Barn Find

[belker6]

More to come on this barn find i just acquired. In MA barn since 1982. Two owner car. All there but the radiator. Have talked to original owner, and second owner. 2 owner car. Second owner bought in 1982, put a 100 miles on it, and parked it until i bought it a couple of weeks ago. Dave

[chevyman0429]

Wow very nice score big block or small block

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Don't wash it:--)

Bring it to MCACN all dirty:-)

Ryan

[Xplantdad]

More to come on this barn find i just acquired. In MA barn since 1982. Two owner car. All there but the radiator. Have talked to original owner, and second owner. 2 owner car. Second owner bought in 1982, put a 100 miles on it, and parked it until i bought it a couple of weeks ago. Dave

Dave, cool stuff...can't wait to hear more about it!:beers:

[MosportGreen66]

More info Dave! Congrats

[belker6]

Thanks guys! Not going to wash it. Here is what I know so far after talking to original owner. Car is original / unrestored by the way. Only passenger front fender as he had a fender bender early on. Original owner street raced the car. Said he made more money doing that than at a track. He added cragars and a carburetor, otherwise untouched original condition. Original owner was in Vietnam war and decided to have his good friend, who was just discharged from the service, order this car for him so it would be finished when he left the service. He ordered the car from Baldwin Chevrolet, with the hood and some upgrades from Motion. It is an original #'s match L78 / M22 / 4:56 rear gear car in Olympic gold. I compare it to Joe C's BM Chevelle as he ordered it. By the way, he put 250 emblems in place of the 396 on front fenders. :) Needs a total restoration.

[WildBill]

Awesome find. More photos please!

[mssl72]

Now that's a cool find!! Congrats!!

[scuncio]

Cool car, congrats!

[mike1971]

Wow ! Love it!

[1967Z28]

Awesome score. Congratulations!

[BJCHEV396]

Wow congrats!!

[iluv69s]

Wow.... a real L-78, M-22 Baldwin 'motion touched' barn find survivor !!!

Congrats !!!!

[cook_dw]

Very freakin' cool..

[belker6]

More pics

[cook_dw]

Very cool.. Surprised the shortblock lasted.. Not many did! That thing is gonna look killer redone. Just please DO NOT add a spoiler!! :biggthumpup: OH and save the Cragars!!

[belker6]

Wouldn't change a thing! He said it came with dog dish steel wheels. Those are not going back on. Was a chambered exhaust car also.

[cook_dw]

Hellz yes...

[PeteLeathersac]

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What a find and serious congrats!!!
Check rear axle stamping as a '69 w/ factory 4:56 would be a Copo 9511 car!
Is there any paperwork or names to try backtracking?
Have you sent for NCRS delivering dealer info yet?
Love the 250 emblems also I'd like to see it w/ steelies and Dog caps.
YES take it to MCACN as is!!!
And you're right, it does seem a similar prep to Joe's BM Chevelle...
http://www.yenko.net/features/2004/July2004.htm

:beers:
~ Pete

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[WILMASBOYL78]

Any chance it could be just cleaned up, made road safe and driven as is...patina and all????

The world doesn't need another restored Camaro...but a survivor...never enough of them!

Good luck with whatever path you choose...great find.

-wilma

[bbbentley]

Is it alright to say, I am so jealous!? Must have said that a hundred times on this site. Where the h do you guys find this stuff? How? Love the OG. Wish my car was that color instead of HO.

[belker6]

Wilma, I agree! If it can just be made road worthy that would be nice, but probably extensive. As is it is pretty cool. No maintenance, cleaning, etc. :) Still working on docs. The original owner is golden in my eyes as it is a non "hearsay" story / history.

[Mr70]

Awesome...any overall engine photos?
How's the trunk floor look?

[belker6]

All i have thus far on the engine is a video 18.8 MB. It wont post. Has original chrome valve covers still on it. Car has 53k miles on it.

[belker6]

underside

[COPO]

Neat find. Would be interested to see axle stampings as it would really be rare if a factory 4.56 rear. Killer combo with those gears.

[Over Anxious]

Don't wash it:--)

Bring it to MCACN all dirty:-)

Ryan

Agreed :)

[Over Anxious]

What a great find! Love it

[RPOLS3]

Love it - agree with the bring it to MCACN and clean it up and drive it comments!

