Another Find

[ban617]

Hi , Patrick the guy who found the Yenko sold Ralley Green Nova , Posted a video of a 69 Ralley Green RS Z/28 with 19,000 miles on facebook ...
Anyone know this car ?

[cook_dw]

Is the car located in Gallatin TN? Not on fakebook. Link to video?

[fastco]

it is on YouTube. titled "government seized 1969 z28 Camaro rs found parked since 1971 with only 91k miles"

[fastco]

that should be 19k miles!!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

If it's the Gallatin, TN car it must be Johnny G's!!

[cook_dw]

If it's the Gallatin, TN car it must be Johnny G's!!


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[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yep, that's Johnny G's house - that's exactly where my Yenko Deuce was parked when I went to buy it, the Z was in the garage.

[TMagda]

It's cool and all, but how is it "found" if it's in the owners garage?

[MosportGreen66]

It's cool and all, but how is it "found" if it's in the owners garage?

It seems to be the common term of the times... I'm 100% guilty of calling a new-to-me acquisition a 'find' - especially when it is a recovery (dusty, dirty, untouched for years, etc).

Dan

[69hurstSC]

It's cool and all, but how is it "found" if it's in the owners garage?

It's becoming quite ridiculous, actually. People are actually now staging cars to show them as "found". Many, many of them are known to others, but all it takes is one egomaniac to write an article claiming they "found" a car. The whole "Barn Finds" theme has jumped the shark.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I saw that car in April of 1996 when I drove to Gallatin, TN to buy my Deuce from Johnny G. Frankly, I barely glanced at the Z because I was in shock about what I was about to buy with borrowed money!! :grin: Johnny was going on about the Z and the story, and the options, and the color, but.... :dunno:

[Lee Stewart]

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[big gear head]

Chrome dip stick? It's a very nice car. He's petty close to Bowling Green. Do you think he would bring it to SCR21?

[Spooky]

Just watching the video, there are a few things that jump out at me. Repop rt ft fender? (it looks Chinese dipping) and cowl tag doesn't look right to me. I may be wrong though.....

[Tommy]

The whole "Barn Finds" theme has jumped the shark.

I was a kid but I remember watching that episode of happy Days very well...


Tommy

[Jonesy]

The cowl tag looks good to me.

[GotGrunt]

It's becoming quite ridiculous, actually. People are actually now staging cars to show them as "found". Many, many of them are known to others, but all it takes is one egomaniac to write an article claiming they "found" a car. The whole "Barn Finds" theme has jumped the shark.

I couldn’t have said it any better!

[DW31S]

I'll also agree with the whole "Barn Find" thing.....although some of the "discovered" cars were/are hiding in plain sight. Sometimes the original identity has been disguised with a color change or even a model change. '67 Z/28s that had been badged as SS', Yenkos stripped of their born-with features, stock appearing cars that had significant race history and then were detuned/repainted and sold; thanks to some clever sleuthing some important cars really HAVE been discovered.

[x33rs]

Cowl tag looks okay, not that it means all that much on a Van Nuys car. I'm not 100% convinced of an original paint claim. I see the white stripe paint under the cowl which is correct and rarely done on a restoration but the rear stripe isn't correct and I believe the spoilers were added. This early of a build I believe should still be a short spoiler, and I don't see the corner support brackets on the front spoiler. Decal in the door jamb is gone.
Still doesn't take anything away from the car, very cool, I like it.

[NorCam]

Couldn't agree more on the term "barn finds" having been overused and completely exhausted. Jerry Heasley writes for MCR and I think he uses that phrase on every single car that is discovered now days

And what's with the staged video's that keep being made with every garage door that opens these days. It's like everyone wants to be part of a television gig on the History Channel. This poorly produced video is a perfect example of why they should stick to photographs. :dunno:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWP7l2AwcW8

[69hurstSC]

I'll also agree with the whole "Barn Find" thing.....although some of the "discovered" cars were/are hiding in plain sight. Sometimes the original identity has been disguised with a color change or even a model change. '67 Z/28s that had been badged as SS', Yenkos stripped of their born-with features, stock appearing cars that had significant race history and then were detuned/repainted and sold; thanks to some clever sleuthing some important cars really HAVE been discovered.

Right. Two different genres there. Cars hiding in plain sight are way more compelling to me because it takes an expert to make the connection.

