69 70 nova guys

[Donnie]

you ever see a shifter and ball like this?
no muncie on it just a T and the ball looks marbleized.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-2313-48796-img_0185.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-2313-48797-img_0184.jpg

[scuncio]

Maybe a Saginaw shifter. Never seen a ball like that....

[WILMASBOYL78]

I have seen that 'T' marking before...Saginaw 4 spd. I think we have a console version with the same mark. Low horsepower V8 applications got the Saginaw wide ratio tranny. Limited audience for that item..

-wilma

[L78steve]

I had a 72 SS 350 El Camino with a Saginaw and that stick.Do not recall which ball it came with.
Swapped it out for a M-20 and a Hurst.

[Donnie]

Tom, how do you tell the difference between a console shifter and a non console?

[Bill Rose]

Donnie...The console shifter kicks the handle over to the right so it comes up thru the center of the console. The non-console shifter is more straight up and comes thru the floor closer to your leg.

[Donnie]

can anyone help with where the clutch return spring goes? a pic would be helpful

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, how do you tell the difference between a console shifter and a non console? </div></div>

The biggest difference is the physical size of the shift handle....the bench seat unit is longer and taller. Console shifter will have a more upright aspect to the handle to make it work with the console setup.

I believe the spring attaches to a tab that is mounted on the driver's side exhaust head pipe to manifold connection...that's how it is on the BB cars.

[earntaz]

Donnie -- I've attached two pics from my 71 Nova Assembly Instruction and Chassis Service Manual's ... may be the same as yours. TAZ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-10261-49179-001.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-10261-49180-002.jpg

[earntaz]

AND I found another picture on line ... TAX http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-10261-49181-clutch_spring.jpg

[Donnie]

Thanks Craig! thats what I needed just got it hooked up.
I had that first pic, but it had to little info.

[earntaz]

Great Donnie -- get er' runnin' ... Craig

[Tommy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/2012-05-12_18-20-10_520_zpsef9addd1.jpg

This shifter is original to a 68 Nova I own. It looks a lot like yours. Original Saginaw 4 speed car with console. There is no &quot;T&quot; on this one.


Tommy

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Small block return spring setup is like the pic on page 1. BB is different setup, the way Tom Williams explained.

[earntaz]

Tom -- do you have a pic of the BB setup? Does anyone else? I'd like to add that to my archive ... THANKS! TAZ

[earntaz]

As Tom indicates, this looks like the BBC setup to me ... TAZ

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-10261-49222-bbc_clutch_spring.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/09/full-10261-49223-clutch_sprg_bbc.jpg

[crash]

Here are some pictures of 1967-68 Camaro/1968-72 Nova console shift handle, and 1968-72 Nova bench seat handle...

Hope this helps... Crash

[JoeC]

I think those Nova Muncie sticks were 68 to 71 Nova as the 1972 Nova SS350 used the Saginaw 4 speed. The 1972 Nova SS 350 was down on HP and used the Saginaw 4 sp trans and 10 bolt rear

[L78steve]

The last 12 bolt usage was on the 71 Manual shift Nova SS.