View Full Version : How many miles per year...$75k - $100k Car?
Zedder
01-13-2018, 07:07 PM
Just curious...those who have muscle cars in the $75k - $100k value range...how many miles do you drive them per year? Around here, I see lots os $40k drivers, but seldom see anything more valuable than that and I know there are lots up here.
flyingn
01-13-2018, 08:07 PM
I drive my Judge no more then 40-60 miles a year. The Torino about 75-100 miles a year
Zedder
01-13-2018, 10:38 PM
Thanks Frank. I figured that I might do 75 to 100 tops myself just once per week to the local cruise night.
Charley Lillard
01-14-2018, 12:25 AM
I think my Camaro has gotten close to 20k miles on it over the last 3 years.
KenMaisano
01-14-2018, 12:31 AM
400 to 1500 per year. But I'm fortunate to live in sunny So Cal. My Duster has 1600 miles on it since last years MCACN show.
MosportGreen66
01-14-2018, 12:45 AM
We drive the 69 Z about 1000 miles a year. The 70 LT1 Vette maybe 200-300? The 67 427/390 survivor Corvette... maybe 1-2 miles?
enio45
01-14-2018, 01:24 AM
We suppose to drive them???? Seriously?
Zedder
01-14-2018, 02:19 AM
My wife says we are Ed!
earntaz
01-14-2018, 02:21 AM
Sorry folks -- just lookin' at em' is not enjoying em' ... if they can't be driven, what good are they. We have enough carpet cars in the world -- classic's need to be driven to enjoy ... IMHO ... TAZ
Steve Shauger
01-14-2018, 02:31 AM
I drive all my cars, have no idea of the mileage, but I take them out in the warm weather at least 3 times a week... just local cruise nights, shows and breweries
A12pilot
01-14-2018, 06:50 AM
I drive my Judge no more then 40-60 miles a year. The Torino about 75-100 miles a year
Ffppplllpp....Frank, you don’t qualify, man! Your cars are worth WAY more than that!:biggthumpup:
But seriously, interesting post. I’d say for me, 1 to 3 miles tops. I sell them after they’re done and don’t own one long enough to drive them!!:3gears:
Or the other reason that comes to mind is it sits too long so when I go to start it, something breaks, leaks, or something else that causes cars not to start which I can’t figure out happens, so I go home frustrated and try the following week! :thumbsdown: Hey, you know? That then usually leads into the first point!!!:hmmm: HA!
Cheers
Dave
bergy
01-14-2018, 10:18 AM
I always keep one car in Florida and drive it regularly over the winter - probably 500-1,000 miles. The "trailer queens" just get driven around the block several times a year.
L72Biscayne
01-14-2018, 11:16 AM
Whatever the value of my cars which range from 50K to 200k I drive them at least a tank of gas per year others more not only to replenish fresh cam2 110 leaded but to keep gaskets and seals from drying up. I always say “ you can’t drive them when you’re dead” life is too short.
DW31S
01-14-2018, 12:33 PM
Each time I make run down the 1320 I add a little more than a mile to mine. By the time I drive from the pits to the lanes, do a burnout, make a run, slow down and drive back it totals to over a mile. So to answer your question, I don’t add too much to the odometer, but I’d be willing to bet my “fun per mile driven” is among the highest percentage! When the Camaro gets finished, should be on par with the Olds. Great topic of conversation by the way!
