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Verne_Frantz

08-22-2016, 02:13 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crush</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a beaut!! What size is it Verne? And are you happy with that size ? Did you look at any other brands? </div></div>

I'm sorry. I should have mentioned the size. 8.5x24 with an extended tongue. I planned on getting that anyway, but the salesman reminded me that should I ever want to sell it, that option would increase potential buyers by 50% because that's what is required for mobile homes to pull it. It's just the right size for a full size Chevy with room for the cabinets. You can get away with a shorter one if you have smaller cars. I opted for a 7ft interior height because I'm 5'18". Yes, I looked at many brands, even more expensive ones that have a huge reputation. I found all of them did not meet the quality or features of inTech. They threw in a piece of that black coin rubber floor covering for the top of the bench and it's in the tool box drawers too.
And NO, I don't get any kick-backs.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
They provide a customer portal and upload photos of the construction each day. This one is after the FIRST day.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1145-47950-1_img_7951.jpg

I bought this ramp in case of flats and mailed it to them to install on the wall. I just figured they'd screw the bracket on but they finished it off with framed carpet so it wouldn't smudge the wall. They did that on their own, no charge.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1145-47951-img_0396.jpg

Verne_Frantz

08-22-2016, 02:44 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----What kind of money, Verne? Say a 26ft optioned like I see yours.

----I havent forgotten the pics, Verne. Sometime this week for sure......Bill S </div></div>

Bill, The options definitely add up. I'd guess a 26fter might hit $23K. You could save some money if you're willing to install the battery/charger pack, winch, interior lighting and electric tongue jack yourself but I wanted a turn key set up. The 4" floor risers were expensive but I needed them so I could open the car door all the way through the side door. Some people would be fine with a few 2x12s to drive on. Or you could just tell them to build it with a raised floor to accomplish the same ending. I'd have a 10ft tall trailer if I did that.
The side door and upper cabinets all are top hinged with gas shocks. I don't have to worry about slicing my head open from the corner of a door.

Verne
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-1145-47954-img_0389.jpg

PS: Take your time with the photos. I'm sure you have more important things to do.

HawkX66

08-22-2016, 02:19 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crush</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would like your opinions on which are best? Pros/cons etc..
Thx </div></div>

That inTech is absolutely beautiful. If you are looking for something a little more budget friendly, here is mine. It's a Haulmark Auto Transport. 24' x 8.5' x 6'. I'd love to have the aluminum for weight savings, but that really pushes you into another realm price wise. Options: Spare tire in the floor. Extra wide get out door, entry door and ramp door. The get out door needs be lower. Some trailers have the whole side open including the wheel well. Very nice feature.
I don’t have too much storage because weight adds up quickly. I’m towing with an Expedition, so it matters.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/20131008_120244.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/20131008_120244.jpg.html)

Add ons that have helped me a lot. #1 is a must.
1. Anti-sway weight distributing hitch.
2. Tekonsha P3 brake controller.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/20131013_125618.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/20131013_125618.jpg.html)

3. MaxxAir II over the factory air vent on the roof.
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/MaxxAir%20II.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/MaxxAir%20II.jpg.html)

4. Modified car alarm system.

5. The same wheel chock Verne has attached to his wall. I used it once to change a tire and they work fantastic. The mount he has is perfect.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/Trailer%20Aid%20chock.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/Trailer%20Aid%20chock.jpg.html)

6. E-Track on the walls.
7. Four extra floor d-rings
8. Remote operated winch.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/dsc00834_med.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/dsc00834_med.jpg.html)

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q573/SgtHawkUSMC/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/dsc00836_med.jpg (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/SgtHawkUSMC/media/Haulmark%20Transport%2024/dsc00836_med.jpg.html)

markinnaples

08-22-2016, 02:52 PM

Dave, How is it towing with the Expedition? We have a 2008 2WD Navigator that I was thinking about using to tow my '68 Camaro on an open trailer but I wasn't sure how the Navigator would perform towing the Camaro.

