Yenko Deuce question

[442w30]

Hi, would it be true to suggest that they came with SS wheels standard? Would any of them have kept their poverty caps? Thanks!

[earntaz]

Mine came with the SS style wheels -- I don't remember seeing the wheels as an option on the sheet ... TAZ

[Mr70]

RPO N66 if you did.

[L78steve]

Did any come with SS hoods??? Reason I ask is that I purchased an SS hood from the owner of the Virginia Beach Red Deuce. He believed it was not original to the car but when I stripped the paint it only had the one coat of red and factory primer on it.
I may have his original hood.
It is an all numbers 4-speed by the way.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The Deuces came with the steel XT wheels of which 4 were converted to Motor Wheel Customs that Yenko bought directly from Motor Wheel. The spare is still the XT. Yenko was known to trim off a few conversion options if he could, and one original Deuce owner had to complain about his Deuce not having the SS wheels like the advertisement stated. Yenko did convert the wheels, but just tossed the 'Y' center cap decals on the front seat leaving the Magnum 500 wheel centers uncovered. If there were any Deuces that came without the wheels, I'd suspect they were sold new at Yenko. However, to date, we are not aware of any Deuces that came new with XT's

The Deuces were not SS cars and thus none of them came with an SS hood. The optional hood treatment was the Hurst scoop as used on the Hurst Jeepster and AMC Rebel Machine cars.

What is the Virginia Beach Red Deuce?

[mockingbird812]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi, would it be true to suggest that they came with SS wheels standard? Would any of them have kept their poverty caps? Thanks! </div></div>

They were only &quot;standard&quot; as a result of the YENKO conversion. The practice for the conversion (as told by sensa Marlin) at sYc was the SS wheels were installed at the dealership and the steel dog dish combos installed at the factory were surplused. Could one or two have snuck out without SS wheels - suppose it would be possible. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[L78steve]

What is the Virginia Beach Red Deuce?

Colonial Chevrolet Norfolk VA. Original owner from Va. Beach.

[camarojoe]

I always wondered how/why the Magnum 500's Yenko purchased direct from Motorwheel had the same GM (AO) codes as the factory SS wheels. I know that any other aftermarket Magnum 500's do not have the same codes as factory wheels.

[camarojoe]

I believe Yenko purchased the caps separately in sets of 4 as shown below... and always wondered if the wheels themselves may have actually been purchased through one of Don's Chevrolet contacts rather than directly from Motor Wheel. The standard SS wheel codes stamped on them always made me question if they really did come from Motor Wheel directly, or if only the center caps were purchased that way.


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[442w30]

Thanks for everyone's responses!

[JoeC]

I'm surprised Don did not have the wheels installed at the factory on the COPO.
He was allowed to make an amazing Nova order with the LT1 and custom 4sp Hurst shifter and all the other unique options. Seems like the wheels would have been a simple option to add on a COPO compared to all that other stuff.

[Schonyenko2]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi, would it be true to suggest that they came with SS wheels standard? Would any of them have kept their poverty caps? Thanks! </div></div>

While not Yenko deuces, the canadian COPO Novas has XTs and dog dish.

[camarojoe]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm surprised Don did not have the wheels installed at the factory on the COPO.
He was allowed to make an amazing Nova order with the LT1 and custom 4sp Hurst shifter and all the other unique options. Seems like the wheels would have been a simple option to add on a COPO compared to all that other stuff. </div></div>

Me too, and I sort of &quot;speculate&quot; that maybe he thought he WAS getting them as part of the deuce order. If you recall, the prototype car they mocked up for the ads had the SS wheels on it, and I've seen Deuce orders where they are referred to as &quot;SS Wheels&quot; rather than Magnum 500's. Perhaps after he realized that the 14x7 steel wheels GM used on his order were the cheapie XT's he made a deal to purchase some bare SS wheels separately, then ordered Magnum 500 caps for them. Again, total speculation on my part... I just always found it odd that the wheels supposedly purchased &quot;direct from Motor Wheel&quot; had the standard GM stampings on them and differed in NO way from standard GM production line SS wheels.

[JoeC]

on the 50 Hurst Yenko Deuces, did Hurst install the magnum wheels at their facility or were the cars sent to Yenko with the XT wheels?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I agree Joe, and the only info we have that supports that Don bought them directly from Motor Wheel are boxes of NOS wheels from Yenko that have shipping labels from Motor Wheel - and reportedly the AO codes on them! It does not make logical sense why he didn't have GM install them, and why direct ship wheels have a GM code on them. To our knowledge, Hurst converted the wheels for Yenko as we don't believe that all 50 of the Hurst Deuces came to Canonsburg - some eventually did, (Hooper Deuce for eg) but not all.

[Mr70]

From what I have read in the past,Don looked to save $,anyway he could.
Maybe Chevrolet wanted much more money then what MW quoted Don,so he bought em directly from MW instead,and they sent him already stamped AO date coded wheels,(inventory they had destined for Chevrolet),back in their own MW boxes?

He was paying kids to put stripes on,why not pay kids to install wheels too?

[Mr70]

Plus he gets to sell those take off XT wheels then too.

[novadude]

Wonder how much he got for scrapping the XT wheels? Can't imagine anyone cared much about plain steel wheels back in 1970. He may of sold them to people that needed wheels for snow tires or something.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The XT wheels sat behind the tire shop across the street for quite some time, stacked up in their various colors and nicknamed 'the rainbow'.

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The XT wheels sat behind the tire shop across the street for quite some time, stacked up in their various colors and nicknamed 'the rainbow'. </div></div>

Makes sense. I figured there was probably near zero demand for these back when the cars were new.

[Unreal]

When I was at Pitt in the late 60's, I can remember seeing motors and wheels (or wheels with tires, can't remember) in the Sunday Pittsburgh Press every week.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I think a bunch of the 396 shorts taken out of the converted cars were eventually sold to a bus company!