Motion L88 Hoods

[cook_dw]

Did the Motion L88 hoods have molded holes for the hood pins or were they drilled upon installation.?.

[COPO]

Drilled.

[cook_dw]

Thanks. Next question.


Did the original hoods have nuts glassed in or did it have wood or ???

[JoeC]

I have a what I believe is a 1st gen Camaro Motion L88 hood
The top and bottom look like the others I have seen

It definitely has some type of metal thread inserts molded in to the fiberglass.
I can see rust on the 3/8-16 threads.
I can't tell how large of an insert is there since all that is visible is the threaded holes with the fiberglass covering the surface.

I would think it is larger then a standard nut , probably a piece of steel flat stock with a threaded hole

[cook_dw]

Ive posted pics in the past of the hood I have and I am curious of its origin. It has the molded holes for the pins and has the steel inserts molded in the glass. One has actually come loose and Im pretty sure that is what damage the hood. I am working on getting it fixed, painted and will hopefully be installing it on the 67 with the fly eye air cleaner.. I can see what looks like a yellowish white finish on the underside below the black paint.. Pretty sure its not an original Motion hood but definitely old..

[bbbentley]

Pretty cool old piece there D.
I would like to know what hood pins are correct for a Camaro of that period? and where are they located normally? I would think in the holes where the bumpers in the core support are,? The location of those in your L88 hood have me questioning the exact correct location. I have a pr of 1/2 in. and somewhere (can't find) a pr. of 3/8 in. Which , again would be most accurate for a 1st Gen. Camaro? My instincts say 3/8"?

[cook_dw]

Location on this car (granted not the L88 hood are at the bumpers.. This hood of mine are further inboard. First 2 measurements are the passenger side hole and the other 2 are driver side, followed by the hole dia.

http://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90087&stc=1&d=1487866761

[iluv69s]

Did Joel use L 88 hoods prior to 1970?

[cook_dw]

Now Im do not know the exact history of this car but I think it was ordered along with a 69 Chevelle for a guy in Mexico.. Not sure when he purchased it though..

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp198/SPIKEYZ0/facebook_1345077187jpg.jpg



EDIT:

Ahh.. Here we go..

http://www.carguychronicles.com/2011/12/427-camaro-chevelle-baldwin-motion.html



You also have this 68 with the L88 hood. Again I do not know the history outside of what is mentioned on Mecum site when it was for sale in 2016.

https://cdn1.mecum.com/auctions/fl0116/fl0116-229810/images/fl0116-229810_12.jpg

[JoeC]

yes the L88 hood was used on some 69 Camaro Motion builds

that 68 Motion car had the hood added to replace its first glass hood

[anodyne33]

That Roberto Schnider/Jim Lynch car... Seeing it in person is on my bucket list. If I get to hear it I may just shut up and give up and lay down and die.

[whitetop]

The earliest Motion hoods I have seen from actual cars (from old photos)was made via "Chopper gun" i.e.e sprayed fiberglass and the underside of the hood was very rough like the backside of a new fiberglass bath tub.

The red hood (Cook dw) in the above photos is a prime example of a very early hood made via chopper gun

Later most companies started to mold the underside smooth as most are today.

[cook_dw]

Good to know!!!! Pretty safe to say my hood wasnt an original Motion hood but wish I could pin point roughly the time frame. At least now I know it is an early version. Thank you!

[whitetop]

Good to know!!!! Pretty safe to say my hood wasnt an original Motion hood but wish I could pin point roughly the time frame. At least now I know it is an early version. Thank you!


Nearly all early fiberglass, hoods, scoops and bodies from every company until mid 70's was chopper gun. Mid 70's on up companies started going to hand laid fiberglass.
Hand laid was stronger and thinner

[cook_dw]

Thank you sir!!

[JoeC]

looking at your photos
where you say " molded holes for the pins and has the steel inserts molded in the glass"

I don't think that can be used to ID a hood as the hood pins would be added during installation

the flat round metal plates for the hood pins are very thin

are yours sunk into the fiberglass or did they just paint around them?

normally the round metal plates for the hood pins sit on top of the paint

[cook_dw]

The plates were on top of the paint. I assume you are referring to the plates with 4 screws holding them onto the hood. The plate are in fact very thin. They must have been precise with the drilled as there is no "blow out" from drilling the holes.. Maybe I'm not picking up what you are laying down.. As they say.

[RichSchmidt]

What makes you say that those holes are molded? They look drilled to me.

[cook_dw]

Ill double check tonight but I didnt/dont recall any "blowout" from drilling. Maybe it would have been minor and I just didnt catch it.. :dunno:

[motionsid]

I have an original hood, but it is the stinger style. I could check to see exactly were the holes are and how it was constructed if it would help any.

[cook_dw]

Finally got around to look at the hood. And yes it was drilled. I didnt catch it at first but you can see i on the underside.