earntaz
01-14-2018, 12:41 PM
i drive all my cars, have no idea of the mileage, but i take them out in the warm weather at least 3 times a week... Just local cruise nights, shows and breweries
amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GrumpyJeff
01-14-2018, 12:45 PM
I don't own anything in that price range ! but my 67 Camaro I built almost 30 years ago gets driven the most & hardest, maybe 600 miles a year ? My "unrestored/survivor" 70 RS Z/28 had 32,266 miles on it when I got it in 2011, now has 33,900, I usually go thru 2 tanks off gas a year in it , And I just recently found a 3 owner 'unrestored/original paint 86,000 mile 68 Corvette 427 coupe, that I plan to let my wife & I drive the hell out of it !!! Life & Work are way to hectic to to have the time be able to get them out more. but mostly I love just hanging in the garage tinkering,& looking at them ,especially during the colder months. But I day dream all day, everyday about them. Just knowing their in the there ready to go when the garage doors comes up !!! sorry for the long post guys
earntaz
01-14-2018, 01:01 PM
I don't own anything in that price range ! but my 67 Camaro I built almost 30 years ago gets driven the most & hardest, maybe 600 miles a year ? My "unrestored/survivor" 70 RS Z/28 had 32,266 miles on it when I got it in 2011, now has 33,900, I usually go thru 2 tanks off gas a year in it , And I just recently found a 3 owner 'unrestored/original paint 86,000 mile 68 Corvette 427 coupe, that I plan to let my wife & I drive the hell out of it !!! Life & Work are way to hectic to to have the time be able to get them out more. but mostly I love just hanging in the garage tinkering,& looking at them ,especially during the colder months. But I day dream all day, everyday about them. Just knowing their in the there ready to go when the garage doors comes up !!! sorry for the long post guys
Don't be sorry -- tell it like it is ... TAZ :biggthumpup::biggthumpup:
GM Powertrain
01-14-2018, 01:12 PM
Insure the heck out of them, choose off hours to drive and enjoy the ride.
Insure the heck out of them, choose off hours to drive and enjoy the ride.
Truth.
Too many drivers are preoccupied today with electronic devices.Be afraid of that more then anything else.I pick odd hours of the week to stretch my cars legs.
I was on the expressway one early Sunday AM doing doing 25 over the limit.Cop pulled me over,and asked why? I told him because it's the safest time of the week to do this..He grinned,told me to slow down & let me go.. :burnout:
WILMASBOYL78
01-14-2018, 01:27 PM
Truth.
Too many drivers are preoccupied today with electronic devices.Be afraid of that more then anything else.I pick odd hours of the week to stretch my cars legs.
I was on the expressway one early Sunday AM doing doing 25 over the limit.Cop pulled me over,and asked why? I told him because it's the safest time of the week to do this..He grinned,told me to slow down & let me go.. :burnout:
I agree...off hours are best, especially early morning on a nice day...the cool air makes them run better :grin:
GrumpyJeff
01-14-2018, 01:48 PM
I agree...off hours are best, especially early morning on a nice day...the cool air makes them run better :grin:
Exactly ! early mornings always ! I have s few vintage Harley's same thing
Rumbleguts396
01-14-2018, 02:26 PM
My insurance policy allows 2500 miles per year for each car. I have a 1969 427 corvette and a 1969 Camaro SS 396. I drive them both to there Max miles per my current policy.
Crush
01-14-2018, 02:31 PM
Sadly, I am one of those guys that worries it will get chipped, smashed or I just will put too many miles on it. I have been this way for 40 years. The good news, I never have a problem selling my stuff because it’s so nice!!
x33rs
01-14-2018, 02:46 PM
My wife drives our 69 RS Z daily. She put just over 10,000 miles on it last year alone. I drive some of our others a similar amount. Year round driving weather in AZ does that.
enio45
01-14-2018, 03:33 PM
I'm with Bergy!!
I drove the Silver Z I just finished - concourse resto - drove it to the Pavilions 45 miles each way, mostly to shake it down but it ran great, and showed great, and was a blast to drive!
x33rs
01-14-2018, 04:01 PM
X77 car? Looked really good last night. Nicely done.
We drove ours down last night, 270 mile round trip for me with a stop over in Fountain Hills on our way through.
enio45
01-14-2018, 04:13 PM
Yep - Cortez Silver
Survivor 69/Z28
01-14-2018, 04:18 PM
Amen to those who “really” drive your cars. No offense to anyone but I can not imagine owning a muscle car no matter the value and not driving it. I live in Dallas TX and really this is the best time of the year for these old cars. Nice and cool in the 50’s. I am lucky enough to run around with some guys that have the same passion as me. We meet up for breakfast on nice sunny Saturday mornings and then all go out for some spirited driving while heading to some sort of a car event :) Miles per year? I really have no idea.
x33rs
01-14-2018, 04:31 PM
That's great to hear. We stopped daily driving new cars a few years ago. Tired of the electronics and things. Was my wife's idea. She's old school and wanted to make the Z hers to drive, so I did. I'm all for the idea and we have the weather year round to support it so why not. I used to be the guy that rarely drove them. Then realized she was right. I was tired of seeing the cars sit with minimal enjoyment, and we aren't getting any younger so my mindset has changed. Now we drive them everywhere.