Jonesy

08-22-2016, 02:55 PM

Nice trailers! I never knew the Trailer Aid ramp existing or you could do something like that until now.
Im going to have to get one of those. Thanks for the info. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

HawkX66

08-22-2016, 02:57 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave, How is it towing with the Expedition? We have a 2008 2WD Navigator that I was thinking about using to tow my '68 Camaro on an open trailer but I wasn't sure how the Navigator would perform towing the Camaro. </div></div>
You'll be perfectly fine. Especially with an open trailer. I've towed it back and forth from Mass to Mich four or five times. The only rough spot is through the Berkshires in Western Mass. I tow with "XL" Cooper Tires. The XL is for Extra Load. They are a happy medium between truck and car tires. I do that to help with any trailer sway. In most places, as long as it's set up properly, you don't even know it's back there.

markinnaples

08-22-2016, 03:02 PM

Thanks Dave. I am going to try to tow it up from FL to KY on 75 which isn't too bad, but I think I'll change my route from Eastern KY to Pittsburgh from going through WV and go straight up 62 through OH and take 70 east to Pgh. The winding roads through the mountains of WV just make me nervous towing through there, and since OH is mostly flat that should make for a better ride.

And thanks for your service. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

Crush

08-22-2016, 03:06 PM

Dave
Did you order your trailer or buy from inventory? What dealer and would you recommend?

HawkX66

08-22-2016, 03:10 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Dave. I am going to try to tow it up from FL to KY on 75 which isn't too bad, but I think I'll change my route from Eastern KY to Pittsburgh from going through WV and go straight up 62 through OH and take 70 east to Pgh. The winding roads through the mountains of WV just make me nervous towing through there, and since OH is mostly flat that should make for a better ride.

And thanks for your service. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif </div></div>
The mountains in KY and WV are pretty rough for towing without a diesel depending on weight. Camaro on an open you should be fine though. You might want to get a trans temp gauge also. They have different options. The one I have plugs into my OBDII port and gives me a bunch of other info.
Are you going that way for the scenery? I always just shoot up 95 when I go back and forth from Mass to FL.

HawkX66

08-22-2016, 03:13 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crush</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave
Did you order your trailer or buy from inventory? What dealer and would you recommend? </div></div>
I bought from inventory. I was going to buy a relatively inexpensive one from KY I think it was. I stopped in to a dealer and told him to "talk me out of it." He did. I paid slightly more and got 10x the trailer. I went through a dealer in Leominster, Mass. as that wasn't far from me at the time. Airport Trailer Sales. Very good to deal with, but depending on where you are, I'm sure there is something not too far from you.

markinnaples

08-22-2016, 03:33 PM

Dave, We stay at my in-laws in Eastern KY for a couple months and then head to Pgh for a few weeks in the summer every year. Up 75 and then across 62 is just the easiest route from SW FL.

Verne_Frantz

08-22-2016, 03:49 PM

Just a note on trailer sway: If the trailer is offered with a spread axle design, I'd recommend it. That doesn't mean it's wider; it means the axles are further apart front to back. That means you don't have such a pivot point in the middle. A little extra tire scrub on tight corners though.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Verne_Frantz

08-22-2016, 04:01 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jonesy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice trailers! I never knew the Trailer Aid ramp existing or you could do something like that until now.
Im going to have to get one of those. Thanks for the info. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif </div></div>

I hate to say it, but buy it from Wallmart for half the price the trailer outfitters charge. It comes with the bracket.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Tommy Nolen

08-22-2016, 05:30 PM

I bought mine from the local trailer dealer, that was several years ago, I think it cost about 35 dollars but it didn't come with bracket.

Donnie

08-22-2016, 07:57 PM

<span style="font-weight: bold">Heres my Wellscargo 24' wide body with 5000 lbs. axles</span>

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-2313-47978-wells.jpg

Crush

08-22-2016, 08:02 PM

Donnie, is that aluminum? Does the air deflector make a difference in gas mileage? I'm considering a V-nose and have heard pros/cons on such.

Donnie

08-22-2016, 08:10 PM

no its not Aluminum.
fuel mileage is a little better then my old flat nose Wellscargo. and the push and pull when you pass a Big truck isnt as bad.

Tommy Nolen

08-22-2016, 10:08 PM

Trailers....interesting subject. In my opinion there are 3 different levels of trailers. #1 The low level or cheaper trailers mostly made in Ga., #2, the middle trailers like the Haulmark, Wells Cargo etc. and then #3 the high end trailers like the ATC, Intech like Verne has and some other brands in the high end catagory.

I have 2 trailers, one is a Ga. built trailer (I wouldn't recommend buying one of these) my Ga. built trailer is a 36' gooseneck. I bought it in 2007 and its still in service so it wasn't too shabby. It cost 5k less than a Haulmark so I guess you get what you pay for. The downside was extremely poor workmanship plus the economy in 2008 put them under so I was never able to buy any replacement parts.

