1967 RS SS Camaro

[brent396]

This car was sold new at Clippinger Chevrolet Covina Cal according to NCRS report it was a small block car converted to a 427 at the dealer still trying to obtain paper work to prove that but was told by a good source that remembered the car at the dealer having 427 1967 .Its a 0-0 special paint code some sort of green look at pics. The car has the orginal 12 bolt 373 PJ code and 4 piston disc brakes and a factory 4 speed this car is super solid .This is a friend of mine car Please call him for more info 785 893 7037 he asking 69k http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160316_142827.jpg

[brent396]

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160316_183833.jpg

[brent396]

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Mobile%20Uploads/20160322_162547.jpg

[brent396]

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160316_142300.jpg

[brent396]

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160317_183218.jpg

[luzl78]

Wonder what the l229d means other than a fleet special order? The confirmation of the 427 transplant will confirm the asking price.

[resto4u]

Very cool car brent. Built the same week as my 67 z. About 450 car before mine, yours was built on wed. or thursday. They were built with the big cars, so they built about 200 camaro's a day.

[brent396]

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l346/brent1968/Mobile%20Uploads/20160423_214212_zpspq5fvnk0.jpg

[brent396]

This is not my car it's a friend of mine what do you guys think thanks

[brent396]

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l346/brent1968/Mobile%20Uploads/20160423_214344_zpsngfo9bti.jpg

[brent396]

The price is now 150,000 due to the paper work

[luzl78]

Bob wing ate is incorrect. It came originally with a 350 but probably did have the 427 installed but solid proof has not been supplied,just him saying that the motor was changed.

[Pusher_Man]

Brent, I think it's pretty darn cool. I've always liked the 67's and personally think they are undervalued. First year of the first gen, and the impact they had was enormous.

[WorkinProgress]

Letter from Bob Wingate does not have the full V.I.N.

[chevyman0429]

It also says it's a 396 car

[trader1]

bob did order the car as 4p ss 350 with a 396 came that way from gm he could sale the 396 to a boat place but not the 350 . so that's why he ordered it that way it was never a 4k car and he knows that. it was cheaper that's what HE SAID . HE DID ORDER AND SOLD THE CAR HIM SELF. AND HE KNOWS HE LEFT THE 7 OUT OF THE VIN AND IS SENDING OUT A NEW LETTER WILL BE HERE IN A COUPLE DAYS WHAT MORE DO U WANT A PIC OF HIM INSTALLING THE MOTOR HE DID TALK TO HIS MECHANIC TO VERIFY THE CAR . WAS THE ONE OUT OF 5 CARS HE ORDERED THAT WAS GREEN

[Charley Lillard]

"bob did order the car as 4p ss 350 with a 396 came that way from gm"

Huh ?

[scuncio]

Whoa. Calm down dude.

[luzl78]

Did Bob Wingate call Ed Cole at gm and say hey Ed, I'm ordering this camaro ss with a 350 and tell the guys at the factory to put a 4p on the cowl tag but when it comes down the line don't put the 350 in it. Just put the really powerful 396 in it cause I want to save some money. I'm gonna sell that 396 to a boat guy. Charlies IPC and and Jenkins l78 had 4p on the cowl but that was March this is May.
Maybe the L229d on the cowl tag is the special order the 350 but get 396 option.

[trader1]

All I know is he special ordered the car with a 396 . With a 4p code may not make sense to u but that's what he did . As for the docs no different then a motion car Joel says yes it did or no it did not or may be lol bob is still sharp and still looking for organizing invoice and a pic of the car he did take a pic of most every car he sold

[luzl78]

I would love to see a day one pic of the engine bay with the l78 in it. I have learned to never say never. I agree with the special order green because of the o-o paint code.

