1970 Cyclone Spoiler SCJ

[goernie28]

I couldn't post this in the 'ads seen' section, but I wanted to share something i found on Hemmings. '70 Cyclone Spoiler with the drag pack in competition blue with a white vinyl top. It's a combo I've never seen, but I like it. I'm a sucker for Mercurys anyway.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercury/cyclone/2178119.html

[big gear head]

Looks nice. Isn't that red light under the dash for a line lock? I didn't see the rest of it anywhere.

[mockingbird812]

Clean car!! Love the gauges all the way into the passenger compartment.

[njsteve]

The 429/460 engines looks so much bigger when they are in a small engine compartment.

Compare:

[Tenney]

Shock towers crowd things a bit!

[Charley Lillard]

I never said I was smart..

[Charley Lillard]

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[mockingbird812]

Neither did we :wink: ....but seriously, I get why you got this car. Lot of car for the money with an awesome drivetrain. Those Merc front ends just look like freight train wrt to girth. Congrats Charley - Enjoy.

P.S. we will al be anxiously waiting for your traditional driveway burnout!! :burnout:

[njsteve]

Charley,

If you want to get rid if those dingy aluminum valve covers, I'd be happy to take them off your hands to put them on Grampa's Hot Rod Lincoln. ;-)

[Charley Lillard]

Thanks Goerrnie28...ruined my week.

[A12pilot]

That's awesome!! Congrats!!

Cheers
Dave

[Tenney]

That thing's a cool weird - good score!

[flyingn]

great buy, Charley! Super rare

[RST]

I have owned a few of these ………. they are fun to drive and FAST! Love the car Charlie.

[ScottG]

429 SCJ is top dog = LS6

[442w30]

Charlie, are you going to find out how many had white vinyl top? That's what makes this car stand out from the others.

[Charley Lillard]

Then things got worse. This has been parked with the Cyclone forever and ever. I'll post it in Mopar section.

[Bill Pritchard]

Looks like you're now a white vinyl top/interior/stripe guy :)

[goernie28]

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No problem! I'm glad it went to a good home. Now you just need to bring it to MCACN. I'll take the blame properly.

[1967Z28]

Those two cars were parked in the backyard of a guy I work with.

[bashton]

No problem! I'm glad it went to a good home. Now you just need to bring it to MCACN. I'll take the blame properly.

Coincidentally, the "Big" red carpet feature display for 2019 will have high performance CJ and SCJ Mercury's on the left, Boss Mustangs on the right!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
www.mcacn.com

[Charley Lillard]

Looks nice. Isn't that red light under the dash for a line lock? I didn't see the rest of it anywhere.
I think I read it is a shift light. Yes it will be at MCACN.

[Xplantdad]

How cool! What a neat car... :)

[Mr70]

Charley,what color is your Cyclone?
Is it #2230 Competition Blue?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh10F934/10.jpg (https://postimg.cc/LJbmYQ0r)

[Lee Stewart]

Charley,what color is your Cyclone?
Is it #2230 Competition Blue?

Grabber Blue

[Charley Lillard]

Competition Blue

[442w30]

Grabber Blue

Mercury called all their fancy colors "Competition":

Grabber Green = Competition Green
Grabber Orange = Competition Gold
Grabber Blue = Competition Blue
Vermillion = Competition Orange
Yellow = Competition Yellow

[Charley Lillard]

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[442w30]

Does it say how many were built with white vinyl top?

[Mr70]

Thanks Competition Charley.

[Charley Lillard]

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[442w30]

Bummer....doesn't say.

[Charley Lillard]

I spoke to the orig. owner today. Kinda funny as he just made a offer on a house yesterday, the address was 429 and he thought about the car. Said he would beat all the GTO's in town. They had 1/4 marked off on a local street. He also raced it at a track in Salt Lake but when he put headers on it the wouldn't let him run. He sold it to a kid in Ca. that was going to put it back stock. When he sold it to the kid it had headers, scatter shield and Cragars. Still has the scattershield. He ordered it and got it in 70, sold it in 76. He has pics but they are in storage.