The other trailer that I have I just purchased last year, it's a 28' Haulmark. Did you know that Haulmark, Wells Cargo, Exiss, Featherlite, Sooner and probably others are all made by the same company? Universal Trailers. I don't know if thats good or bad, just a sign of the times. In talking to Verne when he was ordering his he was telling me how he spec'd it out, when I ordered my Haulmark last year I told the dealer where I wanted my escape door, his response was "they know where to put the door, don't you worry bout it". The damn door is close but a good 6" from where I would like it to be. Same on the tie downs, I told them where to put the tie downs but they didn't do it so I had to install my own. I would order another Haulmark but this time they would put stuff where I said put it or I would go elsewhere. I previously had a 2005 Haulmark, the workmanship was much better in it than my new one.

I've never had any experience with the high end trailers although I have friends who have them and for the most part they are happy. The one thing I think they all have in common is tires, they all put junk tires on the trailers. I think even Verne told me that he didn't have a choise in tires. My advise to anyone buying a trailer or spec'ing out a trailer is to go with 16" tires. This creates a problem with the escape door because it requires a larger wheel box but to my knowledge there is not a single 15" trailer tire made in America. The Goodyear Matharon was in my opinion the best there was but they are now made in China. My trailers have 16" tires, I run Goodyear G614 tires, they are made in America and they cost over 300 dollars each but if one of those tires blow out its gonna destroy the fender and most likely do damage to side of the trailer. I replace the tires every 4 years, regardless of tread wear or appearance.

As for a tow truck, get something big enough to handle the trailer. Most of my travels are fairly long hauls. My trucks are a F450 diesel, dually and a F350 diesel SRW. I have used a half ton truck but I believe those using half ton trucks, Explorers and other vehicles of that nature are on a path to transmission failure. My little half ton was a Chevy Silverado SS, it had plenty of power, good brakes and the trailer felt stable but the transmission was constantly shifting gears. The other reason for having a diesel, in my opinion is how far I can go on a tank of fuel, it isn't always easy to get in and out of the filling stations, with a gas vehicle you will need to stop every couple of hundred miles. My trucks will run all day without stopping for fuel. The F450 carries 132 gallons and the F350 holds 87 gallons

Just my thoughts, the other thing that I will add (hope I don't step on any toes) I bought my first enclosed trailer over 20 years ago, never had an aluminum framed trailer, don't want one. I think aluminum frames will tend to develop stress cracks down the road, I have heard of guys getting stopped by the DOT and they were checking for frame cracks

Verne_Frantz

08-22-2016, 10:41 PM

Those are all good comments Tommy. As far as specing everything, inTech sent me a form to fill out that asked for many measurements from my car. They used that to determine exactly where the car would sit in the trailer, then placed the escape door and the tie downs perfectly. Now I could load a smaller car and have the freedom to place it where ever it needed to be in order to use the side door.
They draw up blueprint plans and email them. I checked all the measurements, made a few changes, reviewed more plans then finally signed off. I knew exactly what I was getting.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

napa68

08-22-2016, 11:41 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trailers....interesting subject. In my opinion there are 3 different levels of trailers. #1 The low level or cheaper trailers mostly made in Ga., #2, the middle trailers like the Haulmark, Wells Cargo etc. and then #3 the high end trailers like the ATC, Intech like Verne has and some other brands in the high end catagory.

I have 2 trailers, one is a Ga. built trailer (I wouldn't recommend buying one of these) my Ga. built trailer is a 36' gooseneck. I bought it in 2007 and its still in service so it wasn't too shabby. It cost 5k less than a Haulmark so I guess you get what you pay for. The downside was extremely poor workmanship plus the economy in 2008 put them under so I was never able to buy any replacement parts.

The other trailer that I have I just purchased last year, it's a 28' Haulmark. Did you know that Haulmark, Wells Cargo, Exiss, Featherlite, Sooner and probably others are all made by the same company? Universal Trailers. I don't know if thats good or bad, just a sign of the times. In talking to Verne when he was ordering his he was telling me how he spec'd it out, when I ordered my Haulmark last year I told the dealer where I wanted my escape door, his response was "they know where to put the door, don't you worry bout it". The damn door is close but a good 6" from where I would like it to be. Same on the tie downs, I told them where to put the tie downs but they didn't do it so I had to install my own. I would order another Haulmark but this time they would put stuff where I said put it or I would go elsewhere. I previously had a 2005 Haulmark, the workmanship was much better in it than my new one.