[trader1]

Yes your right bob had gm by the balls he could order whatever he wanted at the the time he was number 1 sales man in the US they gave him a 67 custom vette to keep him happy . He is not a lier or has he lost his mind lol

[Kurt S]

Clippinger ordered at least 2 other L78 cars, built at the same time as your car, and were also dark green. One is a possible dealer modified car.
Your car would not have received an L78 from the factory, especially since 2 L78's were actually ordered at the same time and both are 4K cars.
So the dealer only tried to save money on your car and not the others? That's not how the ordering process worked - either a L48 engine or an L78 engine was ordered and the proper body was then built.
As a SS350 car, I would question that your car was dealer converted to a 427 car, especially that late in the year. They would start with a big block, normally an L78 so they could reuse the most components. And have the right engine mounts, heater core, radiator, etc.
And your car 124377L157826 still has a SB heater core.

[trader1]

Kurt I understand where your coming from I asked bob several times why he ordered the car the way he did he told me the same thing over and over it was cheaper to order it as a 350 car and a 396 engine to get the running gear and he could recouped some money by saling the 396 . I know it's not by the book but this is the way bob wingate did this car please Google bob wingate he had lots of pull at gm

[trader1]

Kurt is there any docs on the other 2 cars u speak of by Bob Wingate

[Late BrakeU2]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would love to see a day one pic of the engine bay with the l78 in it. I have learned to never say never. I agree with the special order green because of the o-o paint code. </div></div>

I learned that lesson the hard way. Wingate was the top vette salesman in the country, and if memory serves he orchestrated the L88 cars for Garner's A.I.R. team through Harbor Chevy.

[Kurt S]

What you are saying is in direct conflict with the two cars that were ordered as L78's at the exact same time by the same guy. It's either ordered as a 350 car or a 396 car. I don't care who ordered it - you couldn't order it both ways at the same time. That's like ordering a convertible coupe.

No docs that I know on the other two cars.

[trader1]

the fact of the matter is this is the car bob did the 427 conversion on whether it was a 350 or a 396 . and he was confident to put is name on this paper work.

[trader1]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/04/full-7390-42772-p3174349.jpg
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[luzl78]

Can't see the pics

[John]

...try this... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/04/full-7390-42772-p3174349.jpg

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[DW31S]

No pics either. I'm wondering this: Joe Customer visits Clippinger Chevrolet's showroom and sees the special Green paint 427 transplant and says &quot;Man!, I like that car a lot! But I don't want one with a 427. How about ordering me one just like it with the 350&quot;. That happens here at the dealership quite a bit. We have a Denali on the floor, but sell a Yukon SLT instead for a whole lot less. It would also make sense that this car has a later build time than the other known special-paint L78 cars; one of which might be a possible 427 transplant. I've been at this car game all of my life (so far) and have seen (with my own two eyes) a bunch of stuff that would be hard to explain to someone who hasn't been in the car business so long. Some of the weird stuff does defy the rules, and yes, even common sense. I'm not at all saying this couldn't have happened, or doubting Bob Wingate's memory (three special ordered green Camaros, two of the three did get a heart-transplant, and maybe he is referring to one of those two), but if my first couple sentences of this post DID happen, it would seem to make more sense. Now, I'll also throw this out to everyone: in 1965, while my Dad ran the dealership, a new 1965 Olds Cutlass (not a 442), arrived off the car hauler with a 425 engine painted the same gold color as the normal 330. I know where the car was up until the '80s. True story. Nobody cared about it then and nobody (except a select few) believes it now. So anything was possible then; not so much today.

[DW31S]

Pics there now. Holes appear to be where an electric fuel pumped could've been mounted. Is that a cooler of some type in the cowl area?

[427TJ]

BB fender emblems are too low. No doubt put on after the SB to BB swap. Cool car that deserves to be put back to its original color and driveline configuration.

[LS6SS]

With all this speculation can't it be just as possible the cowl tag was a mis-stamp? I agree that if this was Joel then it would be as good as verified.

[luzl78]

bob orderd 5 cars in the dark green he has to match up his documentation with the correct vins of the l78 cars and verify his vin with this 350 car

[67rs/ss]

My understanding of the FSO code is L229D
L = LA
229 = the 229 special order for the LA plant
D = 4 cars total for the order.

[luzl78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67rs/ss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My understanding of the FSO code is L229D
L = LA
229 = the 229 special order for the LA plant
D = 4 cars total for the order. </div></div>thanks Anthony for enlightening me! Maybe it's all the green cars?