[Charley Lillard]

It currently has incorrect wheels. I can either go Cragars, leave existing rims on it or try to find correct rims. Correct rims I'm told are very hard to find.

[454_Malibu]

Magnum 500's or Cragars would look great,, IMHO, Nice Score,,

[goernie28]

I think I read it is a shift light. Yes it will be at MCACN.

Excellent! I look forward to seeing in it person, Charley.

[429scj]

Very nice Cyclone, this car originally came with 14x7'" steel wheels with trim ring and caps. The 1970 5 slot "styled sport wheels" were an option and would be listed on the Marti report.
The Cyclone Spoilers also had trunk prop rods like the Boss 302 Mustangs that ordered with rear spoilers.
Also, If they had come with the 4.30 Detroit locker, Mercury Division lists this option as "Super Drag Pack" which is kinda cool to see that on a Marti report.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/DZd1B3Lc/screenshot-6797.png (https://postimages.cc/)

https://i.postimg.cc/SRSCP1Gb/eee.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Which wheels are correct?

[Charley Lillard]

prop rod

[Charley Lillard]

The lower pic that Lee posted is the first time I have seen a rim that might match my spare. Spare has never been mounted and if you compare the center caps they mount differently. 429 SCJ you are the closest expert in the room ?

[Charley Lillard]

What I'm guessing is the orig. carb was in the trunk with a new float bowl added. The old bowl was also there.

[Charley Lillard]

429SCJ where do these tags go ?

[big gear head]

The lower tag goes on the rear end, but doesn't seem to match your gear ratio. It shows a 9 inch rear end with a 3.50 gear and Traction Lock differential. I believe your car has a 3.91 gear, so this tag would be from another car. Check your rear end and see if it still has the tag on it.

[429scj]

Carb is correct just need a Ford front bowl, the top tag is correct too 829A for a 429 SCJ "C" Code. All 429 1970 Cyclone Spoilers were C code, not "J" even though it was a Ram Air car, weird how Mercury did things. Big Gear Head is correct the bottom axle tag is not correct it would have a 3L91 not 3L50.

[Charley Lillard]

I have the front bowl.

[429scj]

If it's threaded on both sides you've got the right one.

[olredalert]

----Gee! Wonder where the carb will go for resto?......Bill S

[Mr70]

Pic of your gauges when you can...especially close up of the Tach.

[Charley Lillard]

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[tom406]

Judging by your spare and the build sheet, it looks like the car had the basic 14x7" steel wheels with conventional pop-on hubcap and trim ring. The hubcap is a later version of the '63-'64 era Mercury cap but simpler, stamped without "Mercury" lettering. I assume the wheel is the same as found in '70 Mach 1 Mustangs of that year. The 14x7 "Styled Steel Wheel" option was listed at $36.90. It was a new design with 5 slots versus the 12 slot '68-'69 14"x6" wheel your car seems to be fitted with. Center cap design was the same, snapping to the inside of the recessed bolt circle as opposed to outside the nubs of the conventional steel wheel. These wheels were also offered as a no cost option on 1970 Mach 1 Mustangs for just that year but continued to be offered by Mercury on Cougars in 1971. (Last photo is a '63/'64 era Mercury scripted cap of mine mounted on a Rocket chrome reverse wheel just for reference)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/brdNd40T/777.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Charley Lillard]

I need a set of the standard rims. Anybody selling them new ? I think I have the trim rings and center caps.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/rFQvFgQh/35nnn.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Same wheels used on the Cougar????

[njsteve]

429SCJ where do these tags go ?

The silver tag is the engine ID tag that bolts onto the coil bracket. Here's the one on Grampa's Lincoln

[442w30]

Also, If they had come with the 4.30 Detroit locker, Mercury Division lists this option as "Super Drag Pack" which is kinda cool to see that on a Marti report.

