Vintage Hurst Loc /Out

[MECTransAm]

does anyone have the installation instructions for a vintage Hurst reverse Loc/Out...the style that mounts between the shifter body and mounting plate..
i have one and if i tighten the upper shifter mounting bolt tight..it will not allow you to move the lever up or down ..if i back it off a couple turns all works well...so what would keep this from backing out and loosening?...wondering what the trick is here...thank you

[67 Nova Boy]

Have you tried a LOC nut?

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[earntaz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you tried a LOC nut?

Dave
67 Nova Boy</div></div>
Yup -- NyLoc or sometimes called an aircraft locknut ... TAZ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

[mockingbird812]

Sort of on topic..... Al (Alss) Galdi had a fascinating video that he posted on Facebook that showed how each locking nut/washer faired wrt to untightening when exposed to vibration. Hey Al, can you post that to school all us ignorant dudes?! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sort of on topic..... Al (Alss) Galdi had a fascinating video that he posted on Facebook that showed how each locking nut/washer faired wrt to untightening when exposed to vibration. Hey Al, can you post that to school all us ignorant dudes?! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif </div></div>

Was this the site you're talking about?

http://www.nord-lock.com/

[mockingbird812]

I believe that is it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKwWu2w1gGk) . Certainly dispelled some of my conceptions!

[EZ Nova]

Jamb nuts and silicon. Set first nut where it moves freely, then mark it. Back it off and put some silicon on threads, move first nut into where it moves freely, then jamb the second tightly against the first. The silicon on the threads asks like a rubberize loc-tight and usually keeps that type of parts from coming free.

Hope this helps, John

[MECTransAm]

thank you everybody for the replies..i think the locknut..jamnut....w silicone sounds like a good idea..i will give it a try....

['56 150]

i found my original loc/out instruction sheet if you still need it.

[MECTransAm]

Hey '56 150....Thats awesome..i'd like to see them...could you message them to me or email?..thank you!!!

['56 150]

i emailed you some pics of the sheet.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-12094-49892-loc_out.jpg

[Postsedan]

Love the Shifter.....welcome aboard <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I hope to find one of these reverse lock outs.....

Anybody?

Ryan

['56 150]

Thanks Dan, I love the shifter too!
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-12094-49894-loc_out_3.jpg

[MECTransAm]

Thank you very much...'56 150..i appreciate it greatly!

[Lynn]

Finally, a thread about a &quot;reverse lock out&quot; that is really about a reverse lock out. Drives me crazy when people reference the reverse interlock device on 69 and newer cars and call it a &quot;reverse lock out&quot;. When was the last time you were locked OUT of reverse by one of those things? They don't lock you OUT of reverse. When you remove the key (assuming it is working properly) it locks you IN reverse.

Back to your regularly scheduled program. Sorry for the rant and the hijack.

[MECTransAm]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-18927-49920-20160903_1236461.jpg
finally got it installed....thanks for everybodies input!!!

[MECTransAm]

Anybody else care to send a photo of your Vintage Hurst Reverse Loc/Out...installed?

[Jetstuff]

Hi MECTransam, Been lurking on this forum for years, finally joined when I read your post.... I got some experience with HURST Shifters and thought I'd add my 2 cents. Running with the bolts loose is a bad idea, you'll end up breaking the lower (smaller) bolt eventually if you shift hard enough long enough. You should be able to tighten the shifter mounting bolts without having the reverse lock out bind up. If it locks up like yours is, 90% of the time the small hairpin shaped spring that preloads the sliding part popped under the sliding plate, causing the plate to bind when the bolt is tightened. The spring should fit in a little groove on the edge of the sliding part. Once it's back in place, bolt the plate in behind the shifter without moving the sliding part, as any movement can cause the spring to get stuck under the slide again. After everything is tight, try and move the lock out from the top, If it moves, then attach the rod and red knob. If it still binds, check the back of the shifter body and the shifter mounting plate for burrs, ect. I've also seen the thinner steel mounting plates bend, and bind the loc out. ( I'm a (AHHEM ) Ford guy, so the mounting plates are pretty thick steel or aluminum and don't bend....)Also make sure the reverse loc out itself isn't bent or bowed...

You should see what I'm talking about with the spring when you take the loc out out. If not, I'll try and post some pic's

John

Here's a pic I found on the internet, you can see the little spring on the right....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/10/full-20205-50494-lockout.jpg

[Postsedan]

Welcome aboard John <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Dan

[MECTransAm]

Hey jetstuff..welcome aboard and thank you for your input,,i will do some investigating..i have it installed and backed the nut off around 2 turns and loctited it and at the moment it's working great...but i'll take the shifter off this weekend and check that spring......the loc/Out i installed was a brand new NOS and i thought all was working great.....i also have another one mocked up on my Hurst shifter display, i could never tighten it up all the way either..it's installed the same way as my car...thanks again!!!

[MECTransAm]

Ok Jetstuff..i understand what you are saying, ,56 150, Bob Richards, helped me out this afternoon and i got it, so anybody installing these make sure the hairpin clip does NOT slip underneath the sliding plate..i had a mockup trans and an extra one ,so it works great with the bolts as tight as i can get them, now to take it back out of my car and hope for the best when installing it...Thanks for everybodies input..

[scuncio]

Found this decent looking lockout for sale if anyone is interested (NOT MINE)...looks like it has been adapted for a more rearward offset....

http://ebay.to/2ejwfeO

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-7wAAOSwal5YCV0x/s-l1600.jpg