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ZiggyL78
11-21-2018, 07:29 PM
Say it isn't so!!!!!
https://ls1tech.com/articles/chevrolet-debuts-ecopo-camaro-electric-racecar/?utm_source=jan16&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=content
bbbentley
11-21-2018, 10:05 PM
I could see that coming. Who would watch two electric cars drag racing? Puke!
Craig_Maiorana
11-21-2018, 10:12 PM
I saw it at SEMA and I took a photo of my flipping it off ... YUCK ....
Craig_Maiorana
11-21-2018, 10:15 PM
Test
Charley Lillard
11-21-2018, 11:09 PM
Why flip off 700hp ?
ZiggyL78
11-21-2018, 11:20 PM
Because they call it a COPO.Should have been a SS700 VOLT or something.
McCune
11-21-2018, 11:55 PM
Taxi cabs are COPOs
Keith Seymore
11-21-2018, 11:57 PM
Russ O’Blenes (quoted in the article) is my boss.
I’m in a different group than the COPO guys but we all report up to Russ.
K
seventieshow
11-21-2018, 11:58 PM
Because they call it a COPO.Should have been a SS700 VOLT or something.
Agreed. The future won't be stopped but Chevrolet is bad about recycling things like this (LS-6, LT-1, etc.).
I think these cars and this technology will be cost prohibitive for a while. I know it will be for me.
Charley Lillard
11-22-2018, 12:21 AM
ZL1 # 14 in the rear.
ZiggyL78
11-22-2018, 05:46 PM
All explained.It still sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZ_fb75j_8&t=187s
GMC_Typhoon
11-22-2018, 08:32 PM
I for one welcome our robot overlords.
x33rs
11-22-2018, 10:59 PM
I don't care for it.
We haven't liked the direction the big 3 had been heading for years. Which is why we went back 50 years, sold all our new stuff, and just drive our classics daily. Don't care for the fuel injection anymore, tired of computers, too many gadgets, too many safety features, back up camera this, lane correction that, it's just too much. And none of it seems to be helping drivers because they are still just as bad as ever, lol.
I don't see myself even watching 2 electric cars drag racing. I'm not paying to get in the gate for that. Noise, the crisp pop of high compression and the smell of high test fuel are all part of the attraction for us.
Okay off the soap box,
Happy Thanksgiving
:beers:
Lee Stewart
11-23-2018, 03:13 AM
LOL . . . what a bunch of Luddites!
https://i.postimg.cc/FKDt1fC6/Dj-CMGUg-W0-AEIei-V.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
x33rs
11-23-2018, 12:40 PM
I'm the short one in the back :D
70 copo
11-23-2018, 03:22 PM
All fine and dandy, I like the cartoon but lets look deeper shall we? I think that until we gain the technology to charge cars wireless - the current grid will not even begin to manage the draw required.
The math here is pretty simple: a home charging system for a Tesla currently requires 75 amp service - just for the car. The average small house is equipped with 100 amp service in total.
Funny but true - as part of UN Agenda 21 implementation the group tasked with nudging us plebes into technology acceptance actually takes on the acronym "eMOB".
Historically electric cars were already developed about 120 years ago, and were abandoned because of the limitation of energy that could be stored.
So I think electric cars are still dead on re-arrival with the exception of perhaps a city commuter (as a short trip car) where the existing hi voltage infrastructure is already in place for charging stations. The Chevy Bolt fits in here perfectly with a 32 amp charging station the car takes about 8 hours to charge.
The bottom line I think will be that unless these cars have at least a similar recharging time to that of a gasoline car there will be little near term adaptation by people unless compliance is forced.
Welcome to the future!
McCune
11-23-2018, 03:54 PM
Graphene.
Keith Seymore
11-23-2018, 04:01 PM
I for one welcome our robot overlords.
Me too.
I was the Assistant Program Engineer for the Gen I Volt and its derivatives. I managed the 2012 program, plus export/overseas and RH drive (including Opel, Vauxhall and Holden).