Survivor 69/Z28
01-14-2018, 05:00 PM
Love hearing that you stopped driving new cars. How cool! These new cars are just appliances to me. The new pony cars are pretty darn ugly, but they do perform and I respect them for that only.
NorCam
01-14-2018, 05:04 PM
I guess I'm a bit spoiled having a great 80 mile loop through the foothills of the Canadian Rocky's where I drive my cars. About 500-800 miles a year for most of mine, but some are driven twice that and the value of them doesn't matter with me.
Ryan1969Chevelle
01-14-2018, 05:17 PM
I guess I'm a bit spoiled having a great 80 mile loop through the foothills of the Canadian Rocky's where I drive my cars. About 500-800 miles a year for most of mine, but some are driven twice that and the value of them doesn't matter with me.
Literally Gods Country, that is a bucket list item for me to drive that area in a bad ass muscle car!!!! I have such a huge bucket list!!!
Ryan
L78M22Rag
01-14-2018, 06:15 PM
I took my 1970 LS5 convertible survivor on a 300 mile drive through the Rocky Mountains last year and she performed flawlessly. I enjoyed every single mile of that trip!
Like most things in life, if you don’t use it you’ll lose it. These cars need their exercise once in a while or they’ll dry up.
NorCam
01-14-2018, 06:33 PM
For those of you in the concrete Jungles and maze of Metropolitan Interstates with toll roads, here's what Helmut and I have are lucky enough to have at our back door. Unlimited 2 lane black top...no toll roads, and best of all...no traffic! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9oaY7myEd8&feature=youtu.be
BJCHEV396
01-14-2018, 07:03 PM
Doesn't matter if you drive them everyday or just admire then sitting in the garage,we are keeping the hobby alive and strong!!
Zedder
01-14-2018, 07:20 PM
Thanks for all of the responses! I wasn’t putting anyone’s cars down with the price range I stated, that is just the value of a lot of the cars that I am interested in pursuing and I wondered if my thoughts on the number of miles I might do per year was similar to others. I got out of owning muscle cars about 10 years ago because of the crazy prices, fraud and the fact that I barely drove them. Tried air cooled Porsches and drove about 1,000 miles per year the first few years and that number dwindled as values climbed and driving in the city got worse. My wife and I have been rear ended 3 times in the past 3 years by distracted drivers. It has literally gotten to the point of choosing my routes etc. When in a fun car or when I was on my vintage Harleys to stay away from higher traffic areas. I finally sold all 3 of my bikes last year because i was becoming nervous when riding due to all of the idiots out there! I put only 230 miles on my 993 this Summer...
So perhaps it is time for me to just accept that I won’t drive them that much and that is OK. I spend most weekends in the garage and enjoy puttering around out there with my toys and talking to buddies that stop by.
L78M22Rag
01-14-2018, 11:25 PM
For those of you in the concrete Jungles and maze of Metropolitan Interstates with toll roads, here's what Helmut and I have are lucky enough to have at our back door. Unlimited 2 lane black top...no toll roads, and best of all...no traffic! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9oaY7myEd8&feature=youtu.be
Graeme, you and I have gotta get our cars on the road at the same time. Nothing I like better on the road than having another great looking musclecar to keep pace with along the way!
NorCam
01-14-2018, 11:51 PM
Graeme, you and I have gotta get our cars on the road at the same time. Nothing I like better on the road than having another great looking musclecar to keep pace with along the way!
As long as you bring that L78 Chevelle out to play. :burnout:
L78M22Rag
01-15-2018, 01:25 AM
As long as you bring that L78 Chevelle out to play. :burnout:
Ok, but I’ll be lookin at you in the rear view mirror...
x77-69z28
01-15-2018, 02:49 PM
Call out!!!!!!
