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black69
12-06-2016, 11:35 PM
http://www.volocars.com/vehicles/13770/1969-chevrolet-camaro-rs-ss-396

Does not look like a great restoration that would please most here, but if its real, and the docs are real, its cool to see a Chicago car survive the rust, and still be in Chicago. Only posted as its an RS and its got docs and its a 4spd.

ds1
12-06-2016, 11:49 PM
Don't know now, but Volo used to be a top of the line dealer. They bought a 67 GTO plum mist convertible from us and had it only 23 days.

scott s
12-07-2016, 12:14 AM
I would be suspect u could,nt get houndstooth in a conv it was not avail except in the pace cars only....It just didn,t hold up in a conv......

Lynn
12-07-2016, 12:19 AM
Hate to be a wet blanket, but....

I am not liking that trim tag at all. And, as Scott mentioned, houndstooth wasn't even available in verts other than pace cars.

Why is original owner's name and address smudged out on the POP (two places) and the sales contract?

Very late car; shouldn't an L-78 have an 8000 tach?

Front subframe horribly dented, which is common, but should be corrected on a high dollar car.

Deep rust pits on the firewall were just painted over.

CAUTION fan sticker?????

Born30YrsLate
12-07-2016, 12:19 AM
I'd be very skeptical...could not get convertible in the houndstooth interior except the orange houndstooth in the Pace Cars...."window sticker" states white houndstooth interior...no pic of trim tag...I'd say it was recently built to be pretty.

Lynn
12-07-2016, 12:23 AM
Tag:

m22mike
12-07-2016, 12:25 AM
Repop tag. Lynn you forgot the cheap ass chi neeze booster.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/sick.gif

Woj
12-07-2016, 12:32 AM
Lotta lipstick on this one. Pretty, but not at that price. Sheesh.

Lynn
12-07-2016, 12:33 AM
Darn oldtimers disease. I wasn't even sure on the booster, but figured that's what it was. Looks like a total &quot;put together&quot; mutt with fake tag, fake docs, and HUGE profit margin.

cook_dw
12-07-2016, 01:14 AM
That's a terrible repo tag..

m22mike
12-07-2016, 01:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a terrible repo tag.. </div></div>

Arnen't they all. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif

Kurt S
12-07-2016, 02:26 AM
124679N683308
It used to also have a fake broadcast sheet....

Stefano
12-07-2016, 02:40 AM
NCRS report could at least confirm the selling dealership.

Mr70
12-07-2016, 11:37 AM
Volo is a 4 letter word.

DW31S
12-07-2016, 12:06 PM
Besides the fact that it's counterfeit (has anyone ever used that term to describe a car?), it would look better with a white top.

olredalert
12-07-2016, 01:21 PM
----Whats with the black door panel pockets?.....Bill S

black69
12-07-2016, 01:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NCRS report could at least confirm the selling dealership. </div></div>

that's a great idea on this car. I do know of a camaro that lost its tag to sandblasting accident (tape blew off tag, blaster did not notice until it was too late). No doubt, this car had a blaster heavily focused on that firewall near the tag.

I did a quick search on that dealer, and it was definitely open into the 70s.

Stefano
12-07-2016, 04:37 PM
Dealership was open into the 90s I believe. The tag is a fake repro. I doubt it was on when the firewall was cleaned up.

bbbentley
12-07-2016, 05:41 PM
I'd say that &quot;caution fan&quot; decal is real &amp; authentic and therefore makes this car real...deceptive! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

Lynn
12-07-2016, 05:45 PM
The only reason to get the shipper report would be to prove the car DIDN'T come from City Chev.

It shipper says it DID come from City Chev, it lends absolutely no credence to a car that has a fake tag, fake POP, fake purchase agreement, and, according to Kurt's records, used to also have a fake broadcast sheet. I wouldn't waste fitty cents to find out any more about this car, let alone $50. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Anyone know someone at VOLO? Their rep is on the line, and they should be informed about the fraud they are helping with. Like so many of these, VOLO probably took the owner's word for it, and they may have no idea that it is a total fraud. Reminds me of the black L89 in Florida a couple years ago. Totally made up from top to bottom, including docs.

DW31S
12-07-2016, 06:43 PM
&quot;Oh what a web we weave.......&quot;

njsteve
12-07-2016, 06:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Anyone know someone at VOLO? Their rep is on the line, and they should be informed about the fraud they are helping with. Like so many of these, VOLO probably took the owner's word for it, and they may have no idea that it is a total fraud. Reminds me of the black L89 in Florida a couple years ago. Totally made up from top to bottom, including docs. </div></div>

They have a horrible rep already for offering cars like this.

Craig_Maiorana
12-07-2016, 07:02 PM
It says SOLD .. I really hope someone did some investigating first

cook_dw
12-07-2016, 07:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a terrible repo tag.. </div></div>

Arnen't they all. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif </div></div>

True..

And as for the caution fan sticker goes.. Chris (cwc) on here said something that stuck with me.. Caution Fan; Caution car..!!..

Mr70
12-07-2016, 07:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig_Maiorana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It says SOLD .. I really hope someone did some investigating first </div></div>

That means nothing there,as many buyers buy a car there,then leave it be @ VOLO and pay their monthly storage fee while new possible owners walk buy it weekly...THIS is where VOLO Auto Museum makes it's bread &amp; butter,on storage fees.

Craig_Maiorana
12-07-2016, 09:03 PM
See now that I did not know. I know very little about the place just that they were reputable at one time and judging by what you guys say their reputation has dwindled quite a bit.

black69
12-07-2016, 09:43 PM
I called over there, and talked to one of the salesman I know, car is gone, they already got the wire. Had a backup buyer too.
Came out of a collection down south.

Ragtopfan
06-07-2017, 04:22 AM
Car is up for sale at Volo again. Seems the person who bought it in December is ill and needs to sell. Does anyone think this car could be a real RS/RS L78? For sure the trim tag has been replaced but how can you tell the POP and Dealer Invoice are also fake?

Charley Lillard
06-07-2017, 01:49 PM
The dealer invoice is fake. To explain why..You could not get that houndstooth interior in a convert. They made a fake trim tag that shows the houndstooth and then made the fake paperwork to mimic the fake trim tag. My guess would be they had to take the car back because the buyer figured out he was sold a fake car.

Charley Lillard
06-07-2017, 01:51 PM
I also don't see a pic of the trim tag in the current ad ?

Mr70
06-07-2017, 02:04 PM
VOLO selling 124679N683308 for $130K
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/971180/1969-chevrolet-camaro-rs-ss-for-sale-in-volo-illinois-60073

x77-69z28
06-07-2017, 02:09 PM
The dealer invoice is fake. To explain why..You could not get that houndstooth interior in a convert. They made a fake trim tag that shows the houndstooth and then made the fake paperwork to mimic the fake trim tag. My guess would be they had to take the car back because the buyer figured out he was sold a fake car.

That's exactly what I was thinking Charley!
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