I've never had any experience with the high end trailers although I have friends who have them and for the most part they are happy. The one thing I think they all have in common is tires, they all put junk tires on the trailers. I think even Verne told me that he didn't have a choise in tires. My advise to anyone buying a trailer or spec'ing out a trailer is to go with 16" tires. This creates a problem with the escape door because it requires a larger wheel box but to my knowledge there is not a single 15" trailer tire made in America. The Goodyear Matharon was in my opinion the best there was but they are now made in China. My trailers have 16" tires, I run Goodyear G614 tires, they are made in America and they cost over 300 dollars each but if one of those tires blow out its gonna destroy the fender and most likely do damage to side of the trailer. I replace the tires every 4 years, regardless of tread wear or appearance.

As for a tow truck, get something big enough to handle the trailer. Most of my travels are fairly long hauls. My trucks are a F450 diesel, dually and a F350 diesel SRW. I have used a half ton truck but I believe those using half ton trucks, Explorers and other vehicles of that nature are on a path to transmission failure. My little half ton was a Chevy Silverado SS, it had plenty of power, good brakes and the trailer felt stable but the transmission was constantly shifting gears. The other reason for having a diesel, in my opinion is how far I can go on a tank of fuel, it isn't always easy to get in and out of the filling stations, with a gas vehicle you will need to stop every couple of hundred miles. My trucks will run all day without stopping for fuel. The F450 carries 132 gallons and the F350 holds 87 gallons

Just my thoughts, the other thing that I will add (hope I don't step on any toes) I bought my first enclosed trailer over 20 years ago, never had an aluminum framed trailer, don't want one. I think aluminum frames will tend to develop stress cracks down the road, I have heard of guys getting stopped by the DOT and they were checking for frame cracks </div></div>

Great perspective Tommy <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Donnie

08-23-2016, 12:01 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other trailer that I have I just purchased last year, it's a 28' Haulmark. Did you know that Haulmark, Wells Cargo, Exiss, Featherlite, Sooner and probably others are all made by the same company? Universal Trailers. I don't know if thats good or bad, just a sign of the times. In talking to Verne when he was ordering his he was telling me how he spec'd it out, when I ordered my Haulmark last year I told the dealer where I wanted my escape door, his response was "they know where to put the door, don't you worry bout it". The damn door is close but a good 6" from where I would like it to be. Same on the tie downs, I told them where to put the tie downs but they didn't do it so I had to install my own. I would order another Haulmark but this time they would put stuff where I said put it or I would go elsewhere. I previously had a 2005 Haulmark, the workmanship was much better in it than my new one. </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">That is not a good dealer.</span>

when I ordered mine my doors, tie downs, lights and other items were put where I wanted them. I also received blueprints like Verne that I had to sign off on.

flyingn

08-23-2016, 01:11 AM

wow guys some really nice trailers....

Tommy Nolen

08-23-2016, 01:46 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other trailer that I have I just purchased last year, it's a 28' Haulmark. Did you know that Haulmark, Wells Cargo, Exiss, Featherlite, Sooner and probably others are all made by the same company? Universal Trailers. I don't know if thats good or bad, just a sign of the times. In talking to Verne when he was ordering his he was telling me how he spec'd it out, when I ordered my Haulmark last year I told the dealer where I wanted my escape door, his response was "they know where to put the door, don't you worry bout it". The damn door is close but a good 6" from where I would like it to be. Same on the tie downs, I told them where to put the tie downs but they didn't do it so I had to install my own. I would order another Haulmark but this time they would put stuff where I said put it or I would go elsewhere. I previously had a 2005 Haulmark, the workmanship was much better in it than my new one. </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">That is not a good dealer.</span>

when I ordered mine my doors, tie downs, lights and other items were put where I wanted them. I also received blueprints like Verne that I had to sign off on. </div></div>

What brand trailer do you have?

resto4u

08-23-2016, 01:56 AM

An aluminium trailer will have a set life span same as aircraft. Also reefer semi trailers with aluminium floors, they crack and tear and become metal fatigued. If it is over built and the welds are quality, i would not give it a thought.

DW31S

08-23-2016, 10:41 AM

I have a "loaded" Vintage Intimidator and love it. 12,000; 6,000 axles, 8 lug 16" wheels with Goodyears. I have inside ramps permanently mounted, double wide escape door, hidden spare, workbench with upper and lower cabinets, electric tongue jack, alarm, lights, checkered floor, and the best hitch and sway bars I could find. Mine is pretty heavy, but there isn't anything I don't like about it. Hope this helps!

