1969 Z28 Crossram Camaro

[YenkoZ28]

I am selling My very Rare code 76 Daytona Yellow 1969 Crossram Z28 Camaro, This car is #1 concourse Restored car with the factory Chambered exhaust and all of the correct #s Matching Components. This is an amazing car and is very hard to find with the GM original crossram assembly. Thanks Jason 703-508-9399 Feel free to call with any Questions. Asking $85,000.00

[John]

... Wow , What a bunch of nice Camaros <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

... Are you in Manassas, Va.

... Are you the owner of All American Streetrods?

All American Streetrods, Manassas, Va. (http://allamericanstreetrods.com/bestof.html)

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[YenkoZ28]

Yes that's me. Thanks

[mike1971]

Nice collection you have there sir!

[YenkoZ28]

Thank You.

[bcmiller]

Any way to get a better/clearer pic of the tag? How about the engine, transmission and axle stamped codes?

[YenkoZ28]

Block casting code is 3970010, pad code # V0608DZ, Transmission code # 3925660, P9H19b, Tailshaft # 3857584 and the Rear axle code is 3969341NF. You can read everything on the Data tag from my end, what is it that you cant read. Thanks Jason

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YenkoZ28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Block casting code is 3970010, pad code # V0608DZ, Transmission code # 3925660, P9H19b, Tailshaft # 3857584 and the Rear axle code is 3969341NF. You can read everything on the Data tag from my end, what is it that you cant read. Thanks Jason </div></div>


Well that is interesting.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif


Can you post a pic of the stampings please?

[YenkoZ28]

Hey Darrell I will try to post something in the next few days, but curious as to what you think is interesting? Thanks Jason

[cook_dw]

June 8th of 1969 was a Sunday. What is the axle code? 341 is the casting date.

[92646]

Jason,
Is the crossram assembly GM original including the air cleaner? By chance does it include the fiberglass hood? I know some people prefer not to install the hoods because they tend to crack and never fit that well. You have quite a collection of Camaros.

[69L78]

your description of the rear code 3969341NF is the casting number for the center section of a 1970 Camaro or Nova not the code on the axle tube. The center section for 69 Camaro is 3894860 NF

[camaromb]

Late built '69 Camaros did use the 341 cast number housing.

[YenkoZ28]

Yes the Crossram is the original GM assembly , the carbs are original crossram carbs and the air cleaner is the original GM air cleaner. This has the steel cowl hood not fiberglass.

[NorCam]

Can you post some pictures of the carbs and air horns with the breather off please. I'd like to see more on this car with more supportive pictures if possible. Pictures with actual shots of the engine pad stamp, intake casting numbers, and also carb numbers and dates would be appreciated. Thanks

[92646]

Jason,
If you are going through all this trouble to take all those pictures requested could take several pictures of the crossram air cleaner base starting from the inside please?

[dannystarr]

I sent this info on this car to a friend, as he was REALLY interested. JUST what he was looking for, color and all. He began getting funds together to possibly make an offer. Then 53 hours and change later, in ANOTHER auction, all of a sudden the block [TO THIS CAR} MIGHT not be the matching numbers block original. I am confused. WHY wasn't this mentioned in the original 51 word description?? WHY did it take someone asking questions at another section of this site to get this info? I just wrote a 6 THOUSAND word description with over 350 pictures and video's. I am tired of these vague 30 second descriptions. What a shame, my buddy in LA is very saddened by this updated info. And if it cannot be verified, that is a 20 to 25K hit right. That's what I was taught on these Camaro sites. So should I expect a new price any day now of 60 to 65K?.. Danny

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69L78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">your description of the rear code 3969341NF is the casting number for the center section of a 1970 Camaro or Nova not the code on the axle tube. The center section for 69 Camaro is 3894860 NF
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Not only did they change to the 3969341 on late built cars, but that change coincided with the addition three letter axle ratio designation ( C added ) used in 70 and up. For instance 373 code was now CBU.

[Charley Lillard]

Dannystarr..where is this other auction.

[PeteLeathersac]

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It may be the reply to Jude's question in the other thread he's referring to Charley?
Click below and note the 2'nd last post on the page...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...28-c#Post690723 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/690723/re-1969-nickey-chevrolet-z28-c#Post690723)

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~ Pete

[dannystarr]

That is correct Pete. Sorry, I said auction, I meant just another for sale ad on this site. Danny

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dannystarr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I sent this info on this car to a friend, as he was REALLY interested. JUST what he was looking for, color and all. He began getting funds together to possibly make an offer. Then 53 hours and change later, in <span style="font-weight: bold">ANOTHER</span> auction, all of a sudden the block [TO THIS CAR} MIGHT not be the matching numbers block original. I am confused. WHY wasn't this mentioned in the original 51 word description?? WHY did it take someone asking questions at another section of this site to get this info? I just wrote a 6 <span style="font-weight: bold">THOUSAND</span> word description with over 350 pictures and video's. I am tired of these vague 30 second descriptions. What a shame, my buddy in LA is very saddened by this updated info. And if it cannot be verified, that is a 20 to 25K hit right. That's what I was taught on these Camaro sites. So should I expect a new price any day now of 60 to 65K?.. Danny </div></div>