[Lee Stewart]

https://s26.postimg.org/kwspzdkyx/image.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/azhp6bdd1/)

[earntaz]

Ain't that the damn truth ... TAZ

[COPO140]

Can't wait to see it in person:). Nice score Dave!

[belker6]

Thanks for all the well wishes! Will have in my hands Sunday evening!

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I sent a note to Bob Ashton and Ryan Brutt to get you a personal invitation.

It would be a sin to miss MCACN this November!! I personally attended with my own Barn Find and it is one of my family's best memories:-) I asked my son recently to tell me a best memory of Papa RIP he said MCACN!!!!!

(Yes Wedding, birth of our children, first house, not withstanding)

PS: L78, M22, 4.56, BM sold, Motion items, 3 owner, low mile, original owner, etc..... all great but I think the gold paint and lack of spoilers is paramount:-)

Ryan

[belker6]

trim tag. Early Non X code

[DW31S]

Congrats! That's one helluva find there my friend. I'm in agreement with the others on the rear axle code. There is a car very close to this one at the SLS as we speak; that one is Champagne and has been restored by The Super Car Workshop and is on display.

[belker6]

I will definitely look at the axle code. I asked original owner what the rear gear ratio was, and he rattled off 4:56 right away. We shall see!

[Xplantdad]

Dave...freaking cool! Thanks for sharing thus far. It would be great and a hit at MCACN :)

[442w30]

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Check rear axle stamping as a '69 w/ factory 4:56 would be a Copo 9511 car!


What's that?

[Lee Stewart]

What's that?

COPO 9511:

http://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1112500#post1112500

[daleone3]

Hey great find....I live in Mass, just curious where you found the car? Not looking for any details, just the area, more curiosity. Good luck with getting it freshened up.

[PeteLeathersac]

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For '69 only, Copo 9511 was required for factory equipped 4:56 or higher rear axles.
Not many but some '69 A/F/X-Body cars also Corvettes built/delivered w/ Copo
9511 are known today also documents exist for Copo 9511 '69 Camaros including a
Z28 and a Copo 9561 L72 car, maybe more.
A Z-28 or other '69 w/ 9737 and 9511 would be a Double Copo!
A 9560 or 9561 Camaro w/ 9737 and 9511 would be a Triple Copo!
Looking forward to whatever the axle stamping of this car is!
:beers:
~ Pete

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[Rally sport]

Do you have any pics of the engine compartment

[belker6]

No pics of engine compartment yet, but will Monday as I receive the car then. I have a video but is way to large to post. Car was in Norwell then Pembroke.

[fiveforty]

Nice. That is like an hour from me. Docs are nice but the engine pad says it all :)

[Crush]

Nice. That is like an hour from me. Docs are nice but the engine pad says it all :)

Agreed on engine stamp!!

[Tommy]

Any chance it could be just cleaned up, made road safe and driven as is...patina and all????

The world doesn't need another restored Camaro...but a survivor...never enough of them!

Good luck with whatever path you choose...great find.

-wilma


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/Mobile%20Uploads/agreed_zpsdtinbpds.jpg

Tommy

[Bill Pritchard]

Great picture sequence there, Tommy! :haha:

[427TJ]

I wonder who was fooled by the 250 emblems? Love the lack of spoilers. Old Cragars too.

[Starship]

After the "Barn Find" display a little Simple Green and WD40. Will make an awesome Survivor!

[Tracker1]

No pics of engine compartment yet, but will Monday as I receive the car then. I have a video but is way to large to post. Car was in Norwell then Pembroke.


upload it to youtube and just post the link here. Great find!

[belker6]

Its not very good anyway. :) Only shows the intake / top of engine. I will be receiving car tonight and will post some engine shots tomorrow. Thanks. Dave

[PeteLeathersac]

...I will be receiving car tonight and will post some engine shots tomorrow.
Thanks. Dave


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And rear axle tube stampings too please!
Sorry but some of us are on the edge of our seats hoping it's a Copo 9511 car!
:biggthumpup:
~ Pete

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[Bob Jenkins]

great find! can't wait to see the pictures

[belker6]

Me to! That would be easy to forget on his part as he may have changed them, or possibly had Motion do it. We shall see. I'm hoping for at least a 4:10. :) It is what it is. Dave

[NorCam]

OK...it's Sunday night where I am? More pics and details please. :)

[bcmiller]

Nice score.

