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fsc66
07-01-2017, 07:33 AM
Miscellaneous L78 Production info: (Other 396/375 HP included)
Not sure what information is already out there so please forgive the redundancies: Chevelle would include ELKY's where applicable by date:
I also included any other 396/325 rated motors:



1965 Impala. - 1838 (425 HP)
1965 Chevelle - 201 (Z16)
1965 Corvette - 2157 (396/425)

1966 Chevelle - 3099

1967 Chevelle - 612
1967 Camaro - 1138*

1968 Chevelle - 4751
1968 Camaro - 4575*
1968 Chevy II - 667


1969 Shows as preliminary so may not be final shows through Aug 1969

1969 Chevelle - 9486
1969 Chevy II. - 5262. (Includes Acadians)
1969 Chevy II. - 4951 (Therefore 311 Acadian L78's)
1969 Camaro. - 4550 final may be: 4889

* Some converted to L72 Yenkos

Paul Winvoices

Mr70
07-01-2017, 10:55 AM
1970
Camaro-600 All 4 spds.
Chevelle-2144 (includes El Camino & 18 L-89 Al. Head)
Nova-3765

fsc66
07-01-2017, 11:27 AM
1965 Impala L78
Total 1838
3-spds manuals 38
4-spd manuals 1800

1965 Chevelle Z16
Total 201
All 4-spds

1965 Corvette:

All 4-spds
Total 2157
All 4-spds

Paul

olredalert
07-01-2017, 01:03 PM
----Paul,,, I think you have that 771 figure for 396's in 65 mixed up with 65 fuelies as that is the exact number of fuelie Corvettes built in 65. They didn't have a 396/375hp Corvette in any year.......Bill S

fsc66
07-01-2017, 02:08 PM
Yep, thanks, just looked again, it was the 327/375 HP.
I made the change
Thank you,
Paul

PeteLeathersac
07-01-2017, 02:41 PM
'

Wish the 311 '69 Acadian L78's was a true # but it's not.
Isn't 311 the same # knocked around for years as '69 L89 Camaro production?:hmmm:
Good stuff otherwise Paul!
:beers:
~ Pete


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fsc66
07-01-2017, 03:08 PM
The 5262 is an exact number from GM records. The line also states includes Acadians.
It all depends on whether the 4951 number is accurate for L78's, that is posted all over?

Paul

Lee Stewart
07-01-2017, 06:37 PM
Miscellaneous L78 Production info: (Other 396/375 HP included)
Not sure what information is already out there so please forgive the redundancies: Chevelle would include ELKY's where applicable by date:
I also included any other 396/325 rated motors:



1965 Impala. - 1838 (425 HP)
1965 Chevelle - 201 (Z16)
1965 Corvette - 2157 (396/425)

1966 Chevelle - 3099

1967 Chevelle - 612
1967 Camaro - 1138*

1968 Chevelle - 4751
1968 Camaro - 4575*
1968 Chevy II - 667


1969 Shows as preliminary so may not be final shows through Aug 1969

1969 Chevelle - 9486
1969 Chevy II. - 5262. (Includes Acadians)
1969 Chevy II. - 4951 (Therefore 311 Acadian L78's)
1969 Camaro. - 4550 final may be: 4889

* Some converted to L72 Yenkos

Paul Winvoices

The 1965 Z16 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 is not an L78. It's a one year only L37. It has hydraulic lifters not solid like the L78

Lee Stewart
07-01-2017, 06:42 PM
'

Wish the 311 '69 Acadian L78's was a true # but it's not.
Isn't 311 the same # knocked around for years as '69 L89 Camaro production?:hmmm:
Good stuff otherwise Paul!
:beers:
~ Pete.

Yes - 311 L89 Camaro SS 396s in 1969

https://s17.postimg.org/rvmfz3o67/screenshot_4756.png (https://postimg.org/image/4u5utcoij/)

http://www.thecamaro.com/Production/1969-Camaro-Production-Totals-and-RPO-Numbers.php

Lee Stewart
07-01-2017, 07:05 PM
1965 Impala L78
Total 1838
3-spds manuals 38
4-spd manuals 1800

1965 Chevelle Z16
Total 201
All 4-spds

1965 Corvette:

All 4-spds
Total 2157
All 4-spds

Paul

First one should be Full Size not just Impalas. You could get the L78 in either the Bel Air or the Biscayne also.

Again the L78 was not used in the 1965 Z16 Chevelle

It can be noted that Chevrolet, with the exception of the 50 specially built 1968 L78 Nova Super Sports sold by Fred Gibb Chevrolet, did not offer an automatic for any of their solid lifter cars until the 1969 model year.

fsc66
07-01-2017, 08:44 PM
1968 Chevy II: 667

3-spd manual - 52
4-spd manual - 615


1968 Camaro 4575

3-spd manual - 27
4-spd manual - 4548

Paul Winvoices

William
07-01-2017, 09:28 PM
1969 Camaro production figures can be found in the book "Tailfins & Bowties." The data was obtained directly from Chevrolet in the ‘80s and reprinted in the book. All of the oft-repeated ’69 Camaro production numbers came from this data.

The data lists 1969 Camaro production by engine size; 230, 250, 327 et cetera. No 427 engine is listed but the figures total 243,085, same as 1969 production. COPO 9560 [ZL1] & 9561 [L72] build records always list L78 for some reason but not Z27 [Camaro SS].

Ergo, both COPO 427 options are included in the L78 totals.

The L48 [300/350] was the standard Camaro SS engine; 22,339 built. Camaro SS optional 396 engines; 13,659 built. Data shows 34,932 Camaro SS produced. Adding L48 and 396 totals, 22,339 + 13,659 = 35,998.

That’s 1,066 more than Camaro SS.

There were 69 COPO 9560 Camaros built; 1,066 – 69 = 997 COPO 9561 cars. That means the L78 total of 4,889 is inflated. Actual L78 production would be 3,823.

Just for the record, L89 was not an engine option. It was an aluminum cylinder head option that required ordering the L78 engine. Factory docs for those cars always list both. The L78 total includes the 311 L89 cars.

firstgenaddict
07-19-2017, 07:02 AM
I had stated for quite some time I had believed the L78 total for 69 to include the 9560 and 9561 programs as they were ordered as L78's to get the suspension then had a substitution list.

bbbentley
07-19-2017, 11:21 AM
I had stated for quite some time I had believed the L78 total for 69 to include the 9560 and 9561 programs as they were ordered as L78's to get the suspension then had a substitution list.

How would the L78 suspension be different than the L34-L35 optioned cars? Would not all big block cars share the same suspension parts? The only difference between any BB 69 Camaro that I am aware of, is the L78 single fuel line vs the q-jet variants have 2 lines. Your inference is that the L78 has a unique suspension, right?

scuncio
07-20-2017, 12:40 AM
Maybe lighter spring rate due to aluminum intake? Personally I think it was driven by the single 3/8 fuel line and throttle linkage due to the common Holley carb between L78 and L72.

WILMASBOYL78
07-20-2017, 01:57 AM
It has always been my understanding that there were 617 manual trans L78 cars [I assume most were 4spd] and there were 50 TH400 Gibb COPO cars...total run 667. Those numbers have been pretty well known in the hobby.

-wilma



1968 Chevy II: 667

3-spd manual - 52
4-spd manual - 615


1968 Camaro 4575

3-spd manual - 27
4-spd manual - 4548

Paul Winvoices