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Salvatore
05-13-2016, 11:13 AM
Who makes the best "rattle can" Chevy orange out there for the 1969 year? Best color and coverage?
Thanks!
COPO CARTEL
05-13-2016, 11:48 AM
Plastikote Sammy
70 copo
05-13-2016, 12:11 PM
Hands down:
http://www.gastanks.com/Chevy-Engine-Orange-Enamel-Paint-12-oz-Spray-Can/productinfo/06-18/
x77-69z28
05-13-2016, 01:48 PM
I have always used Seymour EN-48. I think I had read somewhere that Quanta rebrands the Seymour paint.
Buddy
Donnie
05-14-2016, 12:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C O P O CARTEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Plastikote Sammy </div></div>
make sure you use the primer.
I like Dupli-color #1607 Chevy Orange best...no primer needed.
earntaz
05-14-2016, 02:30 AM
X2
67 Nova Boy
05-14-2016, 02:53 AM
I just use BLACK Sam...EASY!!
Dave
67 Nova Boy
Schonyenko2
05-14-2016, 03:31 AM
If you can, I would suggest you have someone shoot on a couple of coats of ppg dp70lf red oxide epoxy primer on first if you're doing the whole long blk. We like to shoot POR chevy orange thinned with laquer thinner about 10-15% through a primer gun. You can tweak that with a final dust coat of dupli color. It all dulls out after you drive it a few times. FWIW
Mr. Chevy
05-14-2016, 03:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like Dupli-color #1607 Chevy Orange best...no primer needed.
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X3
Rich
Salvatore
05-14-2016, 02:22 PM
Thanks Guys! Appreciate the input.
Kurt S
05-15-2016, 04:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Schonyenko2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It all dulls out after you drive it a few times. FWIW </div></div>
I think that's an important aspect. The orange was not full gloss from the factory.
92646
05-15-2016, 03:34 PM
I have seen two different shades of the Chevrolet motor orange with one being darker than the other. Did both shades get used in 1969 or are the colors from different years?
70 copo
05-15-2016, 04:05 PM
Some have described it as having a reddish hue. I found that the plasticote was dead on for the color but a bit too glossy for a show car that is not driven. I used it on my 70 Z28 resto because it was the best color match to the original paint on the block. June 70 car BTW..
The atmosphere you spray your rattle can in is big factor also.
Humid days always produce a different hue.
70 copo
05-15-2016, 07:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The atmosphere you spray your rattle can in is big factor also.
Humid days always produce a different hue. </div></div>
Where there you go...check the historical Meteorological records for % humidity at FLINT or TONAWANDA prior to restoring your engine.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif
novadude
05-16-2016, 01:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like Dupli-color #1607 Chevy Orange best...no primer needed.
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What's the difference between Dupli-color 1607 and 1620 when it comes to OEM color match? I've noticed that 1620 is less red, and more orange. What years would have used the 1620? That's what I have on my engine (1620), but the orange looks a little bright compared to OEM paint (in my opinion).
Don't know,never used #1620.
MosportGreen66
05-16-2016, 01:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The atmosphere you spray your rattle can in is big factor also.
Humid days always produce a different hue. </div></div>
Additionally, the distance from the paint can to the object you're painting... this will influence luster/hue/shade
HawkX66
05-16-2016, 02:25 PM
I was going to go with VHT, but after some suggestions from others and seeing a couple pics, I went with Seymour EN-48 for my spare motor. Here is how it came out. I just finished it this past week.
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223353.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223353.jpg.html)
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223342.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223342.jpg.html)
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223309.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223309.jpg.html)
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223254.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/69%20Camaro%20SS396%20L34/69%20Assembly/Engine%20Assembly/IMG_20160514_223254.jpg.html)
x77-69z28
05-16-2016, 02:37 PM
THAT is Chevy orange!
HawkX66
05-16-2016, 03:18 PM
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif I'm real happy with how the color turned out. I started out with soaking the engine with simple green a couple weeks ago and gave it a good wash. I wasn't going to be able to finish that day, so I sprayed it down with WD40 to stop any flash rusting. When I got ready to paint it, I used gasoline soaked blue shop towels and wiped it down thoroughly. After I wiped it down with dry towels, I ran my propane torch over it to make sure I got every last bit off and to heat up the block a little. Next was Wax & Grease remover. Let it dry/wipe it down. Spray several light coats, then several heavy coats allowing a few minutes between coats. I heated the paint with the torch between coats too. Not close enough for the flame to touch it though.