Salvatore
01-15-2018, 02:56 PM
I drive all my cars, have no idea of the mileage, but I take them out in the warm weather at least 3 times a week... just local cruise nights, shows and breweries
The Z/28 and my survivor nova get driven even in the Winter as long as the streets are pretty clean.
Both heaters work well.
Fast Eddie, I heard you can not drive a gear changer. Is that correct? HUMMM LOL
NorCam
01-15-2018, 05:15 PM
Ok, but I’ll be lookin at you in the rear view mirror...
Guess we're on for next summer.
You better get yourself some nitrous...you're gonna need it. :naughty:
L78M22Rag
01-15-2018, 07:56 PM
Guess we're on for next summer.
You better get yourself some nitrous...you're gonna need it. :naughty:
Yep, that’s the reaction I was looking for!:burnout:
jdv69z
01-16-2018, 01:08 PM
Drive my 69 Z on nice days and in the country. Nice car and nice view. Car had 77K on it when I bought in 1982. Has finally rolled over and is at about 101K. It has a 35 year paint job on it, and plenty of age and defects. But still a thrill to look at and drive.
EZ Nova
01-16-2018, 01:26 PM
Sorry, but 99% of the replies are NOT what the OP asked! WHO DRIVES THERE 100K car (blue chip investment style cars) and how many miles per year. AND he's Canadian, so up here we would be driving 130K cars? LOL Sorry I think ZEDDER ment cars worth more the your typical '69 Z28's L-78 Chevelle Camaro Nova, Mach 1 Mustangs, 340 Mopar etc.
So something like LS-6 rag's, Hemi 'Cuda, Boss 429's, REAL Yenko SC cars ect. At this time in my life, my "expensive" car is my '66 Nova SS racecar. The $$$ I have in it, could have bought me a nice COPO '69 Camaro. My '69 Nova streetcar would be like he sees around, a 40K+ driving car. BUT this is also the reason I bought and built my '61 Pontiac as a driver as it's valued by Haggerty for 28K CANADIAN.
Being 52 next month, and expecting our first child (boy) the following month, I will get out of the race stuff in the not too distant future. Then the plan is to buy a keep a Blue Chip car, a playful fast OEM looking driver "Saturday Night Special" 8 second car, like my '69 Nova, and a driver style 50K car the whole family can enjoy and take on weekend trips and almost a regular daily driver.
So unless I get something like a LS-6 with 2500 miles on it, or some other extremely low mileage car, no matter what it is, I will drive it about a 1000 miles a year.
EZ Nova
01-16-2018, 01:37 PM
I appoligies if I came off pissy or anything. Just didn't think the thread went the way ZEDDER intended it too with the replies.
KenMaisano
01-16-2018, 01:56 PM
Custom Built 71 Hemi Duster Pro Touring $200K Build. 1600 Miles in the last year.
69 RS Canadian Z/28 All born with drivetrain All original sheet metal
One of the best in the world $100K. In the last Four months 500 miles
74 SD 455 T/A born with drivetrain Fully restored. $75K. 2000 miles in the last year.
Xplantdad
01-16-2018, 02:23 PM
Larry Christiansen drives his real Yenko Camaro...he's even driven it in the rain! So I guess that counts ;)
EZ Nova
01-16-2018, 02:31 PM
Now that's more like it.
Ken, I'm not on facebook, but hear there something about a SC/Rambler??? Can you elaborate.
KenMaisano
01-16-2018, 02:42 PM
Now that's more like it.
Ken, I'm not on facebook, but hear there something about a SC/Rambler??? Can you elaborate.
We built the car for SCR20, we got rained out.. and MCACN .. After some dialing in she ran 8.50s
http://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107869&stc=1&d=1516117116
http://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107870&stc=1&d=1516117090
http://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107871&stc=1&d=1516117090
EZ Nova
01-16-2018, 02:48 PM
That looks fun. Nice job.
Steve Shauger
01-16-2018, 03:01 PM
I appoligies if I came off pissy or anything. Just didn't think the thread went the way ZEDDER intended it too with the replies.