[SS427]

It seems to be the common term of the times... I'm 100% guilty of calling a new-to-me acquisition a 'find' - especially when it is a recovery (dusty, dirty, untouched for years, etc).

Dan

Ditto

[lowmile]

New term "JFBTI" Just Found By The Internet.

[big gear head]

Cowl tag looks okay, not that it means all that much on a Van Nuys car. I'm not 100% convinced of an original paint claim. I see the white stripe paint under the cowl which is correct and rarely done on a restoration but the rear stripe isn't correct and I believe the spoilers were added. This early of a build I believe should still be a short spoiler, and I don't see the corner support brackets on the front spoiler. Decal in the door jamb is gone.
Still doesn't take anything away from the car, very cool, I like it.

He said that the car had been painted once and cowl induction hood had been added at that time.

[Lynn]

"Decal in the door jamb is gone."

No VIN decal until August 69, and even the first few in August may not have them.
So, and early car would not have received the decal. Doors didn't even get the two locating ribs for the decal until June or so.

Agree with others, there is nothing of significance to this car being "found". The "seized" aspect does nothing for value.

[Mr70]

I was going to mention it's too early to have had a blue VIN label in the door also,but figured PGN would accuse me of bashing the car.

[TMagda]

There is a '70 Chevelle, Astro blue, black stripes, and a '69 Z/28, Daytona yellow within 1 mile of my house. I have only seen the rears of both of them because as far as I know, neither has moved for the 14 years I have lived in this neighborhood. Maybe I can discover them!

I have spoken to the owner of the Z/28 and he is doing the "I would sell it if the price is right, but you know what they are worth at Barrett Jackson" thing, and I dropped a nice note in the Chevelle's mailbox - no response.

[camarojoe]

I have known of Johnny for a long time. There has been “stories” about this car for as long as he has owned it.. He also personally told me and several others that the car was all original including paint. I also don’t see a car being impounded for over a decade. Would like to see proof of the claims.

Also this car hasn’t been stored away. Hell it was at a local car show a couple years go in Lebanon.. think what you want but there is some bullshittery with the “custom comfort” narrator and the stories being told.


Awe c'mon now... ya'll are just jealous "haters"... alright alright alright. :)

[cook_dw]

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[x33rs]

He said that the car had been painted once and cowl induction hood had been added at that time.

He told Cook it was original paint. I believe some aspects of it are, like the cowl, but the car in general has been painted.

He's wrong about his reasoning as to why he believes the hood was added. It very well could have been equipped with it. 01B car, the hood was in production a couple weeks prior. Would need to look at the car closer. However, with that said, majority of Z's were in fact flat hood cars anyway.

I'm not buying his explanation for the stripe either. The car is too early to have a wide spoiler, it's been added. It's also missing the support bars on the front chin spoiler that so many people never add when putting spoilers on. I'm betting it has standard torsion rods in the trunk. Dealer added.....maybe, but the stripes weren't done that way at the factory on a "real" spoiler car.

I wasn't knocking the car, I like it, they're all cool. I'm not a fan of picking on someone's car and feel that's bad taste. I was more or less knocking the informant and the information that he was relaying, some of the stuff he mentioned was not exactly correct.

[big gear head]

Yeah, Cook sent me a PM and explained the original paint deal. It all makes me wish I had Wonder Woman's magic lasso to put around guys like this so that you could get the truth out of them. :D

[ORIGLS6]

Wonder Woman would be incredibly busy these days!

[x33rs]

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[cook_dw]

I wanted to clear the air if you will about Johnny and this car and why I went back and deleted my previous post. I had the opportunity to talk with him again as I have many times before over the weekend at SCR. He did tell me it was original paint. BUT, what I didn't hear or was mistaken was the fact that it had been repainted once. We had a lenghty conversation about the car. I now know the FULL story and how Johnny came to own it. Johnny is a good man and I just wanted to man up and say I was wrong.

I also talked with Patrick as well. Although he and I agree to disagree; he is doing the hobby good by bringing these cars that most have not seen or do not know anything about them out in the world of social media. We all have different personalities and we all have different senses of humor. The best thing we all can do is realize these are just cars and the people behind them are the real story and the friendships that made during the process. Nothing more needs to be said.