Barrett-Jackson 69 RS Z/28

[rlw68]

A '69 RS Z/28 just sold at Barrett-Jackson for $100K :shocked: ... anyone know this car?

124379N528950

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-RS-225307

[Danzo]

All you need
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=15826.0

[rlw68]

Thanks, I had just found that also and left a note for Bill.

[big gear head]

Why did it sell so high? What is so special about this one that makes it better than others that I have seen that looked as good or better for less money?

[cook_dw]

2 determined bidders & alcohol.

[Tracker1]

Yuck. Nope.

[tom406]

Re: those stamps-YIKES

[jdv69z]

So is Jerry M working this auction? Wonder if he authenticated it?

[Mr70]

Somewhere,someone is waking up saying,"why did I bid on this last night?"

[Steve Shauger]

So is Jerry M working this auction? Wonder if he authenticated it?


I seriously doubt it's been authenticated. I'd like to know if it has, and/ or if it's actually a requirement @ BJ. I'm guessing the owner of the cars must agree to have it done.

[x33rs]

Actually that price doesn't seem that high. Last year they sold a Cortez Silver RS Z/28 for $140k and there were things about that car that were a little off. If I remember right, it never started life as an RS originally and was converted (X77 trim tag).

It was a nicely restored car with certifications.

[x33rs]

I do believe Jerry is there as well as William (I'm supposed to meet up with William tomorrow) But I don't think they document every car unless requested?

Also doesn't appear that bidders care about being totally correct either as this car is too early for a ZL2 hood and the wide rear spoiler.

Similar instance with the Silver Z I mentioned from last year that sold for $140k. People didn't mind it was a converted RS car. I talked to William about this last year, I'm sure he remembers the details better than I do. But at least the silver car was an X77 with a real tag, so it was a documented Z.

The problem with this orange Z in question is that it's too early for the X codes, and with what I assume the general consensus is a restamped drivetrain and fake paperwork, there's no telling what the car started life as without some serious investigation work.

[x33rs]

I'll add, I think I counted no less than 12 (maybe more) 69 Z/28's on the BJ roster this week just looking at Thursday to Saturday alone.

Ignore the Sunbeam Tiger link, my wife has been wanting one of those for a while now so I'm keeping eyes peeled :)

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-RS-225307

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-225493

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1966-SUNBEAM-TIGER-CONVERTIBLE-223003

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-YENKO-226559


https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-225665

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-CROSS-RAM-COUPE-225480

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-RS-226920

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-RS-224488

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-224449

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-225872

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-227091

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-225835

[Steve Shauger]

I do believe Jerry is there as well as William (I'm supposed to meet up with William tomorrow) But I don't think they document every car unless requested?



The problem with this orange Z in question is that it's too early for the X codes, and with a restamped drivetrain and fake paperwork, there's no telling what the car started life as without some serious investigation work.


What do you have after a serious investigation? A car without it's original drivetrain that can't be definitively proven as to what it started as....


For cars that were certified it would be nice to have a link to the report or just have a few key items listed :


Original trim tag to the car X
Original Engine X
Original TransX
No restamped components X

[x33rs]

Yep that's what I mean. Doesn't seem to matter as much about the drivetrain, or so it appears. And the fact that the cars aren't restored correctly as pertaining to their build time frame doesn't seem to have any affect either. People are spending money on converted X77 RS's, style trim added, ZL2 and spoilers added, early cars with 8k tachs etc... I think this stuff, from what I'm seeing, only concerns the small group of hard core people.

Makes the blue 69 survivor that sold here look like a steal.

[dvss1]

Just saw the z28 crossram car do 82,000. Seem kinda low if what they were saying about original crossram. It was on the block for a long time.

[rlw68]

Just saw the z28 crossram car do 82,000. Seem kinda low if what they were saying about original crossram. It was on the block for a long time.


Maybe it got extra time because they couldn't find the hood latch? :)

Geez that 69 RS/SS restomod went for $220K !!!


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[sixt9rsx33]

Don't forget the auction company's have their own bidders in the crowd pushing prices. Add alcohol, people that don't care about originality, shiny paint, bright lights, and bam! Big numbers...

[x33rs]

Seeing these cars in person almost always explains why nearly identical cars sell for drastically different prices. Especially the quality of some of the paint jobs that can't be seen from TV. BJ gets a a lot of negative talk, and some of it probably for good reason, but I see these scenarios in all the auction places around here in January.

The orange cross ram car that sold for $88k appeared to have an open element air cleaner setup with a ZL2 hood. Seeing the rest of the car in person may explain more. The black cross ram Z sold for $121k with day 2 mods, but at least had a correct air cleaner for the ZL2 hood, I believe it to be one of Mike Kaiser's cars.

The Glacier Blue Z sold for $99K, the Daytona Yellow Z went for $85k, orange Z for $88K, then you have a green Z that goes for $69k, and a dark blue one for $83k. Of course some of these are RS Z's that help the price.

Prices fluctuated all over the place. I saw that with LS6 chevelles too. Prices everywhere. There are 3 or 4 more Z's that go tonight.

[seventieshow]

"Seeing these cars in person almost always explains why nearly identical cars sell for drastically different prices..."

That can not be emphasized enough. You really need to see these cars in person to see the differences in quality of paint and restoration. That usually (not always) explains the difference in price, along with things like color preference (Hugger Orange is very popular).

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

So many TRUTHS being said here. I get calls and emails about the same thing regarding 66/67 SS Chevelles that are either FOR SALE. SOLD. or at AUCTION. Why did that one sell so cheap ? or why did that one sell so high? and all things inbetween.

I watch cars sell that I know are restamps. Some Good restamps. Some Obvious restamps. And there's no rhyme to reason why people buy some of these cars with or without verification. Alcohol. Deep Pockets. Stupidity. or Blind Belief that an authentication report is Gospel. Sometimes the in person viewing does show a car that's as nice as it appears, but we aren't always privy to seeing the tags, the stamps, the docs, or verification reports. Often, those in the know.... Don't bid because they have knowledge others do not. Some times it's just ego, or the I LOVE IT, GOTTA HAVE IT... that makes one sell and another not, so many factors. But in the end, I'd never base a SOLD car or its price on what I've not seen or don't know. Mom said do your homework..... For good reason :)