Perhaps you interpreted it differently, but his initial question was this:
Just curious...those who have muscle cars in the $75k - $100k value range...how many miles do you drive them per year?
I think the responses were spot on. Oh congrats on the upcoming birth of your son. Hopefully he will have the same musclecar interest as you....
Zedder
01-16-2018, 03:04 PM
Thanks guys and EZnova for clarifying. He is exactly right about the intent of my post. As i’ve Gotten older, i’ve Tried to have toys that I would drive, but in reality, I really don’t drive them much and wondered if others did the same. After reading the replies here, it sounds like even the driver quality cars don’t get driven much. Sure, there are some places like AZ where the cruise night cars are amazing...but I just haven’t seen those types of cars at our local cruise nights for many years. I remember meeting up with a buddy in 2000 at the Milton cruise. We both had 67 Z’s and there were 2 LS6 Chevelles and 3 COPOs parked beside us. Those were great cruise nights!
GrumpyJeff
01-16-2018, 05:00 PM
I usally don't even bother with most of the local cruise nites or car shows anymore. I most times just take a short cruise to a buddies garage to hang out, go fill the gas tank or get a case of beer or whatever. But almost every drive ends with a burnout & a hi winding blast thru the gears on the final straight away before my development. Then park it and cover it up till the next time
MosportGreen66
01-16-2018, 05:06 PM
I usally don't even bother with most of the local cruise nites or car shows anymore. I most times just take a short cruise to a buddies garage to hang out, go fill the gas tank or get a case of beer or whatever. But almost every drive ends with a burnout & a hi winding blast thru the gears on the final straight away before my development. Then park it and cover it up till the next time
Sounds perfect to me Jeff. Dave and I are in the same boat. We don't love the local cruise nights but we do love driving the cars! On a nice weekend we'll use the off hour approach to enjoy them.
We call our cars rolling therapy...
Dan
flyingn
01-16-2018, 05:19 PM
I usally don't even bother with most of the local cruise nites or car shows anymore. I most times just take a short cruise to a buddies garage to hang out, go fill the gas tank or get a case of beer or whatever. But almost every drive ends with a burnout & a hi winding blast thru the gears on the final straight away before my development. Then park it and cover it up till the next time
Same with me too. All the local shows are run by clubs who pick the same cars over and over.. Its a joke. Every 2009 Challenger with 10,000 doo dads and chrome crap on it.. Wins all the local shows.
Steve Shauger
01-16-2018, 05:26 PM
Sounds perfect to me Jeff. Dave and I are in the same boat. We don't love the local cruise nights but we do love driving the cars! On a nice weekend we'll use the off hour approach to enjoy them.
We call our cars rolling therapy...
Dan
Well perhaps I should clarify my local cruise nights. Thurdays in the summer I go downtown (5 miles) and there's a small gathering of cars on the riverfront 50-75 cars. I spend 5-10 minutes near the car and head to one of 7 restaurants for refreshments and a nice dinner with friends. I don't spend too much time at my car, but usually place a story board to answer questions.
Friday is another cruise night. There you have a band, beach, bar and snack bar. I head there one or two Fridays a month.
I've been president of an AACA region for the past 9 years and we have a lot of car related events to attend (wife permitting)
:3gears:
There still something very special about taking these dinosaurs through the gears and I'll never give that up! The tactile feedback provided by these cars can't be duplicated!!
Ambrola
01-16-2018, 05:44 PM
I find it funny that there were only 20,202 69 z's made, but it seems like a million. There everywhere you look?
jdv69z
01-16-2018, 08:32 PM
Sorry, but 99% of the replies are NOT what the OP asked! WHO DRIVES THERE 100K car (blue chip investment style cars) and how many miles per year. AND he's Canadian, so up here we would be driving 130K cars? LOL Sorry I think ZEDDER ment cars worth more the your typical '69 Z28's L-78 Chevelle Camaro Nova, Mach 1 Mustangs, 340 Mopar etc.
So something like LS-6 rag's, Hemi 'Cuda, Boss 429's, REAL Yenko SC cars ect. At this time in my life, my "expensive" car is my '66 Nova SS racecar. The $$$ I have in it, could have bought me a nice COPO '69 Camaro. My '69 Nova streetcar would be like he sees around, a 40K+ driving car. BUT this is also the reason I bought and built my '61 Pontiac as a driver as it's valued by Haggerty for 28K CANADIAN.