Crush

08-23-2016, 10:53 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a "loaded" Vintage Intimidator and love it. 12,000; 6,000 axles, 8 lug 16" wheels with Goodyears. I have inside ramps permanently mounted, double wide escape door, hidden spare, workbench with upper and lower cabinets, electric tongue jack, alarm, lights, checkered floor, and the best hitch and sway bars I could find. Mine is pretty heavy, but there isn't anything I don't like about it. Hope this helps!</div></div>

Thanks for info.. Couple questions, what size is it and what do you pull it with?

HawkX66

08-23-2016, 01:00 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
As for a tow truck, get something big enough to handle the trailer. Most of my travels are fairly long hauls. My trucks are a F450 diesel, dually and a F350 diesel SRW. I have used a half ton truck but I believe those using half ton trucks, Explorers and other vehicles of that nature are on a path to transmission failure. My little half ton was a Chevy Silverado SS, it had plenty of power, good brakes and the trailer felt stable but the transmission was constantly shifting gears. The other reason for having a diesel, in my opinion is how far I can go on a tank of fuel, it isn't always easy to get in and out of the filling stations, with a gas vehicle you will need to stop every couple of hundred miles. My trucks will run all day without stopping for fuel. The F450 carries 132 gallons and the F350 holds 87 gallons
</div></div>
I agree with your comments about the grades of trailers. I wasn't all that impressed with some of the details on my Haulmark. They were more nitpicky things, but it's like when you're buying a new car. You want things right. I'm glad I didn't end up with a "no name" trailer. In the end I think that would have been a mistake.
My 05 F350 diesel definitely towed much better than my 07 Expedition, but I'm not worried in the least about breaking it. If you look at the specs for one equipped like mine, you'll find it's basically a 3/4 ton truck. I have 167k miles on the Ex and she drives like a spring chicken. Basic maintenance is key. I usually don't have to click the tow button unless I'm on certain longer grades. That's the only times it starts to shift up and down.

markinnaples

08-23-2016, 01:26 PM

Dave, is your Expedition a 4 or 2 wheel drive?

HawkX66

08-23-2016, 02:50 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave, is your Expedition a 4 or 2 wheel drive? </div></div>
4x4. I think most times 2x has a higher tow rating. Does yours have a factory tow package? That's a biggie. Trans cooler etc.

67 L78

08-23-2016, 11:46 PM

This what I use with a built in hotel. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-12072-48049-truck_and_trailer.jpg

Donnie

08-24-2016, 12:13 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other trailer that I have I just purchased last year, it's a 28' Haulmark. Did you know that Haulmark, Wells Cargo, Exiss, Featherlite, Sooner and probably others are all made by the same company? Universal Trailers. I don't know if thats good or bad, just a sign of the times. In talking to Verne when he was ordering his he was telling me how he spec'd it out, when I ordered my Haulmark last year I told the dealer where I wanted my escape door, his response was "they know where to put the door, don't you worry bout it". The damn door is close but a good 6" from where I would like it to be. Same on the tie downs, I told them where to put the tie downs but they didn't do it so I had to install my own. I would order another Haulmark but this time they would put stuff where I said put it or I would go elsewhere. I previously had a 2005 Haulmark, the workmanship was much better in it than my new one. </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">That is not a good dealer.</span>

when I ordered mine my doors, tie downs, lights and other items were put where I wanted them. I also received blueprints like Verne that I had to sign off on. </div></div>

What brand trailer do you have? </div></div> <span style="font-weight: bold">Wellscargo</span>

Postsedan

08-24-2016, 02:34 AM

Donnie is hoping he gives his trailer away in the distant future to a friend in NJ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

Dan

DW31S

08-24-2016, 12:34 PM

My Vintage is 24' and right now I'm using an '07 Siverado 2500 crew cab 4x4 with a 6.0. I don't own a tow vehicle; I'm the wholesale manager at a new car dealership and usually use a trade-in or something off of the used car lot(s). The truck I'm using now is a trade-in that I "built" to use as this year's tow vehicle; not a unit we would've kept for retail. My car has the dealership's name lettered on it, although they don't own it now; they did in 1969 & 1970, though!

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

08-24-2016, 05:47 PM

How many miles are on the '07 with the 6.0?