No "c":

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/mercury/cyclo/bilder/9.jpg

[muscle_collector]

steve honnell had a cyclone spoiler identical color to this one back in the late 80's. he offered it to me at a bargain price but I was buying a trans am he owned and only had a single car trailer. I always wished I had went home and turned around and went back for it.

[tom406]

https://i.postimg.cc/rFQvFgQh/35nnn.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

Same wheels used on the Cougar????

Not quite-all 1970 Cougar Eliminators got 14x6" wheels, 1970 Cyclone received 14x7" wheels. Caps are the same but trim rings are likely different? You can see the caps sit deeper inside the dish of the Cyclone rims in pictures. I know Mustangs had 14x7 in Mach 1 and 15x7 on Boss 302/429, but Cougars didn't. Not even Boss 302 powered ones (I do know that the 15" rims and F60-15 tires required an upgraded spindle for the Mustang to pass Ford's durability tests). Ford and Mercury did things differently on many details in that era, I've learned never to assume anything.

[tom406]

This looks like a nice pair of 14x7s on EBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1969-1972-FORD-STEEL-WHEEL-14-x-7-RIM-MUSTANG-TORINO-COUGAR-MONTEGO-MACH-1/264118943577?epid=14027614794&hash=item3d7eb73f59:g:2vUAAOSwu4dcMAZe

[Charley Lillard]

Dammit...I just bought a set from a Cougar guy up by you for more money than that. Also found NOS center caps.

[442w30]

Here's one with a black vinyl roof. I bet a white roof would be rarer.

[tom406]

Is that Blue/Black top Marti report from the restored car in Tacoma, WA that's color changed (to a very high standard) to burgundy?

[442w30]

Read again. It’s not blue.

[tom406]

My bad, I think I saw "Competition" and just assumed you posted another Competition Blue car with a vinyl top to continue your point about relative rarity.

[442w30]

The option as listed doesn’t discriminate against color.

[Burd]

Back in 1979, I was at a Grad party, I saw an Orange one, like brand new. we began talk cars, I was looking for a 442 or a T/A, Later the guy totaled it on Woodward in a race. A lady pulled out in front of him.

[Burd]

It wasn’t like this, but look at this one.


https://youtu.be/UdVY2XrTEIo

[9C1Beater]

OMG Burd...that is a freaking rare and cool car with the Boss 429 and that wicked front nose!. And the guy found it in a barn in Indiana...

[442w30]

FWIW, no mid-size FoMoCo vehicles came with the Boss 429 from the factory.

[Charley Lillard]

So I send the Cyclone to Randy the crazy guy that restored my Bonneville with instructions to make it presentable for MCACN. Next thing I know he is obsessing with gaps...On no.......

[big gear head]

Wow, that's extreme. Looks like it's coming along great. Lots of talent there.

[Lee Stewart]

Charlie:

Just remember . . . the original task was to drain the swamp . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/prm5cR2V/sey.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

[Charley Lillard]

Randy stumbled upon a build sheet.

[olredalert]

----Bingo!!!......Bill S

[Charley Lillard]

I leave him alone for a minute.

[Charley Lillard]

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[mockingbird812]

Clean body. coming right along!

[Charley Lillard]

But we were just going to paint it.

[1967Z28]

I guess that means MCACN is out?

[big gear head]

Wow. That's like me when I was a kid and got a new toy. I had to take it apart to see how it worked.

I saw the video of your carburetor being tested after it was restored. https://www.facebook.com/1572898026258582/videos/424785474756954/?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

[Mr70]

Can I send him a VCR that won't let go of a tape & keeps flashing 12:00?

[Charley Lillard]

I guess that means MCACN is out?

He says it will be ready for MCACN.

[Charley Lillard]

Today

[mockingbird812]

Lovin' it. Keep the pix acomin'!!!!!

[Charley Lillard]

Other than the obvious "BIG" any interpretations ?

[njsteve]

Is 618 (upside down BIG) the last three of the transmission part number?

[big gear head]

Big input shaft for the big block engine.

