Nice looking car! I have one too.

caj
11-19-2015, 10:44 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jas1973</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice looking car! I have one too. </div></div>

Hi jas1973. Great....a shaker R/T?

caj
01-03-2016, 03:53 PM
Happy New Year everyone. I hope everyone out there had a nice holiday. Last year ended GREAT and this Year started off GREAT!!! The end of last year was a total turn around from earlier in the year when things started out bad after I purchased a 70 yellow Challenger R/T SE from a less than honest seller. Everything looked much better when I purchased a 70 cream Challenger R/T from a GREAT guy....Dave West that I met through Scott Smith from Harms Auto. There are a lot of dishonest people out there and it would be nice if they could all take a lesson from Dave West. I just wanted to show everyone on the board here what a class act Dave is. My wife and I were in Vegas over New Years and when we got back a package was waiting for us. Inside was a belated Christmas gift for my wife and I from Dave. This model was painted with the same paint that was used to paint the Challenger. It will look absolutely great sitting inside the car at the car shows. What a nice thing to do!!! Thanks Dave!!!....and thanks again Scott for introducing us.

ssl78
01-03-2016, 04:03 PM
Yes Bob, that is definetly Glens Challenger I was with him when we picked it up from Roger Gibsons

TechFox
06-01-2023, 06:07 AM
Hey caj,

I'm new here and I have an odd question. I'm looking at buying a vehicle but I want to make sure I'm not getting scammed. Attached are images of the car I'm looking to purchase. After a lot of searching on the background of the car, I think this may have belonged to you at one point. Can you confirm if this was your vehicle? The individual I'm trying to buy the car from is named Robert Hillman. He's an American living in the UK and he's trying to ship the car home here to the states. If this was your car, do you recall if this was the individual who bought it? Does his story check out? Thanks so much!

southernfriedcj
06-02-2023, 11:58 PM
Wow! What a beauty. I had an EK2 Challenger T/A. That is the best color on these cars IMO.

PatrickKrook
06-08-2023, 11:02 PM
I remember seeing this car in Building T at Carlisle. She's a beauty.