DW31S

08-24-2016, 08:11 PM

189,125 and counting.......

Crush

08-24-2016, 09:54 PM

I sold my first Duramax w 187k still ran great. My 15 has 40k and the one that will ultimately pull my trailer!

PxTx

08-24-2016, 10:14 PM

I've got 290xxx on my gas motor. Pulls my 28 footer great!

Few guys I work with have 200+ on the 6.0 trucks. Expect an alternator around 200k. Only unexpected thing is the "case rub" failure on the transfer case. I ditched the magnesium rear half for the aftermarket aluminum.

DW31S

08-25-2016, 01:56 AM

The entire industry has changed 100,000 isn't high miles anymore.

CamarosRus

08-25-2016, 09:41 AM

Look at www.autohaulersupply.com (http://www.autohaulersupply.com) for lower prices
for all your ratchet straps, etrack, everything !!!!!

TOWMAX 15" Load Range E 80 PSI Tires

Crush

08-25-2016, 02:07 PM

Nice!!

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

08-25-2016, 05:42 PM

Good to hear you guys still pulling boxes with 6.0 gas engines over 120k++! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif I just turned 120k with my '04 2500HD, crew with 6.0 and I'm concerned with the engine temp creaping up to 220 or so when pulling up the mountains - trans temp creaps up to 210'ish as well. It didn't always do this, except at 60k miles when I had to replace the water pump.... My boys want me to get a Class A diesel pusher..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif

Verne_Frantz

08-25-2016, 06:50 PM

Marlin,
Mine is an '08 3500HD 6.0 gas with almost 200K on it. Runs great. Those are very good motors. Mine has the towing package and the temp never budged towing uphill.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

CamarosRus

08-25-2016, 11:31 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Dodge%20Ram%2003/tn_TrailerHitchInstall008.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Dodge%20Ram%2003/SnapOnToolBox020.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Dodge%20Ram%2003/tn_PaceShadowGTRAWpic004.jpg

68l30

08-26-2016, 01:32 AM

Nice trailer Chuck! I went with Pace as well. I didn't get "all" the goodies, but bought a well made trailer and ordered quality components. When I was shopping, I talked to several of the people building them at the price point I had in mind. My question to each was, Why should I buy your trailer? The answers were interesting because I'm a fabricator/ Inspector. I understand cheap and BS very well, I have to in my line of work. I don't have the best, but I'm very very happy with their product.

BTW, I like the V nose....I love the way it pulls, esp when part of a convoy of semi's.

BIG

Crush

08-26-2016, 01:44 AM

BIG

What size did you get? Now that you have owned it a while, what if anything would you change? And if anyone once to chime in I'm curious about "E" track, yes/no?
Thx

Crush

08-26-2016, 01:45 AM

Chuck is your aluminum ?

68l30

08-26-2016, 01:52 AM

8.5' X 20' You gain about about a foot and a half in front with the V. Plenty of room for a first Gen Camaro....

I've added some custom stuff to the inside to make things easy. Added a winch, spare tire mount inside, trailer aid ramp and mount, small toolbox, 110V hook up, fire ext, added alum plates in the floor where my tires sit, a mount on the wall to hold my tie downs, and a custom mount in the floor to hold my draw bar and torsion bars when I'm not "hooked up" so the grease stays off me, paper towel holder.....Everythings aluminum so I keep it light.

I didn't have a need for the E track, I only haul a Camaro and the tie downs suffice. Works for me....

BIG

CamarosRus

08-26-2016, 03:40 AM

I think my PACE Shadow GT was built in Utah around 2004........I bought it around 2011....

NOT Aluminum.......Undercarriage is steel and very unimpressive !!!

I think its unusual in that its 20' with 10,000 GVW axle package.

I changed wheels and added TOWMAX Load Range E tires

Im still wanting to come up with location and plan for winch & battery ???

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

08-26-2016, 06:15 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marlin,
Mine is an '08 3500HD 6.0 gas with almost 200K on it. Runs great. Those are very good motors. Mine has the towing package and the temp never budged towing uphill.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

I have the tow package as well, trans cooler and temp gauge, - all the good stuff. I took it to the dealer before the towing season, they could find nothing wrong. I had them change the thermostat just for peace of mind. My truck sits, sometimes for weeks at a time, so I'm thinking the radiator is starting to block up.... Overall, it's a very good truck! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/08/full-37-48148-161.jpg

Crush

08-29-2016, 01:36 PM

Anybody have a Featherlite? Curious on quality?
Thx

Verne_Frantz

08-29-2016, 01:44 PM

Charley has one for sale. See the classified section.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Crush

08-29-2016, 02:07 PM

Cool I'll look for it

Charley Lillard

08-29-2016, 02:48 PM

Sold it but a friend has one I think he is selling. Great trailers.

