Camaro Protecto plate question

[Gold70Camaro]

I hope i am posting this in the correct location?
I am finally in the process of buying a 1970 z28 camaro and wanted to confirm if the protecto plate looks real? The plate does not have engine codes as i seen before. But it is still attached to the warranty card.
Does the image of the build sheet look real?
Thanks for the help!

[WILMASBOYL78]

probably a second owner plate that was made up for the remaining warranty coverage.

-wilma

[MN 70L78]

I've never seen a POP like that for a 70 Camaro but I guess it could be like Wilma said, made for 2nd owner while still under factory warranty.
I compared your picture of the buildsheet to pictures of others I have from known originals and it looks real, right down to the details on spacing, letters overlaping lines and oddball characters.

[Gold70Camaro]

Thanks for the feedback on the build sheet
The name on the protecto plate is the same as the original owner and sales documents state and old titles. It just seemed odd no engine or axle data?
Does the protecto not add any value that its not filled out correctly?

[TimG]

I had a car with two POP's. The original owner lost his and they made another with just the VIN. Later, he found the original and I got both. They did put limited information on a replacement or second owner POP.

[owners2]

The buildsheet looks real & it appears under box D80 that your car came with the 3 piece COPO Spoiler.

[Gold70Camaro]

Does the D80 mean COPO spoiler only?
It has the 1 piece spoiler on it and no signs of ever having the 3 piece spoiler?

[MN 70L78]

There is no box D80. However, there is box number 80 but that's for some type of hose, not a spoiler.
The D80 shown at bottom of buildsheet is the same coding used for the standard 1 piece spoiler. Cars with the 3 piece copo spoiler had special hand written notes on the bottom.

[69LM1]

There is no box D80. However, there is box number 80 but that's for some type of hose, not a spoiler.
The D80 shown at bottom of buildsheet is the same coding used for the standard 1 piece spoiler. Cars with the 3 piece copo spoiler had special hand written notes on the bottom.

Correct, I have three sheets from different COPO spoiler cars. There are multiple hand written items on them. If you think this is one, you can send me a copy of the full sheet and I can compare. If theres no hand written text, it probably is not.

Rich

[Gold70Camaro]

I am more concerned about the protecto plate not having the motor and trans info i have not seen one like that and if the build sheet looked real?

Before i pay good money for a fake car. The car looks to be a very nice driver with no rust or repairs with original drive train but missing distributor and smog pump

The COPO spoiler D80 question just had me wonder if some change spoiler but from comments the car should have the one piece spoiler
Thanks

[MN 70L78]

Yeah I've never seen a factory POP like that but if it's a replacement then that would explain why it looks so odd.
I'm confident about the build sheet being real. If the VIN on the BS matches you're car then you should be good. Not sure how well you know 70 Z28's, make sure all the little telltale signs for being a real Z28 are present.

[Blown32]

I was a little worried about Dean's car, it's been for sale for years. It started off at 40,000, looks like it had multiple paint touch up's along with the engine modifications. I was also concerned about the missing build sheet information, most of the paper work looks correct though. All and all looks like a nice Z! Hope everything works for you if you make the deal

[ronzz572]

Yeah I've never seen a factory POP like that but if it's a replacement then that would explain why it looks so odd.
I'm confident about the build sheet being real. If the VIN on the BS matches you're car then you should be good. Not sure how well you know 70 Z28's, make sure all the little telltale signs for being a real Z28 are present.

I agree with Scott. Everything looks legitimate. Build sheet looks authentic. POP. Appears to be a replacement as discussed already. Look the car over real well for any questionable features.

[Gold70Camaro]

Blown32_ Do you know the car or Dean?
Is there concerns about Dean or the car i should watch out for?

[fsc66]

Sometimes it helps to try to disprove things that are more evident.
POP: VIN number matches production information for a Van Nuys car built in February as does the build sheet.
House address is legit and the house was built in 1950, so that's good. Now a very good sign is that the owner of the property is a R Collins and a D Collins.
https://www.spokeo.com/NM/Roswell/1806-W-3rd-St
I'd say that's a pretty darn good sign that POP is legit.
Here's the phone numbers

Phone numbers
(575) 623-1616

Landline
(575) 434-1890

Landline

I would call them and see if they can verify any info for you.

Good luck,

Paul Winvoices

[Gold70Camaro]

FSC66
Thanks for the additonal contact info

[Blown32]

Blown32_ Do you know the car or Dean?
Is there concerns about Dean or the car i should watch out for?

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[TAR6569]

That's a 2nd owner protectoplate. They didn't stamp those with drivetrain into. The 2 under the bowtie means it was the 2nd owner on the plate.

5-50 is the warranty coverage, 217 is the mileage. May be 21,700. Can't recall exactly. 03-0 means the car was originally placed in service March of 1970.

[Gold70Camaro]

Thanks again for all the information.
It is amazing all the knowledge everyone has to share.
I am feeling better about the car and my purchase and will be glad when it arrives later next week

I did notice on the build sheet it said custom order. could have someone special ordered it then canceled causing a new protecto plate?

[x77-69z28]

This looks just like the P-O-P from my 70Z. It had the short block replaced shortly after delivery. It is still in the original owners name. I found remnants of the original P-O-P under the carpet when I started the restoration.
Buddy
Mine is also stamped replacement on the front.

[fsc66]

Chevellestuff a wealth of information:

http://chevellestuff.net/1969/pop_intro.htm

Paul

[x77-69z28]

Paul, I can send you pics of my POP if you want. There is no 2 under the bow tie. I found remnants of the orig POP under the carpet. The CE short block is dated F of 70. Car was delivered in May. That didn't last long!
Buddy

[Gold70Camaro]

Thanks for everyones help verifying the build sheet and protecto plate information
I purchased the car, it was loaded on the semi sunday to be transported to me later next week.
Will have some more questions and detailed photo's once it arrives.

[x77-69z28]

Awesome, congrats on the purchase. Great color!
Buddy

[WILMASBOYL78]

Thanks for everyones help verifying the build sheet and protecto plate information
I purchased the car, it was loaded on the semi sunday to be transported to me later next week.
Will have some more questions and detailed photo's once it arrives.

I think everyone who replied should get to drive the car :wink:

Good luck with your Z....great color, one of my favorites.

-wilma

[TAR6569]

2 notes:

Your build sheet may be saying "customer order". I've seen that on some 70 Impala sheets.

Also, if the replacement POP does not have a 2 under the bowtie, then it's probably the original owner on the plate. As others have said, the original owner could have lost it or if there was something incorrectly stamped in it on the plant, like a typo in the vin, it would have been swapped for one of these.