Kurt S
05-16-2016, 04:35 PM
Just like the factory procedure. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif
Looks good!
earntaz
05-24-2016, 06:26 PM
Here are two pics of the 454 going in my 71' Nova -- the paint used was VHT SP123. TAZ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/05/full-10261-43983-eng_pistons_003.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/05/full-10261-43984-eng_pistons_004.jpg
Xplantdad
05-24-2016, 07:44 PM
Looking good Taz!
earntaz
05-24-2016, 08:00 PM
Thanks Bruce -- just another home build ... can't wait to finish up this project. Craig
DarrenX33
05-25-2016, 05:35 PM
I used Plastikote on the Z when I did the motor. Yea, its glossy but it is super easy to keep clean. I don't mind it. For my latest project which I'm trying to duplicate/match up older paint I grabbed Duplicolor, VHT was way to red. So far so good. Let me know if you need any more advice Sam.
cook_dw
05-26-2016, 08:14 PM
Duplicolor 1620
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/05/full-1263-44016-img_1414.jpg
Dupli-color #1607 against Cranberry Red for comparison.
Salvatore
05-27-2016, 12:05 AM
thats really nice Rick!
cook_dw
05-27-2016, 12:06 AM
69 Nova on the dealer lot
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/tn_3mann3engine_zps8a3aa943.jpg.html
cook_dw
05-27-2016, 11:39 AM
Although I didnt use it on the 67; I agree that the 1607 Duplicolor is the correct.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/tn_3mann3engine_zps8a3aa943.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/tn_3mann3engine_zps8a3aa943.jpg.html)
Mr.Nickey Nova
05-27-2016, 11:39 PM
1607 red orange would be correct for the early 70's. 1620 orange looks to be more correct for the 60's.
69z28302
05-29-2016, 03:13 PM
I like the Semour. It doesn't seem to have the gloss like others but as Shoney says" It all Dull's after driving.
cook_dw
06-14-2016, 01:45 PM
Just to add more photos. Original early take off of the 68 L78 Camaro
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s649/cook_dw/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1309_zps5nog7prw.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/cook_dw/media/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1309_zps5nog7prw.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s649/cook_dw/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1311_zpsx9gmbebm.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/cook_dw/media/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1311_zpsx9gmbebm.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s649/cook_dw/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1302_zpsmfparwzj.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/cook_dw/media/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1302_zpsmfparwzj.jpg.html)
http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s649/cook_dw/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1303_zpsaspopbb8.jpg (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/cook_dw/media/1968%20Rallye%20Green%20L78%20Camaro/IMG_1303_zpsaspopbb8.jpg.html)
Verne_Frantz
06-14-2016, 02:53 PM
1962. Definitely a darker orange than later.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/06/full-1145-44809-tn.front.jpg
cook_dw
06-14-2016, 03:03 PM
Great shot Mr Frantz.. That does look like the 1607 duplicolor where the 68 is more like a dull 1620..
novadude
06-14-2016, 05:49 PM
Did Flint and Tonawanda shades even match? I would imagine each plant may have had their own paint supplier and there could have been different shades depending on where it was built (or maybe not?).
cook_dw
06-14-2016, 05:59 PM
If that were true then would the smog bracket match the same color on the manifolds? Werent the accessory brackets painted at the assembly plants and not at the engine plants? May have to defer to someone with more knowledge as I am headed to a meeting so I can not research at the moment.
Verne_Frantz
06-14-2016, 07:41 PM
I know in the early '60s nothing was painted Chevrolet Orange at the plants. The key is to look at the A.I.M. Anything that was assembled to the engine at the plant was either black, natural or plated. There were assembly differences between the two plants however before the engines were painted, such as the generator/alternator brace. Flint small blocks had the brace installed at the plant and it was black. Tonawanda small blocks had the brace installed at the engine plant and were painted orange along with the engine.
As for the two engine plants, since GM owned them both I'd think that they both received the same paint. From originals I've seen, I see no difference between the two plants through the mid sixties.
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif
resto4u
06-16-2016, 01:10 AM
I call the early chevy orange, red.
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