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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 08:48 PM
Since moving out here, I have gone to the Sand's Chevy Show in Surprise every year. This year was no exception, but the attendance was way down. A Corvette Club runs this show, so most of the cars in the show were late model Corvettes, many fitted with Lambo doors.

Some things that I learned from some attendees;
427's were not available on Big Chevys in 1966.

No 4-speed 1st gen Monte Carlos were ever built at the factory. They were all done by speed shops.

The 454 equipped 1963 Buick Riviera RS was a terrible, trouble-prone car.

I think that was everything. :rolleyes2:

If you were wondering, I am no longer 69supersport396. Being an awesome administrator, Jody changed my user name.

And now for some photos.

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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 08:54 PM
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Mr70
03-20-2017, 08:56 PM
What?..No upside down/inside out air seals or CAUTION:FAN stickers?

CC Rider
03-20-2017, 08:59 PM
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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:00 PM
What?..No upside down/inside out air seals or CAUTION:FAN stickers?

Give me a chance. :grin:

CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:05 PM
Talked to this guy for a while. Our cars are almost the same color.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Sands-Chevrolet-Show-2017/i-Lqw6Tvw/0/XL/Show%20%26%20Cruise%20Thumbs_-38-XL.jpg

This was nice
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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:12 PM
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Sands-Chevrolet-Show-2017/i-PJtw9Vj/0/XL/Show%20%26%20Cruise%20Thumbs_-49-XL.jpg
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Birds
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Stock and not stock
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markinnaples
03-20-2017, 09:12 PM
Nice cars, thanks. That looks almost like the car Sonny Corleone was gunned down in at the tollbooth, and I never understood why Dodge didn't continue that side stripe on the Super Bee further down the side onto the doors. Thanks again for the very informative post as well as all the nice cars. I didn't know all of those "facts."

CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:16 PM
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Sands-Chevrolet-Show-2017/i-3rDPqgR/0/XL/Show%20%26%20Cruise%20Thumbs_-61-XL.jpg

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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:18 PM
N Thanks again for the very informative post as well as all the nice cars. I didn't know all of those "facts."

:haha:

CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:24 PM
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Sands-Chevrolet-Show-2017/i-nPWGj8r/0/XL/Show%20%26%20Cruise%20Thumbs_-68-XL.jpg

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Inside
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Back outside
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CC Rider
03-20-2017, 09:31 PM
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Out back
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Back on the showfield
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That's all for today. Sorry for posting these up late. Got so bored I left the show early, came home, and got involved with car stuff until bed time. The '66 now has a clutch fan, and is SO much quieter.

Postsedan
03-20-2017, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the ride "CC Rider"....I like the new handle :D

Dan

earntaz
03-20-2017, 10:54 PM
Rick -- thanks for sharing those awesome pics ... that 58' Impala is one good looking ride!! TAZ

m22mike
03-21-2017, 12:26 AM
Thanks CC...:biggthumpup:

Xplantdad
03-21-2017, 12:41 AM
At least the show was close to your house...since you only stayed for a bit :):3gears:

Bill Pritchard
03-21-2017, 01:13 AM
"most of the cars in the show were late model Corvettes, many fitted with Lambo doors."

That's almost as bad as the things you "learned" from some of the attendees :rolleyes:

Thanks for the show coverage anyway.

CC Rider
03-21-2017, 04:15 AM
Thanks guys. :biggthumpup:

I agree Bill. Those Vettes looked ridiculous.

Xplantdad
03-21-2017, 01:08 PM
Some things that I learned from some attendees;
427's were not available on Big Chevys in 1966.

No 4-speed 1st gen Monte Carlos were ever built at the factory. They were all done by speed shops.

The 454 equipped 1963 Buick Riviera RS was a terrible, trouble-prone car.

I think that was everything. :rolleyes2:

Sheesh-those guys were wrong!

1. 427's were only available in the Corvairs in 1966 :rolleyes2:
2. Only Tremec 5 speeds were available in the Monte Carlos (with the optional clutch pedal):hmmm: :rolleyes2::hmmm:
3. It was a 460 equipped, not a 454 equipped 1963 Riviera!:tongue: :rolleyes2::hmmm:

Juuuuuuuuussssssst kidding!:cool2:

CC Rider
03-21-2017, 01:46 PM
Sheesh-those guys were wrong!

1. 427's were only available in the Corvairs in 1966 :rolleyes2:
2. Only Tremec 5 speeds were available in the Monte Carlos (with the optional clutch pedal):hmmm: :rolleyes2::hmmm:
3. It was a 460 equipped, not a 454 equipped 1963 Riviera!:tongue: :rolleyes2::hmmm:

Juuuuuuuuussssssst kidding!:cool2:

Lol, don't get me started. :tongue:

I wonder if those guys shared their wisdom with others at the show. :rolleyes2:

kwhizz
03-21-2017, 05:42 PM
Don't "Question" Corvette Guy's....................................

mssl72
03-21-2017, 08:18 PM
Lol, don't get me started. :tongue:

I wonder if those guys shared their wisdom with others at the show. :rolleyes2:

I hope not!! :no: I wonder if there's something in the water they're drinking? :hmmm:

CC Rider
03-22-2017, 05:15 AM
Don't "Question" Corvette Guy's....................................

Many times they don't know the answer. :tongue:

I hope not!! :no: I wonder if there's something in the water they're drinking? :hmmm:

I try not to drink the water of my travel destination. :grin:

I can see someone trying to argue with me about 427's in 66 Chevys, since I own one. But I have no idea why the Monte Carlo and Riviera statements were made to me. None of those cars were even in the show.

earntaz
03-22-2017, 06:01 PM
OR they dream one up !!@#$

mssl72
03-22-2017, 08:38 PM
Many times they don't know the answer. :tongue:



I try not to drink the water of my travel destination. :grin:

I can see someone trying to argue with me about 427's in 66 Chevys, since I own one. But I have no idea why the Monte Carlo and Riviera statements were made to me. None of those cars were even in the show.

It's been known ever since GM made full size cars with 427s. It's in the dealer books, Technical Service Bulletins and brochures for crying out loud . There's a bunch of them still out there. It's not like documentation is purposely being hidden (well, maybe shipping docs). Colvins books have been out for a while too. Those guys must be living in a cave. They'd probably blow a gasket if you and I had our cars parked together.

Xplantdad
03-22-2017, 08:44 PM
So...you should bring your car out here Mark! :)

CC Rider
03-22-2017, 11:56 PM
It's been known ever since GM made full size cars with 427s. It's in the dealer books, Technical Service Bulletins and brochures for crying out loud . There's a bunch of them still out there. It's not like documentation is purposely being hidden (well, maybe shipping docs). Colvins books have been out for a while too. Those guys must be living in a cave. They'd probably blow a gasket if you and I had our cars parked together.

So...you should bring your car out here Mark! :)

That would be awesome! :biggthumpup:

mssl72
03-23-2017, 05:30 AM
So...you should bring your car out here Mark! :)

Well, find me a job over there!