1967 L78

[vette5762]

The 1969 post made me wonder! How many 1967 L78 convertibles are known to exist any way to know how many were built ?

[luzl78]

Probably 200 built.

[vette5762]

Of the 200 built do you know how many still exist today ?

[luzl78]

A couple l78 guys on this site have a running registry. Maybe one will chime in. Phil, zedder, mike p. ?

[dino67]

I'm no expert, but I've heard 100 to 125 built.

[luzl78]

Dino, you might be correct. I would rather have the lower number. Brings more of a mystic about the 4K conv camaro!

[vette5762]

Three so far, Two on this post and One on craigslist in the Ebay and other section

[cook_dw]

I know of one other that I seen only once back at Beech Bend in the mid 90's.. Thinking it was from Mo and was originally red/red.

[vette5762]

I think Phil S has a Royal Plum car so that makes five

[Charley Lillard]

Both of the actual 67 Pacecars were built as L78's. I also owned another 67 Pacecar that was a L78. A survivor 67 L78 Pacecar resides in Iowa.

[duskblue]

I know of a pace car that now has a LS6 in it

[vette5762]

Two more makes seven correct. There are more L-88's and more ZL1's then 67 4k convertibles. Is there another GM muscle car with so few examples existing today.

[vette5762]

Forgot Chris P's Bat Car that makes eight.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Considering the '67 L78 Trim Tag designation, you'd think the survival rate percentage of cars built would be higher for 67's than 69's...both being equal w/ other factors such as verifiable Original Components/Stampings/Paperwork/Pop's etc?
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~ Pete

[PhilS]

Pete,
I agree that a higher percentage of '67s have to be known because of the trim tag call out. With 1138 L78s produced we'd know of many more rags if they represented 10% of production. It seems in the higher performance engines that a lower % of rags is the norm. Factor that with a higher survival rate of rags and my guess is that fewer than 5% were built. It could even be much lower than that. Lets estimate 25 known cars and an 80% survival rate and you end up with a production number less than 3%. Of course it's all guess work but it seems pretty clear that the '67 L78 rags are some of the rarest high performance cars of the era.

[1967 4K]

I know of an early built one in West Virginia. Cowl tag says 4P but it's P Plate designates the L78 engine. Been setting for years in a garage. Going to fix it up day.

[vette5762]

I think the 67 L78's in general and the 67 L78 verts in particular just don't get the recognition they deserve, these cars are some of the rarest GM high performance cars ever built. Fewer than 5% equals 56 cars originally produced with less than 10 known today.

[Charley Lillard]

But they are not 427's.

[vette5762]

67 Z28's are more valued in the small block world, and there are many more 67 Z's than 67 L78 verts.

[1967 4K]

But they were the highest horsepower Camaro produced in 67. How many of the known cars have born with engines?

[66 L78 ragtop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vette5762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two more makes seven correct. There are more L-88's and more ZL1's then 67 4k convertibles. Is there another GM muscle car with so few examples existing today.</div></div>

There are fewer known 66 and 67 L78 Chevelle convertibles known today.
I believe the number of documented 66 L78 Convertibles known is 3.

I have never seen a real documented 67 L78 Chevelle convertible but one is apparently scheduled to run through Mecum.

[dino67]

Did George's high option Marina Blue Camaro get counted from MCACN?

[vette5762]

No, that makes nine so far, did not know about the 67 L78 Chevelle convertibles that has got to be the lowest

[iluv69s]

i remember seeing a 4k vert at carlisle years ago...it was that torquoise color. I believe it was an automatic also.

[luzl78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1967_4K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But they were the highest horsepower Camaro produced in 67. How many of the known cars have born with engines? </div></div>i have the born with engine for my car.

[Kurt S]

Via the db, just shy of 20% of 67 L78's are convertibles.
Interesting, that's also true for 69.

[bigsixman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i remember seeing a 4k vert at carlisle years ago...it was that torquoise color. I believe it was an automatic also. </div></div>

It must have been added as the T-400 was not available in 1967 with a L-78.

[vette5762]

20% is approx 220 cars, the 9 cars listed equals less than 5% still remaining today. There may be more cars yet to be discovered, but I don't think the number will increase by much, maybe 1 or 2. Thanks Kurt for the information. That leaves approx 900 coupes that were built, any guess how many coupes are known to exist today.

[bugsy]

Friend of mine has a red on red L78 coupe with 22K original miles and 1 repaint. Car is amazing.Sold out of Reedman in Langhorn Pa. Does anyone have an approximate date when the first batch of 67L78 cars were built? Just curious.

[luzl78]

I believe there are about 50 l78 verts accounted for. Couple of guys say they have them on their private registry

[resto4u]

march/april 1967 ?

[Zedder]

2 Canadian cars that I have seen over the years and a member here from Alabama has one that he is restoring...

[vette5762]

Zedder: Any more info on the gold car on c-list, did you see a pic of the trim tag ? Unofficial count of twelve is a long way from 50. Of the 20% number from CRG does the private registry confirm 50 that were built or 50 still remaining today ?

[vette5762]

luzl78: Do you have any numbers for remaining Coupes ?

[Charley Lillard]

[quote=vette5762]Zedder: Any more info on the gold car on c-list, did you see a pic of the trim tag ? Unofficial count of twelve is a long way from 50. Of the 20% number from CRG does the private registry confirm 50 that were built or 50 still remaining today ? [/quote Proteco plate and purchase contract for the gold Craigs list car. Notice the 273 posi rear. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-23-53611-image4.jpg
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[vette5762]

Charlie is the car still for sale ?