[Kurt S]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67rs/ss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
D = 4 cars total for the order. </div></div>
D is not the number of cars in the order.

[luzl78]

Kurt, what does the entire code mean?

[trader1]

Just wandering if those other green cars have Ncrs .

[Kurt S]

The first letter indicates the plant and the consecutive number traces to the special instructions (F&amp;SO). The suffix is the version.

[luzl78]

Thanks Kurt.

[trader1]

KURT bob ordered 5 special cars at the same time as my car . I would like more info on the other green cars u speak of do u have any docs that they came from bob wingate . this is what bob said 5 cars my green one and 4 other special paint cars and my car was the one he put the 427 in

[67rs/ss]

Kurt can you explain the version part of it. Say version D verses a version C.
Thanks, Tony

[Kurt S]

Tony,
They are believed to be revision numbers. Jim Mattison would be able to explain how they advanced the letters.

[iluv69s]

Is there actual original documentation from the dealership? Or is the dealer going by memory. In my dealings w Joel, even though he remembers my car, he would only say a 'maybe' because he does not have all of the docs for every car that they built. So NO letter from Joel 'just from memory'

[trader1]

I would be glad to talk to any one about this car he said he has dealer docs and a pic but he has boxes and boxes of paper and pics he is still looking 785 893 7037

[trader1]

Kurt please answer my question about the other green cars thanks

[trader1]

Just wanted to mention the 67 custom corvette bob ordered from gm special paint custom tail lights show car . Never say never it did happen.

[trader1]

I know of a motion car he had no docs and it's verified.

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trader1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I know of a motion car he had no docs and it's verified. </div></div>

Trader 1, If you're selling the car it's your responsibility to prove how the car was delivered and how and when it was converted. In my opinion there are some holes in the story that need further investigation. Neat car but the burden of proof is on you, especially if you are asking supercar money for the car. It sounds like you have a good start in your investigation but a ways to go. Good luck in your research, it may pay off..

[Kurt S]

I've answered it before. No docs with the other two cars. Maybe they aren't the same dealer.

I will say never on a 05C LOS 4P car having a factory L78 in it. That's a factory thing, nothing the dealer would be aware of or could override.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trader1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would be glad to talk to any one about this car he said he has dealer docs and a pic but he has boxes and boxes of paper and pics he is still looking 785 893 7037 </div></div>
IMO, a letter from a dealer employee based on his memory is not worth much, especially since it provides conflicting data. But if he actually has dealer docs, that's a different story.

[trader1]

Thanks kurt for clearing that up on the other green cars did not come from the same dealership. My car was the 1 green 67 out of 5 cars bob ordered. My grenade car with the oil cooler under the cowl. Bob and the mechanic installed. In this one green 67 camaro .when they did the engine swap

[Kurt S]

That's not what I said!

[CUJL8ER]

I have been watching this thread for a few days now, and find it hard to believe that someone would try so hard to convince people that they own a super car with no proof what so ever, other then a letter. This car was advertised in Lake Arrowhead, CA. approximately one to two months ago on CRAIGS LIST. The previous owner had the car for over 30 years, I talked to the owner in length about the car after seeing the special fleet code #, I did not get any indication from him that this car was any thing special other then a special ordered paint code car, I have every picture that was in the advertisement I just do not know how to upload them to this site. I have decided to let all the members asses and make their own opinions based on the actual add and pics. I will be glad to email the pics.to anyone who may want to upload them. This is how the add read:

1967 Camaro RS/SS 350 four speed. Drove the car for many years, started taking it apart to restore and life got in the way. Has 327 that needs a rebuild. Never had the original engine. Engine and Doug Nash five speed are out of the car, and interior was taken apart. Original four speed also included. Front disc brakes. 12 bolt Positraction with 3.73 gears.Typical wheel well rust in front of rear wheels, readily available patch panels will take care of it. Also very small amount of rust under front windshield. Otherwise rust free with no body rot. Original California car, special order dark green paint was the original color. Car was painted over 30 years ago and is faded, but what you see is what you get. There is no fresh paint and there has been plenty of time for additional rust to show if it was there. All parts are there except one front bumper bracket and one fender support brace. 70,870 on odometer, has turned over once so true mileage unknown. $18,500. For more Info call Craig.