Crush

08-29-2016, 02:49 PM

Let me know plz

Charley Lillard

08-29-2016, 02:59 PM

PM sent.

Crush

08-29-2016, 05:00 PM

Got it
Thx

Jim_Hauls

08-31-2016, 12:35 PM

From someone who is on the road every day:

Nothing wrong with an enclosed trailer built in Georgia.
I have owned (3) enclosed trailers built by Arising Industries in Fitzgerald, GA.
I have visited their factory several times.

I bought each one from Tim at Colony Cargo LLC - also in Fitzgerald, GA.

Colony Cargo LLC Link (http://www.colonycargo.com/)

Full steel perimiter frame - no outriggers.
I would never buy an aluminum frame trailer - the roads in this country are in shit shape.
I " wear out " a trailer in a few years ....
One piece roof.
Custom features can be added.
All my enclosed car hauling trailers are custom built.

I don't drive cars on & off my trailer - I winch them with a wireless remote.
I haul project & concourse level - my interior is plain jane wood.

Jim

Crush

08-31-2016, 12:56 PM

Great info and great pics!!

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

08-31-2016, 05:41 PM

Curious, how do the bad roads effect an aluminum trailer - do they go 'out of square' or break from fatigue or....??

Late BrakeU2

09-01-2016, 02:35 AM

TPD out of Sacramento, had four of them over the years wouldn't get anything else. Mine have all been for racing,proprietary laminate incredibly strong- you can put 5-6 people on the roof at the track try that with aluminum. Best resale out there in my experience.

Jim_Hauls

09-01-2016, 04:43 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious, how do the bad roads effect an aluminum trailer - do they go 'out of square' or break from fatigue or....??
</div></div>

Marlin,

Some trailer manufacturers do not cut tubing to fit - they " fill in " with the weld.
Some welds do not completely bridge the gap.

As I stated - the roads in this country are in shit shape.

Aluminum framed trailers - those with the base frame as well as sidewalls & roof framed from aluminum
tend to flex more readily because of the characteristics of the material.

You can't adequately inspect an enclosed trailer beyond crawling underneath to see if
wear & tear are stressing & cracking welds.

My trailer I am running now is full perimeter 8 inch steel tubing that is 3/16" thick.
The center tonge tube is also * inch and runs clear back to the first axle.

Empty - my 34 foot custom car hauler weighs 6000 pounds.

Jim

Charley Lillard

09-01-2016, 04:47 PM

How many miles a year do you average ? I think most of us probably tow a fraction of the miles you do.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY

09-01-2016, 07:50 PM

Bummer, my heart was set on an ATC or even better - a Goldrush.....

Jim_Hauls

09-01-2016, 09:33 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How many miles a year do you average ? I think most of us probably tow a fraction of the miles you do. </div></div>

Charley,

In a good year I might see 85,000 miles.

I " wear out " a trailer in about (3) years.

Sure - more miles accelerate wear but the interstate road system nationwide is in such poor
condition- you can tow 1000 miles a year & equate that to 25,000 miles in wear & tear.

Everything I learn I pass along .....

Nothing is stronger than a properly constructed full steel perimeter steel frame enclosed trailer.

Jim

Tommy Nolen

09-02-2016, 03:56 AM

Hey,
Why do you use the barn type doors in the rear instead of the ramp door? Just wondered, I'm sure you have a good reason.

MosportGreen66

09-02-2016, 10:48 AM

Dave and I own a 24ft enclosed Triple B trailer we purchased used from a dear friend in about 2002 or so. Figure it was a few years old before we got it. It stays outside and has some topical rust but with regular brake, light, tire, and cosmetic maintenance, it has been a total rock for us and considering our purchase price, has paid for itself 1,000 times over in last 15 years. The best part of the trailer [aside from the large side door] is the low profile height which is perfect for gas motor trailering. We haul with a 2011 Denali with a 6.2L V8, tow package (I think 4.10s and 8,000lb tow capacity). We'll never own a diesel truck so not having the wind drag (extra strain on the motor), is a big plus especially mountains (up or down). The trailer has a useful life of 20 years which we're approaching and I'm confident we'll get that + more out of the investment. Seldom seen but really high quality piece.