[Charley Lillard]

This is the definition of project creep.......No hurry...

[mockingbird812]

Perfection takes time. Love the color!!!!! :laugh:

[1967Z28]

Does he still say it will be ready for MCACN?

[Charley Lillard]

Yes.

[njsteve]

What year MCACN?

;-)

[Charley Lillard]

Today's pics.

[njsteve]

Is the vinyl top going back on it? Looks awesome, by the way.

[Charley Lillard]

Yes.

[ScottG]

Only SCJ cars had Holley carbs. Only SCJ cars had smog . They also had rev limiters. They also had speedo cable reducers . Nodular 9 inch cases and the engine oil cooler. That is a very high end Mercury performance car ! Four bolt mains and solid lifters ! Thanks for restoring it ..

[Charley Lillard]

And nobody has bought my 71 SCJ for 50K....go figure...:dunno:

[A12pilot]

Man...Beeeuutabulous, Charley! Looking forward to seeing it this year! Incredible work! :blush:

Cheers
Dave

[njsteve]

And nobody has bought my 71 SCJ for 50K....go figure...:dunno:

Well, you keep creating your own competition by restoring this car!

[Charley Lillard]

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[goernie28]

I hate I'm not going to be at MCACN to see it this year. I always have loved Cyclones. Good luck with the restoration Charley. It looks great.

[Charley Lillard]

Ernie. Randy needs money can you send him some ?

[Tracker1]

So the Password For Action is money? :)

[Tracker1]

Password For Action!

[goernie28]

Ernie. Randy needs money can you send him some ?

I'll go dig through the couch cushions and under the seats of the daily driver.

[Charley Lillard]

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[Xplantdad]

getting closer!! :biggthumpup:

[goernie28]

You wouldn't need another Cyclone Spoiler with a white vinyl top, would you Charley? https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-396884/1971-mercury-cyclone-spoiler/

[Charley Lillard]

No !!!! You already have me upside down !!!!!

[A12pilot]

That's so cool! Love seeing the work going on from guys that know what they're doing on upholstery! That's good stuff! Can't wait to see it... tic toc!

Cheers
Dave

[goernie28]

No !!!! You already have me upside down !!!!!

Ah well. I figured it worked before, so why not try again. It's easy inspiring other people to spend their money.

[Charley Lillard]

I think I am the King of getting others to spend their money....

[Bill Pritchard]

Looks like the "presentable for MCACN" mandate will be accomplished, in spades.

[Charley Lillard]

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[KenMaisano]

Looking good, can't wait to see it.

[tom406]

White tops must make the difference: sold for $104,500! https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-396884/1971-mercury-cyclone-spoiler/

[njsteve]

Charley, can you post some photos of your finished car? I can't be the only one who wants to see the final results.

[Charley Lillard]

I would if it was finished !!!!!

[njsteve]

UGH! Any estimated release date from body shop prison?

[68l30]

Looking Great Charlie, Here’s Chuck Mallett’s ....a long time ago!

BIG

[olredalert]

----I see Motor "Spyders"! Very cool......Bill S

[68l30]

----I see Motor "Spyders"! Very cool......Bill S

Perfect choice... eh Bill?!?

BIG

[olredalert]

----I'm partial to Fly's, but originally Red Alert had 12 inch Spyder's on the rear. Between the slicks, the tubes and the wheels they were difficult to lift at all. Took me a while but I found a set of 12 inch Fly's with the right offset and that cured the problem. Could lift the whole combo with one hand! I believe they are still on the car......Bill S

[427TJ]

Time for another update on this car.

[Charley Lillard]

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[A12pilot]

Hmmmmm.....:hmmm: I think you need to tell this guy he needs to speed things up! Does he not know this car is due for a mega-photo shoot for a highly collectible, much desirable, unconstitutional calendar that’s nearing completion? Ok, well, maybe it’s not that far along, but still.:dunno:

Looking good though!:headbang:

Cheers:beers:
Dave

[Charley Lillard]

Supposed to be ready for Good-Guys Scottsdale in a few weeks.