Patiently waiting in the axle and transmission stamps.

[camaromb]

I recently looked at one of the 4 documented 4.56 rear Copo Camaros and like others we have seen it is stamped BE. How would the factory handle the 4.56 gearset if the BE was assembled with the 4.10s from Eaton?

[belker6]

Still awaiting arrival. Should be within the hour. Driver was held up in traffic yesterday and exceeded his hours. Attached is my "therapy" room I put in at our business. We are in the sporting goods mfg. business. :)

[ZLP955]

Great discovery! Looking forward to more details and pictures, but in the meantime, congratulations!

[300deluxeL79]

where's that 'edge of the seat' icon....

[cook_dw]

http://i.imgur.com/R4lGMSo.gif


Or



https://media.giphy.com/media/14xevsb9mhsqmk/giphy.gif

[Rumbleguts396]

It's like waiting for my parents to wake up on Christmas morning !

[belker6]

Well, looks like a M21 / 4:10 rear. Date on rear is correct at 1118 for a 11D car. Numbers match engine / trans. Looks like Power steering / radiator gone. He replaced the passenger fender years ago. No stripe or 250 emblem. Have to fix that. :) Front wheels pretty much locked. Took 8 people to push it. Anyone want to see specific pics let me know. Odometer shows 52k. More solid than i thought. Just a bunch of scaled rust. floors / trunk look pretty good. Have to have Schoney look it over for an expert analysis. :)

[COPO]

Looks like a neat find and a good resto candidate. Is Schonye going to restore?

[belker6]

Not sure. He just called while I was on the phone! :)

[Mr70]

So nice. :)

[427TJ]

I remember ten or so years ago someone saying, "The Lear Jets are taking off as we speak." (To get to a car that came out of hiding.)

[427TJ]

Well, looks like a M21 / 4:10 rear. Date on rear is correct at 1118 for a 11D car. Numbers match engine / trans. Looks like Power steering / radiator gone. He replaced the passenger fender years ago. No stripe or 250 emblem. Have to fix that. :) Front wheels pretty much locked. Took 8 people to push it. Anyone want to see specific pics let me know. Odometer shows 52k. More solid than i thought. Just a bunch of scaled rust. floors / trunk look pretty good. Have to have Schoney look it over for an expert analysis. :)

This car need to go to MCACN just as it sits!

[bcmiller]

Interesting car. Not knocking it at all, but a few questions come to mind.

How did it go from an L78, M22, 4.56 to an L78, M21, 4.10 car?

Have you tried to get docs for it?

[Carleen]

From Team Camaro with link from Corvetteforum

http://www.camaros.net/forums/35-copo-dealer/300777-link-baldwin-barn-find.html

[Crush]

I am enjoying watching this story unfold regardless of what becomes of it!!

[belker6]

Great link Carleen! Definitely the same car. I had no idea it was for sale before. I do know the reason both radiators were out of both cars. The guys son I was told used them for a bad habit. :) Not confirming that, but what I was told.

[Mr70]

Moonshine? :blush:

[belker6]

bcmiller, no offense taken! It is what it is. I was told M22/4:56. It definitely is not after i received car and checked #'s. Keep in mind owner was recollecting 48 years ago and after talking to him a few times he didnt seem to be much of a "car guy." As far as docs, if they are there I will find them. Can be a tiresome gruelling process, but i actually enjoy the hunt. :)

[bcmiller]

Ok cool. I look forward to hearing more.

[bcmiller]

Ran out of time to edit.

Engine/trans/axle look original to me. And yes date of axle is ok.

[scuncio]

Cool car, and looks like it was stored in slightly better conditions than my L78 'driveway find.'

[whitetop]

Please don't motionize it and add motion valve covers, fly eye air cleaner etc etc. as everyone tends to do.

[belker6]

Wont happen Dave. I have found out more info and hopefully a major contact. I hope it is the right person.