Being 52 next month, and expecting our first child (boy) the following month, I will get out of the race stuff in the not too distant future. Then the plan is to buy a keep a Blue Chip car, a playful fast OEM looking driver "Saturday Night Special" 8 second car, like my '69 Nova, and a driver style 50K car the whole family can enjoy and take on weekend trips and almost a regular daily driver.
So unless I get something like a LS-6 with 2500 miles on it, or some other extremely low mileage car, no matter what it is, I will drive it about a 1000 miles a year.
Oops! Sorry for my post. I didn't realize that I wasn't in the exclusive group. I know better now.
NorCam
01-16-2018, 09:17 PM
Sorry...but I read and interpreted the OP like most everyone else, and that meant any muscle car valued between 75K to 150K. There's a very wide spectrum of cars that fit into that category and it's not simply Supercars, Hemi's, Boss cars and LS6's that fit that billing.
As an aside, there are many real Camaro's, Chevelle's, Mustang's Challenger's, Dart's and Duster's with values well above the 75K range, and a good amount of them above 100K for that matter. :)
Steve Shauger
01-16-2018, 09:18 PM
Oops! Sorry for my post. I didn't realize that I wasn't in the exclusive group. I know better now.
"Drive my 69 Z on nice days and in the country. Nice car and nice view. Car had 77K on it when I bought in 1982. Has finally rolled over and is at about 101K. It has a 35 year paint job on it, and plenty of age and defects. But still a thrill to look at and drive."
You certainly are in an exclusive group! Owning a car for 35 years and still enjoying it...wow. Please take no offense, as none was intended as EZ Nova explained in a following post. Just keep on
:3gears:
Zedder
01-16-2018, 09:34 PM
As the OP, my post wasn’t meant to exclude anyone or belittle cars below $75k. I posted the $75k-$100k range because I like 67 Z’s and L78’s and they tend to fall within that category except for the absolute trailer queens. No other reason!
GrumpyJeff
01-16-2018, 10:48 PM
Wondering what you guys think about actually driving & putting miles on a very nice original un restored low mileage ( low 30's) 70 Z/28 and its effect on value if there even is any ? the car had 32,000 or so when I got it about 6 years ago, and its about ready to turn 34,000 this summer. A lot of the local guys give me crap for driving it at all, and act like I should just worship it in the garage. I highly dought it will ever get more than a few thousand more in my lifetime ?
I thought this question sounded familiar. ;)
http://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111312
Steve Shauger
01-16-2018, 11:09 PM
Wondering what you guys think about actually driving & putting miles on a very nice original un restored low mileage ( low 30's) 70 Z/28 and its effect on value if there even is any ? the car had 32,000 or so when I got it about 6 years ago, and its about ready to turn 34,000 this summer. A lot of the local guys give me crap for driving it at all, and act like I should just worship it in the garage. I highly dought it will ever get more than a few thousand more in my lifetime ?
Driving my survivors is a thrill, i don't care about the miles. I'm very cautious because they are only original once. I posted a couple of years ago my focus is on drivers and survivors. With a driver I have no worries and can drive anywhere and anytime. However for me driving a survivor is a real treat and a thrill. Enjoy the car as you see fit, and don't mis out on driving and enjoying your car.
Zedder
01-16-2018, 11:36 PM
Wondering what you guys think about actually driving & putting miles on a very nice original un restored low mileage ( low 30's) 70 Z/28 and its effect on value if there even is any ? the car had 32,000 or so when I got it about 6 years ago, and its about ready to turn 34,000 this summer. A lot of the local guys give me crap for driving it at all, and act like I should just worship it in the garage. I highly dought it will ever get more than a few thousand more in my lifetime ?
Personally, I don’t think a few hundred miles a year will hurt the car’s value...assuming it doesn’t get damaged while you have it out.
kwhizz
01-17-2018, 01:01 AM
I average 6,000 to 8,000 miles per year on my Beaters
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