[67rs/ss]

LA Craiglist (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5522560853.html)

[trader1]

I got the car from craig. He did not any thing about this car yes he had it for 30 years yes it came with a m22 4 speed and a 5 speed I called the sales man who sold the car new at clippinger chevy Wichita is bob wingate I also told craig the guy I got it from what I found out so you just spouting words and don't crap

[trader1]

And yes I put it on Craigs list so what

[trader1]

Get your facts before u run your mouth

[CUJL8ER]

I'm the one spouting words off. You're the one trying to make claims about your car with no significant documentation to substantiate your claims. Also, I think you should proof read what you write before you submit it. So many misspellings and grammatical errors it makes it difficult to read. I Will let the pictures speak for themselves and people make their own opinions based on that. I also have Craigs # still so I will make sure to give him a call to confirm what you are saying is true.

[CUJL8ER]

I have been watching this thread for a few days now, and find it hard to believe that someone would try so hard to convince people that they own a super car with no proof what so ever, other then a letter. This car was advertised in Lake Arrowhead, CA. approximately one to two months ago on CRAIGS LIST. The previous owner had the car for over 30 years, I talked to the owner in length about the car after seeing the special fleet code #, I did not get any indication from him that this car was any thing special other then a special ordered paint code car, I have every picture that was in the advertisement I just do not know how to upload them to this site. I have decided to let all the members asses and make their own opinions based on the actual add and pics. I will be glad to email the pics.to anyone who may want to upload them. This is how the add read:

1967 Camaro RS/SS 350 four speed. Drove the car for many years, started taking it apart to restore and life got in the way. Has 327 that needs a rebuild. Never had the original engine. Engine and Doug Nash five speed are out of the car, and interior was taken apart. Original four speed also included. Front disc brakes. 12 bolt Positraction with 3.73 gears.Typical wheel well rust in front of rear wheels, readily available patch panels will take care of it. Also very small amount of rust under front windshield. Otherwise rust free with no body rot. Original California car, special order dark green paint was the original color. Car was painted over 30 years ago and is faded, but what you see is what you get. There is no fresh paint and there has been plenty of time for additional rust to show if it was there. All parts are there except one front bumper bracket and one fender support brace. 70,870 on odometer, has turned over once so true mileage unknown. $18,500. For more Info call Craig.

[trader1]

I know your the other guy that wanted it craig told me. He was holding it for me till Monday u did not get and now you mad . get over it . I bought a 67 yenko off Craigslist he did know what he had and I did not tell him and all the info I have Ncrs and a letter head from bob wingate

[RAII4speed]

This Post about the car is as funny as the presidential election ... They too are all phonies.

Here is the definition of Phony .... pho·ny
/&amp;#712;f&amp;#333;n&amp;#275;/
informal
noun
plural noun: phonies
a fraudulent person or thing.
synonyms: impostor, sham, fake, fraud, charlatan; More

[SuperNovaSS]

It does not matter how much he bought the car for. It does matter if the car is what it is being advertised to be. If the dealer did in fact receive more than one green 67 RS/SS, I think there needs to be more proof than what is shown. The cowl mounted oil cooler is unique and if the dealer remembers installing that it does point in the right direction.

Based on the build date, the 4P clearly shows this was a 350 car. There is simply no reason the tag would have a 4P when a big block was installed. That would do nothing but confuse guys on the line and cost GM more money.

Kurt,

Since you told the original poster what you know in regards to the other cars, can you tell us? It sounds like you told him one thing and we were told something else.

I hope the car is a dealer converted 427 car. That would be so cool!

Thanks,

Jason

[BLACKLS5]

Reminds me of the 68 &quot;Motion&quot; Nova saga with Dan P.

[trader1]

What's fake about it little harsh don't u think

[trader1]

No hope about it bob says it is I don't see the big problem other than the 4p in a certain month it's on bobs letter head signed by him lol

[Stefano]

Kool Camaro. So what was the purpose of the trans cooler under the cowl on a 4 speed big block drag style car?