[69LM1]

Still awaiting arrival. Should be within the hour. Driver was held up in traffic yesterday and exceeded his hours. Attached is my "therapy" room I put in at our business. We are in the sporting goods mfg. business. :)

Cool Monte. I miss mine.
Rich

[Schonyenko2]

Stopped up and looked the car over. Very much a street racer set up car. It is a BV coded rear. So having lived in that time period, the 1st owner knew what he was ordering. Good street set up, and some tweaking to make it hook and breathe. And some neat add ons. It would have given a COPO Camaro a good run in the day. Cool piece.

[Zman1969]

any more engine pictures please?
fixed this one

[belker6]

What would you like to see? Dave

[Devil]

Awesome find, absolutely submit the car for MCACN!

[firstgenaddict]

Great project... will be absolutely gorgeous when done. The Metallic colors just do not hold up near as well as solids.

[The Boss]

Great story - along for the ride!

[protree68]

What a great find I agree it needs to be in Chicago this year as found condition

[HawkX66]

I can't believe I missed your thread. I guess we see so many fake "barn finds" these days that I just over looked the title. Congrats!
Do you mind if I ask what town in Mass it came from? I'm from Mass and I want to puke when I find out it lived next door to me for the last 40 years lol... I saw the New England Speed Equipment sticker.

[L78M22Rag]

Terrific car... with Baldwin history, and an unmolested time capsule too! Congrats!!

[69 Post Sedan]

What a super cool find and great car!

These are just my thoughts:

1) Leave it as is and please bring it to MCACN in the Barn Finds Display.

2) After MCACN, do what you can to make it road worthy.

3) Like others said......don't restore it if at all possible otherwise it will be just another restored Camaro (no offense to other restored Camaros). Remember, it's only original once.

Kurt

[belker6]

Thanks guys. That is my plan Kurt. It might be pretty extensive to get it roadworthy, but would be neat to park next to a car in a lot and not care if they opened their door in the rear quarter. :) gonna be hard to keep my hands off of it till November. I PM'd Ashton, does he still frequent board?

[69 Post Sedan]

Yes.....Bob is on here often.

[ssl78396]

More to come on this barn find i just acquired. In MA barn since 1982. Two owner car. All there but the radiator. Have talked to original owner, and second owner. 2 owner car. Second owner bought in 1982, put a 100 miles on it, and parked it until i bought it a couple of weeks ago. Dave

Wow how time flies I remember this car for sale probably five years ago?? Talked to owner was for sale maybe a week or so then took it off market. Fairly sure discussed here on site. The talk was all about the hood! Good to see finally bought..

[Firstgenz28s]

There's something about bringing back a car with such history and significance to its original state of how it was known. Finally after a 5 year restoration process I am proud to release the pictures of my 1969 Camaro Olympic Gold born with drivetrain L78 with Baldwin add ons. I had the opportunity and pleasure to unveil the car at MCACN 2024. Hope I achieved what the car deserved.
Thank you SYC members who followed the thread of this find.

[Tuna Joe]

Spectacular! You should have left the 250 emblems on though:burnout:

[396 SS/RS]

Absolutely beautiful!

[bergy]

Love that car - perfect!

[Firstgenz28s]

LOL, I was tempted! Thank you.

[enio45]

very nice

[dykstra]

Gorgeous!! Love the car!! It looked spectacular at MCACN!

[Tarrytown SS427s]

Car looks great! Did you ever try to obtain an NCRS report for it? Would be nice to know for sure if it was from Baldwin.

[markinnaples]

That is spectacular. I love the Olympic Gold and Motion additions. That is perfect.

[RPOLS3]

Looked great at MCACN - thanks for bringing it.

[Charley Lillard]

How did I miss it ?

[Mr70]

Worth the wait. :burnout:

[Pro Stock John]

I checked out that car at MCACN, very sharp.

[RALLY]

Stunning, what a beauty. Love that color and hood Baldwin used. Outstanding resto.

[Rick H]

How did I miss it ?

You were too busy trying to run people over with your scooter.

Rick H

[Too Many Projects]

After a 7 year silence from the OP, it begs the question, how and when did you acquire a car from Iowa ? It is a very nice restoration and I read the placard, but had never seen this original thread to understand where it came from.

[SPEEDYB]

Great car

[Firstgenz28s]

Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone. This is what makes it all worth it.

[FTC]

Awesome job.