As a result I drove a Volt or Opel captured test fleet vehicle for about a four year period. The assembly plant is about 30 miles from my house, which means I could drive all the way there on one charge, top off at the plant and drive all the way home on one charge. The only time I kicked the internal combustion engine on was if I deviated from my normal route, or if we took an extended trip (like going up north).
To me, the beauty of an electric vehicle (besides not getting my clothes all smelly - and the instantaneous torque) is that you have the opportunity to move towards alternative fuel. Wind, hydro, solar, nuclear are all available for the taking. With petrol you are pretty much stuck with petrol (maybe corn).
If you haven't driven one you owe it to yourself to do so. Unexpected benefits were that they were zippy, with a low center of gravity and instant torque, and did surprisingly well in the snow (even though we worked with Goodyear to design tires that were especially low rolling resistance). They even had a "sport" mode, which became my default setting.
Did I mention instantaneous torque?
K
70 copo
11-23-2018, 04:07 PM
It appears that GM believes that they have stumbled on to the electric equivalent of the Model T, and that would explain the sudden shift to electric vehicles from a technology investment standpoint.
Word is that GM will launch two new cars soon based on Bolt technology.
JKZ27
11-23-2018, 05:01 PM
I get it. Its coming, regardless. 700hp can be fun no matter what's producing it. The environment, resources, "safety", progress.... I get it. And, I guess I'm ok with it.
But, I have a love affair with machines and harnessed fire, the simplistic beauty of oil bathed metal on metal with no logic other than mechanically operated human input resulting in perfect or imperfect, but direct, outputs. I grew up living and loving this stuff and I can't just "un-love" it now because its being replaced. I make my living working on new cars so I'm quite aware of new technology and its relevance and importance. As of right now, though, if I buy an electric car it will be out of necessity, not because I find them fun to drive.
Tenney
11-24-2018, 06:43 PM
A brace of Volts, the rascal's Performance Model 3, and a pallet of Sunoco 110 due Monday - it's pretty much a zero-sum game w/the ozone layer at our pad.
Magic carpet ride ...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlfBKd_hz8&t=53s
70 copo
11-24-2018, 06:45 PM
Well if France is any indicator on the willingness to change then the Fuel Tax imposed on the populace there is looking to be a spectacular failure. Huge protests in Paris opposed to taxes President Macron introduced last year on diesel and Gasoline which were designed to encourage people to shift to more environmentally friendly cars. In addition Macron offered incentives to buy green or electric vehicles.
Paris is literally in a riot at this hour.
70 copo
11-25-2018, 09:39 PM
The future of Hot Rodding... OMG... Thermal Runaway on a Tesla battery swap into a parade style vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdDi1haA71Q
If you quit before it's over, skip to 11:20 and listen to the comment about the battery. Imagine this fire eight times the size.
ZiggyL78
11-26-2018, 06:40 AM
The future of Hot Rodding... OMG... Thermal Runaway on a Tesla battery swap into a parade style vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdDi1haA71Q
If you quit before it's over, skip to 11:20 and listen to the comment about the battery. Imagine this fire eight times the size.
The Cowboys tried that one.The burning car looked even more dramatic compared to the horse.It didn't work;)
markinnaples
11-26-2018, 01:25 PM
I know my opinion may not be popular (and I'm OK with that), but I don't believe in man-made Global Climate Change (is it warming or cooling this time?). I think it's a big business play to make money off governments around the world, and additionally, until you get countries like China and Russia to participate to any great degree, you're peeing in the ocean and not raising the tide by just regulating the US and it's friends.
I do, however, believe that man has a significant responsibility to protect the environment and to pollute as minimally as possible so as to have a clean planet for our kids and their kids going forward.
That said, I think there is a place for electric vehicles in our future (and really don't think we have a choice at this point) and they will probably take over for ICE vehicles in most cases, but I also believe that enthusiasts will keep the ICE going through our lifetime and probably our kids lifetimes. After that, who knows? And really at that point, we're all gonna be somewhere else, so who cares.
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