Dan

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Jim_Hauls

09-02-2016, 12:39 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey,
Why do you use the barn type doors in the rear instead of the ramp door? Just wondered, I'm sure you have a good reason. </div></div>

Tommy,

I haul a variety of transportation related cargo.

My first enclosed trailer had a ramp door with extra hinges on the bottom.
It wore out from daily use in less than a year.
I need an 8 foot rear clearance door because I haul tall vehicles on occasion.

Rear barns doors actually cost more than a ramp door.
I requested (5) hinges per door to save on hinge wear.

My ramps are commercial quality American Made by Discount Ramps in Wisconsin.

Jim

Verne_Frantz

09-03-2016, 06:07 PM

I just happened to notice this detail on the hitch of the inTech. They bothered to clock the gold washers. They also use RTV at all the seams. Notice black RTV next to the black hitch and light gray RTV between the two aluminum pieces. Extra steps to make it "just right".
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-1145-48425-hitch_detail.jpg

Tommy Nolen

09-03-2016, 11:41 PM

Thanks Jim, I figured there was a reason for your doors. Interesting job you have.

Jim_Hauls

09-07-2016, 01:27 AM

Tommy,

It takes a few years to get established.

I really enjoy traveling the lower 48 states, the cars are always great
and 98% of the people are great as well.

I never know what I will haul next .... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

I just transported (3) 1970 Mopart cars for an owner/builder from Fresno, CA up to Bandon, OR.
All were 440 six pack cars - all were very nice.

Then - I took a 1938 Cadillac complete roller from Toledo, WA east to Billings, MT.

Then - I drove empty back to Toledo, WA to pick up a complete 1936 Pierce Arrow 7 Passenger Sedan roller.
It is the bottom image - shown loaded in the trailer @ss first because of the weight.

It is the heaviest Pre WW2 car I have hauled to date - just over 6000 pounds .... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Jim <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

wheelhop

09-27-2016, 03:32 AM

Thought I'd post some pics of my 99 Haulmark trailer 24 foot. Just re-painted outside of trailer and re-did the inside as well with fresh paint and 2" ramps so driver side car door now opens fully.

wheelhop

09-27-2016, 03:35 AM

that was before, now some in progress and then after pics.

wheelhop

09-27-2016, 03:38 AM

now some pics in use at KC Chevelle Regional in Kansas City, Kansas.

wheelhop

09-27-2016, 03:41 AM

Sorry for some of the sideways pics <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

wheelhop

09-27-2016, 03:54 AM

Here's a few more I forgot to post

Postsedan

09-27-2016, 11:17 AM

Much improved, nice trailer resto <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

09-28-2016, 03:32 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Much improved, nice trailer resto <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan </div></div>

"Hanke's Chevelle Repair and Trailer Restoration" <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Looks good Jim!

Van

Crush

09-28-2016, 03:55 PM

Looks great Jim. Did you have to do anything to the frame in terms of cleanup painting etc.?

CamarosRus

09-28-2016, 08:40 PM

Has anyone considered using E-track on floor (under tires) with that strapping system
that goes over tires ?????

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wheelhop

09-29-2016, 12:37 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crush</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks great Jim. Did you have to do anything to the frame in terms of cleanup painting etc.? </div></div>

I'm thinking about tackling frame next. I'm sure it's a bit crusty under there after 17 years of service in Midwest and don't want to open up a huge can of worms.
Possibly wire brush the crusty stuff and then use POR or a similar rust product.

I did put new axles on this trailer is 2011.

SmallHurst

09-29-2016, 01:13 AM

I have not pictures up of my trailer, but it has served me very well. I am glad to have purchased the trailer I have and would it to anyone.

I have a 2005 H&H enclosed-- 24' V nose. 5200# axles. Switched to Load Range E's on the 15" rims and that has made all the difference.

Trailer Aid or nailed dimensional lumber as a ramp to get a flat tire up off the ground.

Cordless impact is worth its weight in gold.

E-track in the floor has worked well and given me flexibility to tie down anything.

3/4" marine grade plywood floor has held up well.

Bonded aluminium sides and roof mean no rivets. Smooth and clean.

The lights are LEDs and any exposed metal for the frame were covered in Line-X.

Just had another weekend pull to Michigan and back. 1700 miles and it was ready for another weekend out.