[Charley Lillard]

nope

[vette5762]

Didn't think so, your latest purchase ? But Charlie it's not a 427 !

[Charley Lillard]

Not mine. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[Zedder]

No, they never responded to my email...

[Charley Lillard]

Interesting thing is the orig. owner lived in Milford Michigan. That is where the GM proving grounds is.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Is anything known of Anthony B's war service record, note the Jan '68 ad below from Lansing MI which is 50 odd miles from Milford?
If seeking more history, Ancestry.com lists an Anthony B. who passed away in Oakland MI in '78 also there's a phone # online for a 78 year Joan in Milford.
I have a bunch more 67/68/69 L78 Convert' ads saved...better posted here or over in the Old Newspaper Ads thread?
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~ Pete

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[427TJ]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Proteco plate and purchase contract for the gold Craigs list car. Notice the 273 posi rear. </div></div>

An M-21 (close ratio) and 2.73s? So a dog off the line but a runner at the top end?

[mrays]

Anybody know if this car is an original L78 or just a nice clone? It was at Mecum Indy in 2009. Unfortunately I didn't write down the VIN or take a picture of the trim tag.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-18308-53649-67_camaro_l78.jpg
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[olredalert]

----Pretty nice clone, if it is!......Bill S

[PeteLeathersac]

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Hope it's real too!
Sam Pierce who has/had a few Copo cars?
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~ Pete

[L72copocamaro]

Whomever ordered that car must have been going for gas mileage.

[Charley Lillard]

George Olson's loaded 67

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[69L78]

another member had told me that Grumpy had the first early March 4k car, I have the engine for an April car T0413MQ VIN212578 from Community Chevrolet, Berwyn, IL, production date 04/27/1967

[scuncio]

Van Camp Chevrolet sold a lot of muscle in this area. That gold 4K convertible must have been out of the area for years - I would have remembered seeing it around.

[luzl78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">George Olson's loaded 67

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-23-53654-3529.jpg
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</div></div>george's car, I feel is the best l78 conv. In the country

[vette5762]

I did include George's car in this list, Just didn't know George's name. It is at the top , along with Phil S car because of Royal Plum as one of the rarest colors.

[Chevyfever]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/use...789_4460491_n.j (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/12/full-13073-53693-17370_294004617789_4460491_n.j)
Bat car as raced I prefer this version. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[KENNY PASCOE]

Had a Marina Blue Blue Deluxe int 67 RS SS L78 Convert a few years back . Born with engine , replacement trans original 4:10 rear . Had headers on it and was a good driver condition car with an older restoration ..

[dino67]

I remember seeing a Royal Plum L78 SS/RS at the Fred Gibb car show around 2003. The owner's name was Mike. I think he lived in the LaHarpe area. Has anybody else seen this car?

[1967 4K]

A guy from Michigan named Richard had a Plum Crazy vert with white top. He used to be with Jim Stubbins at some Camaro shows in the late 90's and 2000. Can't remember his last name .

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vette5762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">20% is approx 220 cars, the 9 cars listed equals less than 5% still remaining today. There may be more cars yet to be discovered, but I don't think the number will increase by much, maybe 1 or 2. Thanks Kurt for the information. That leaves approx 900 coupes that were built, any guess how many coupes are known to exist today. </div></div>

I spoke to Kurt tonight. He meant 20% of the L78's he has in his database, not GM production records.

[Kurt S]

Yup, the 20% number was generated via our database. There's all kinds of biases built into the data. But it's a good guestimate.
btw, 50 in a registry seems plausible. There are 35 in our db.

[vette5762]

Phil (rare4K) has a total of 151 67 L78 cars in his datatbase in various stages of restoration, of that total 29 cars are convertibles. Phils registry is the only resource I have been able to confirm, other than CRG. With a possible 50 cars still existing, I am suprised that more cars have not surfaced.

[1967 4K]

Wow, those 4K cars must really be a rare Camaro. Wonder if any of them have born with engines?

[169indy]

Seattle area Red 67 4K
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[Vortecpro]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vette5762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two more makes seven correct. There are more L-88's and more ZL1's then 67 4k convertibles. Is there another GM muscle car with so few examples existing today. </div></div>

How about a 1967 Camaro convertible L89 ?

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vortecpro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How about a 1967 Camaro convertible L89 ?
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Anyone know of the one in this below 1994 ad and if a real L89 car?
It's L78 week over on the old newspaper ads thread, L78 'Verts galore also lots more saved still to post.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/683566/30
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[bigsixman]

L-89 option came out in 1968 for Camaro.

[Vortecpro]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">L-89 option came out in 1968 for Camaro. </div></div>

Thanks for the correction, I have 1967 mixed up with 1968.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Forgot that too although dealer installed alloy heads possible for 67's.
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~ Pete

[6t7 camaro]

Actually, the triple blue L78 is owned by George Oleskiewicz. Congrats go out to him for being the cover feature on the February 2017 issue of Hemmimngs Muscle Machines. That car is stunning. This year he brought a 1967 RS/SS 396/325 convertible to MCACN. Butternut yellow with a deluxe yellow interior. That car was beautiful also... he does really nice work.

[6t7 camaro]

I apologize the Butternut SS car was not RS equipped.

[firstgenaddict]

This was 2007 GM nationals
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[6t7 camaro]

That one's nice too. Similar to George's, but built 2 months later and a white top.

[KENNY PASCOE]

I purchased that car in 2010 . Real deal and a great driver to boot ... KP

[rare4k]

Kenny, that was a great deal on that convertible

[KENNY PASCOE]

Thanks , I was happy to own it .. KP