Not sure why you are on this rant. He said in the other thread they apparently can't find a vin stamp to confirm ? I don't see where he is misleading anyone. I see things are are not right but I might know Camaro's better than him. I have owned Z28's that I'm sure there was no vin but was the orig. engine. I like the fact that he didn't stamp the vin. It would be very easy to stamp a very common impossible to read vin down in that area and nobody would be able to tell. No need to trash or say the car is worth 25K less. As with any car you or your friend should do their own inspection. Does it have anything like a protecto plate that would match the stamping on the engine pad ? Can we all please not nitpick every item we see on a car ? This is what will keep people from posting on this site.

[YenkoZ28]

This is in Response to Dannys Comment I said in the other ad that i cant 100 % confirm the vin # on the block Because you can only make out 2 #s of the vin In the side of the block by the oil filter. If you are Familiar with these blocks that Pad where they stamped the vin # is a very Course pad so it can be very hard to detect the vin on that surface. Me as the owner would say it is the #s Matching Block but to others they would say different. So with that being said I am going to say it is a #s Matching block But you will make your own opinion. Thanks Jason

[Charley Lillard]

Thankyou.

[YenkoZ28]

Thank You Charley For the Response. Im not trying to mislead anyone, as my new post will tell.

[dannystarr]

This is my point. What if I didn't happen to LOOK in the other thread? It's just frustrating, that's all... WHY wasn't ALL the info about the 2 #'s stated in the FIRST ad? It's just NOT that tough. Ok so you're not trying to be misleading, that's great. Shouldn't have to BE a new post talking about NOT being misleading. How come nobody can see this.. ?? Everyone in the hobby knows the Engine is the heart of the car and the most important for collectability. At LEAST give THAT info. Why should we have to fly 10,000 miles to get such info? Give us everything ya got. THEN we can analyze and decide if we wanna make the trip out. Doesn't seem to much to ask.

Not trying to personally trash anybody. Believe me, if I was, you all would know it. I have way to many friends as it is.. And I surely don't wanna be kicked off the site only having posted 4 times! There is a reason why many people on THIS site bid on my old car. I seen it all in the bid history. I guess I just wanted a little higher standard. To bad for me I guess... D

[Charley Lillard]

You were really gonna fly 10000 miles without talking to the seller and asking him questions ? I think anybody in their right mind would have asked for stamping pics and information before sending money or jumping on a plane. I don't think there was any need for him to post in the forum that the vin is hard to make out. People will tend to jump to conclusions like you apparently have.

[RST]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You were really gonna fly 10000 miles without talking to the seller and asking him questions ? I think anybody in their right mind would have asked for stamping pics and information before sending money or jumping on a plane. I don't think there was any need for him to post in the forum that the vin is hard to make out. People will tend to jump to conclusions like you apparently have.

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You Da Man Charley <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[sixt9rsx33]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You were really gonna fly 10000 miles without talking to the seller and asking him questions ? I think anybody in their right mind would have asked for stamping pics and information before sending money or jumping on a plane. I don't think there was any need for him to post in the forum that the vin is hard to make out. People will tend to jump to conclusions like you apparently have.

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You Da Man Charley <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif</div></div>

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[KENNY PASCOE]

I know Jason personally and i can say he is not a person who would misguide or mislead someone . I can see to a point how reading an ad can get misconstrued but bottom line is make the phone call ask your questions and do your due diligence . As Charley mentioned posts and rants like this prevent members from posting on this site . Unfortunately i fall into this category for the reasons mentioned . KP

[ruc]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sixt9rsx33</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You were really gonna fly 10000 miles without talking to the seller and asking him questions ? I think anybody in their right mind would have asked for stamping pics and information before sending money or jumping on a plane. I don't think there was any need for him to post in the forum that the vin is hard to make out. People will tend to jump to conclusions like you apparently have.

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You Da Man Charley <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif</div></div>

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[Steve Shauger]

This forum is for owners to sell their cars. There are always questions one might have, and it's best to email, PM and last resort post. What we don't want happening is casting a cloud over the legitimacy or integrity of a car.

If there are known issues with a car please email the moderators and we will investigate. Remember we do have a satisfaction guarantee on items sold on the site.

Just for the record, in many cars I've inspected it's been difficult to read the VIN stamped in the rough casting, and in some cases it's impossible or never stamped.

GLWS

Lets get back to selling this car, which is the intent of this forum.

[YenkoZ28]

Thank you Kenny I appreciate that. Hope to see you soon.

[YenkoZ28]

SOLDSOLDSOLD

[BJCHEV396]

Congrats Jason!

[Stefano]

Congrats!

[Charley Lillard]

Good for you..

[YenkoZ28]

Thank you