[Charley Lillard]

Runs.

[Charley Lillard]

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[RST]

Looking very good ….. :)

[Charley Lillard]

Down to polishing....

[Xplantdad]

Wow...looks great!:biggthumpup:

[EZ Nova]

Supposed to be ready for Good-Guys Scottsdale in a few weeks.

IS IT????

I'm planning on being there Friday morning. Flying down from Ontario Canada this Saturday for the week in Mesa to visit my mom. Was planning on taking my son (just turned 2) out as he's "car crazy" the wife says.

[A12pilot]

Beeeeyeeewwwtiful!:3gears:

Cheers:beers:
Dave

[ScottG]

Do you have any finished shots?

[Charley Lillard]

Soon

[mockingbird812]

Sweet blue to be sure!!! and so, so, so shiny!!!! :shocked:

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9hXmwCS/5tg.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

:Can-I-Have-It:

[Steve Shauger]

Wow! that looks amazing. Well done kudos to the restorer.....

[Billohio]

Beautiful

[Xplantdad]

Wow! that looks amazing. Well done kudos to the restorer.....


Agreed! Looks great :worship:

[RST]

Can I have it :)

[A12pilot]

Specfreakinawesometacular!!:blush:

Nicely done!!

Cheers:beers:
Dave

[big gear head]

:shocked: WOW!

[olredalert]

----Love it, Charley!!!.....Bill S

[mockingbird812]

STUNNING!!! :eek2::eek2::eek2:

[Mr70]

How does it drive?

[RPOLS3]

Wow - stunning!

[ScottG]

That is really , really nice.. Set screw T handle, correct air cleaner snorkel, and you put the SCJ only smog on it too! Overspray on the floor is nice! The interior looks excellent... SCJ 4 speed vacuum advance too !! Bravo..

[ScottG]

OH , I just saw the rev limiter too, Beautiful car..

[big gear head]

Is there going to be a driveway burnout video?

[njsteve]

Wow!

[carnut4life]

That car is absolutely gorgeous Charley, I want it too!

[Charley Lillard]

Had the smog etc on it before resto.

[Charley Lillard]

Drives very nice. Not much time to play with it as I had to fly home to Ca. and leave it in Az. Who knows when I can go back.....

[Charley Lillard]

To give you a idea on Randy’s attention to detail. The white plastic pins were cracking etc so he machined some new ones.

[Xplantdad]

Drives very nice. Not much time to play with it as I had to fly home to Ca. and leave it in Az. Who knows when I can go back.....


Just let me know where the keys are...:3gears::burnout:

[KenMaisano]

Wow, Love it ..Looks amazing..

[1967Z28]

Looks beautiful, Charley. Congrats.

[grantprix]

WOW... Absolutely stunning, Charley! Well worth the wait I'd say!

[PLATINUM6BBL]

Awesome car Charley! I am a fan of big Mercs

[Chazman]

Beautiful car. Beautiful job.. Hat's off to Randy!

[Burd]

Saw one at the Dream Cruise for sale - 429 CJ

[GM Powertrain]

Saw one at the Dream Cruise for sale - 429 CJ

That's my friends car. Solid Florida car.

[Charley Lillard]

Was selected as a ‘Musclecar of the Year’ finalist at Goodguys..

[grantprix]

Well deserved!! Congrats, Charley!!

[olredalert]

----Simply WOW!!! Congrats, Charley.....Bill S

[tom406]

Congratulations ��. Glad it’s getting the love.

[mockingbird812]

Sweet! Congrats Charley! :cool2:

[Tenney]

Good goin'!

[carnut4life]

Nice article on this fine car in the January 2022 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines, congrats Charlie.

[ScottG]

Looks great, nice article.

[BonzoHansen]

Nice article on this fine car in the January 2022 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines, congrats Charlie.

I just logged in to say the same, i just read it. Great car, nice article. I do love the color combo.