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John
11-03-2018, 03:01 PM


… Here is a very neat car I am sure you all would like to own :biggthumpup:

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0119-359657/1969-chevrolet-camaro-zl1/


… It will be at the Mecum Auction in Kissimmee , Florida in Jan. 2019 :flag:

olredalert
11-04-2018, 02:59 PM
----This ZL1 may give us a better idea what they are worth...…..Bill S

kwhizz
11-05-2018, 11:19 PM
Don't want to get involved in any controversy...…… But...….Lets just say Buyer beware....Back in the mid 2000's I was down in Kissimmee for the Nova Mini-Nats and ended up talking to a person that had just rebuilt a ZL 1 engine..... after talking for a while I was told that the original #15 car was pretty much destroyed and the new owner had removed all the hidden Vin #'s and had them welded into another body.....This person told me that the welding was non detectable from either side...… So....Just say'in if you are interested do your Home work....

Ken

Charley Lillard
11-05-2018, 11:33 PM
I remember you relaying that story to me. As I recall it wasn't clear to me if the shop doing the work was doing the rebody with the owners knowledge. I think I even mentioned it somewhere and heard from the owner and I relayed what you had told me. If the # sections were hammer welded in properly you would not be able to tell unless you stripped paint off and looked at the raw grain of the sheetmetal.

William
11-06-2018, 01:12 PM
There are other 'tells' to look for on a suspected re-body.

Jonesy
11-06-2018, 10:49 PM
Im sure its my monitor, but that color doesnt look quite right to be Cortez Silver.

John
11-07-2018, 10:52 AM


… Has anyone ever inspected this car ?

:dunno:

PeteLeathersac
11-07-2018, 11:21 AM
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Subject VIN 124379N609372
Not doubt a shame if a rebody but w:no:w if it happened w/o the owner's knowledge.
:beers:
~ Pete

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Charley Lillard
11-07-2018, 01:13 PM
"Restored back to original condition using GM parts or restored NOS parts"
That is similar language to what was used when the other rebodied ZL1 was sold at Barrett-Jackson. Seems to be the new way of disclosure of a rebody. They did use a GM body. I'm just not sure how much it matters anymore.

DW31S
11-07-2018, 03:45 PM
I think it would matter if you can prove it’s NOT a rebody. The real question is pricing; the column shift auto stalled in the high threes, so where will this one go???

RPOLS3
11-08-2018, 05:38 PM
Im sure its my monitor, but that color doesnt look quite right to be Cortez Silver.



Looks like it has a green tint to me as well...……...

John
11-09-2018, 12:02 PM
...

... I was at the Lakeland Auto Show in 2017 and took a few photos of the car then.

… I Believe the gentleman that owned the car was Ron Saulnier

… and lived in Spring Hill, Fl.

… but I do not know if that is the person that owns it now.

… Here are some photos I took...


https://www.yenko.net/forum/album.php?albumid=62

Charley Lillard
11-09-2018, 12:47 PM
https://www.yenko.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=62&pictureid=450

Charley Lillard
11-09-2018, 12:47 PM
I would love to see a pic of the car after the drag racing accident.

DW31S
11-09-2018, 02:33 PM
I would love to see a pic of the car after the drag racing accident.
Me too!

kwhizz
01-12-2019, 11:35 AM
Tonight is the night it go's up for Auction...…. Let's see how it gets presented....

Lee Stewart
01-12-2019, 08:20 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/WzPkfhnS/screenshot-6825.png (https://postimages.cc/)

https://i.postimg.cc/cCMnq0kW/screenshot-6824.png (https://postimages.org/)

Lee Stewart
01-12-2019, 08:44 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/QMsvsbMr/screenshot-6827.png (https://postimages.org/)

BOWTIE67327
01-12-2019, 08:53 PM
wow

Mr70
01-12-2019, 09:19 PM
And sold via a Telephone bid the hammer said.

Postsedan
01-12-2019, 09:45 PM
Now everyone will start doing re-bodies :(

Dan

SS427
01-12-2019, 10:27 PM
Not everyone! I can tell you at least one who wont.

Postsedan
01-12-2019, 10:47 PM
Not everyone! I can tell you at least one who wont.

Integrity, right there :)

Dan

kwhizz
01-13-2019, 01:48 PM
Makes you lose faith in the Pedigree of the True cars that are out there...… Maybe I should buy my old 70 Nova back and jump up and down claiming it's a real car...….LOL......Pathetic !!!!

x33rs
01-13-2019, 03:23 PM
Does anyone actually know for certain it's a rebody though? Is there any actual proof before we all attempt to form a cloud around the car? Has anyone actually inspected this car? JM report perhaps? Other photos of the car floating around?

Obviously brought good money. So the speculated rebody either isn't known, or some people feel it's just that, speculation? For some maybe that's not enough.

I think the former Reggie Jackson owned green ZL1 #27 at BJ next Saturday night might be a better example of price reflection on a known rebody.

Not meant to start controversy, just an unbiased outside observation. Interesting stuff.