[trader1]

I would say engine oil cooler not transfer cooler

[bergy]

I'm kinda catching up late in the game here, so forgive me if this is redundant. This discussion isn't becoming confused with the early '67 Pace Cars that were 396/375 cars but had 4P tags on them is it? I know that there are documented BB Pace Cars with 4P, but my understanding is that it was an early glitch that was cleared up after March '67.

[GTO_DON]

I think the real problem here is we have a car that was bought for 18 grand,then goes to 69 grand. Guy joins the site and raises the price to 150! ARE U KIDDING ME? Then cops an attitude with members here who don't believe this story. Calls it a Yenko now? Again. Are u kidding me?
Looks like a let's get rich quick scheme.why are we even dealing with this? Does anyone really care about this train wreck? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Please keep the discussion civil folks. Trader I think you are typing too fast as some of what you say is hard to understand.
I have yet to see any dealer installed 427 type deal other than Yenko, Motion, Harrell bring anywhere close to Supercar money. Cool car if it is a 427 installed car when new but even with orig. dealer paperwork I don't think it will get anywhere near supercar money.

[trader1]

Yes your right I have been typing to fast lol I would like to know what u guys think it's worth

[BJCHEV396]

Interesting to say the least!

[Charley Lillard]

I think to add any real value you need to go thru Bobs paperwork and try to find something on the car.

[scuncio]

I'd like to know why 'trader1' is able to post an ad without being a paying member of this site.

[CUJL8ER]

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[Zedder]

And that vintage paperwork needs a Vin on it...

[John]

try this....

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<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[CUJL8ER]

Thanks, for taking care of that for me. For all those that don't know those are the pics from the original add.

1967 RS/SS 350 four speed. Drove the car for many years, started taking it apart to restore and life got in the way. Has 327 that needs a rebuild. Never had the original engine. Engine and Doug Nash five speed are out of the car, and interior was taken apart. Original four speed also included. Front disc brakes. 12 bolt Positraction with 3.73 gears.Typical wheel well rust in front of rear wheels, readily available patch panels will take care of it. Also very small amount of rust under front windshield. Otherwise rust free with no body rot. Original California car, special order dark green paint was the original color. Car was painted over 30 years ago and is faded, but what you see is what you get. There is no fresh paint and there has been plenty of time for additional rust to show if it was there. All parts are there except one front bumper bracket and one fender support brace. 70,870 on odometer, has turned over once so true mileage unknown. $18,500.

[GTO_DON]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd like to know why 'trader1' is able to post an ad without being a paying member of this site. </div></div>
Yeah. What sup wit dat

[Charley Lillard]

Brent is a paid member and listed it. Brent needs to stand behind it if there are problems.

[JamesinHBCA]

I would be glad to talk to any one about this car he said he has dealer docs and a pic but he has boxes and boxes of paper and pics he is still looking 785 893 7037


Did you let Bob Wingate know that you hope to make a big profit on the sale of this car and offer to share with him?

I know I could get to the bottom of those old boxes of dealer paperwork in a hurry if there was a $150K split involved.

Heck, you might even be able to ask for $250K if there is a plethora of paperwork

[Bill Pritchard]

oh boy...... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

[LS6SS]

Wow, what a great community of car lovers. Calling each other liars and frauds. Gotta love it!

[Stefano]

It would be nice to see an accurate history sorted out. All I know is that if I had bought this car at the advertised Craiglist price and truly believed it to be worth the current asking price, that I would pay a visit to Mr. Wingate in person and offer to help go thru his files.

[DBelk]

Even if there ends up being pictures/paperwork located, what is an &quot;off dealer&quot; supercar worth? In today's economy I sold 2 of what I consider the best supercars I have ever owned, a 1972 Baldwin Motion Corvette / 1973 Nickey Camaro, for 115k and 90k. Both bulletproof/documented histories. Great cars. They were not fire sales either. My god, I have seen Z-28 camaro's go for that! IMO Yenko cars will always bring the premium as you don't have to explain what they are, people already know. The other dealer supercars.............. Just my opinion.

[BJCHEV396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LS6SS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, what a great community of car lovers. Calling each other liars and frauds. Gotta love it! </div></div>This site is pretty tame and fair compared to some others.