2020 Corvette

[Charley Lillard]

New mid engine Vette unveiled tonight. Mid engine, 495 hp and 0-60 under 3 seconds. Price starts under 60K. I like it.

[the427king]

Hopefully the twin turbo 1000 hp version is under 150K and available in a convertible of some type .....very nice looking car

[Charley Lillard]

It has a lift off top and trunks in front and back. Rear trunk will hold the lift off top or two bags of golf clubs.

[ss427copo]

My wife already said “NO”. “But Hon, it’s an automatic too, you can see better out of it than the ZL1” “Jeff, what part of NO did you not understand?”

[mssl72]

Looks nice!

[Lee Stewart]

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[Late BrakeU2]

Will sell like hotcakes at 60k,even with only two pedals. Hope they offer the LT2 in a Camaro before they axe it.

[COPO]

Looks nice!

Yes, I agree it's greatly improved from the current model and a true performance bargain.

[Lee Stewart]

The entry-level C8 Corvette will make 490 horsepower and 465 pound-feet of torque from the new, 6.2-liter LT2 V8. That's 35 more than the current Corvette Stingray, and if you opt for the performance exhaust, output increases to 495 hp and 470 lb.-ft.

That nose may be shorter than on the current Corvette, but it's still liable to find the ground on steep driveways and the like. The 2020 Corvette can raise its schnoz by 40 millimeters and can save up to 1,000 locations where it'll automatically lift.

For the first time, the Corvette will be available with the steering wheel on the right side for UK and Asian markets.

[70 copo]

WOW! That design is full of angles... I am having trouble finding a good curve to admire.

Strange but to me the test car in test camo was less busy.

Perhaps I will like it better in person.

[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[70 copo]

Lee,

I get the fact that the car is all tech. I get the fact that everything is all new.

Undoubtedly this will be the biggest roll of the dice since the last restyle of the Silverado-and that roll out illustrates why radical and new does not always translate into “like” to a buyer.

At least it is gonna be cheap.

[HawkX66]

Anyone that has dreamed of Ferraris and Lambos is going to love it. I love it. Very tempting, especially at that price point.

[John Brown]

Needs moar doo-dads on the dash and console to take your mind off the driving part. /sarc

[70 copo]

Anyone that has dreamed of Ferraris and Lambos is going to love it. I love it. Very tempting, especially at that price point.

Inside ball from GM is that the C8 forms a permanent shift from the Corvette being an American sports car to a global sports car with global appeal.

[Lee Stewart]

There Are 12 Paint Colors

The colorful exterior and interior palette is reminiscent of the exuberant GM Art and Color offerings of the 1950s and early '60s. The first three listed below are all-new among the car's debut roster of hues.

Rapid Blue
Zeus Bronze
Accelerate Yellow
Torch Red
Arctic White
Black
Blade Silver Metallic
Shadow Gray
Ceramic Matrix Gray
Long Beach Red
Elkhart Lake Blue
Sebring Orange

There Are Six Interior Color "Themes"

Jet Black
Sky Cool Gray
Adrenaline Red
Natural/Natural Dipped
Two-Tone Blue
Morello Red

There Are Six Seatbelt Colors

Black
Blue
Natural
Torch Red
Yellow
Orange

There Are Two Optional Stitching Colors

Yellow
Red
Standard black interiors come with Sky Cool Gray stitching

[Lee Stewart]

There Are Three Seat Options

GT1 - a sporty style seat with emphasis on comfort, with good support for performance driving situations. Mulan leather trim, optional two-way lumbar support, and bolster adjustment.

GT2 - A middle-ground seat added to the Corvette lineup because too many customers were checking every box and getting Competition Sport racing seats as a result—those seats are great for track days but not so much for daily driving. The GT2 includes carbon-fiber trim, Nappa leather inserts, Mulan leather bolsters, a jet black painted seatback, two-way lumbar support and bolster adjustment, and heating and ventilation.

Competition Sport - For the serious, track-focused driver only, these have aggressive bolsters, full Nappa leather seating surfaces and carbon-fiber trim on the headrest. They have heating and ventilation, and a new Kevlar-vest-inspired durable performance textile, as well.

[70 copo]

Lee,

Got your order in yet?

[Lee Stewart]

2020 Chevrolet Corvette C8 Design Analysis: "I’m Sorry, but I’m Disappointed"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-sports/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-design-analysis-im-sorry-but-im-disappointed/ar-AAExnYh?ocid=spartandhp#image=3

[Lee Stewart]

Lee,

Got your order in yet?

Absolutely! One for me and one for my son Alex. Gonna have a blast! :burnout:

[Lee Stewart]

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2020 Chevy Corvette Convertible pre-production

Yes, the standard C8 comes with a removable roof, but the convertible is different. It has a roof that folds away, no fuss no muss, whereas you’ll have to manually remove the Stingray’s top then occupy some of the car’s precious cargo area to store it. At this point, Chevrolet offers no details on the convertible, and a freeze-frame of the video includes text saying it’s a preproduction model that could differ from the droptop ‘Vette you’ll eventually see at dealerships. Its arrival is another mystery, though if we look at previous Corvette reveals, the convertible could be just a few months away from its own grand unveiling.

[markjohnson]

I wasn’t sure about it at first look because it was not immediately recognizable as a Corvette with the radical changes but then again ‘62-‘63 was a radical change, ‘67-‘68 was radical along with the ‘82-‘84. It’s GM’s flagship and it’s supposed to lead, not follow. I love the bird’s eye view of it but I’m really diggin’ how the upper intake plenum looks like a spine! Final thoughts are: this is the one Zora always wanted.

[HawkX66]

Inside ball from GM is that the C8 forms a permanent shift from the Corvette being an American sports car to a global sports car with global appeal.
I could have done without hearing that, but I'm not surprised of that angle from Govt Motors.

[70 copo]

The camaro styling in the mow hawk look to the roof and other Camaro like styling traits like the wide rear end look and the shape of the tail lights are a plus.

[ssl78]

I really like the new Vette sure reminds me of a Mccleran which I also like.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/N0Q6FCv0/chevrolet-corvette-stingray-90.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Mr70]

You're right Phil..

[Billohio]

I like it except looks like they didnt know where to put all the buttons along the console. That's terrible

[427TJ]

Will sell like hotcakes at 60k,even with only two pedals. Hope they offer the LT2 in a Camaro before they axe it.

They'll be wrapped around poles in no time! LOL! (I like it too, especially at a price within reach. Plus dealer markup...)

[markinnaples]

I really like it, and really want to see it in person. I also love the current C7 style, and think that looks great also. The part I want to really see more of in person is the interior. HOPEFULLY GM realized that a world class performer needs a world class interior in design and QUALITY instead of the terrible quality interiors they've given us in the past.

[Charley Lillard]

They spoke about the interiors being all leather and suede with wider stitching etc. I know there are Vette guys swearing they will never buy a mid engine Vette but it looks to me like a all around better car. I think they will sell like crazy.

[Lynn]

Yes, it is a bit busy. Yes, there are a few too many angular lines. But overall, Chevy did what they almost always do: they got the proportions correct. Overall, it is stunning. And seriously, the BASE model scoots 0-60 in UNDER 3 seconds? Rare air there.

I read the story "I am a little disappointed" in the link provided by Lee.
I thought the commentary was way overly harsh. He complained about the SHORT nose. I think it is perfect, especially with a mid engine lay out. One of the issues with many Corvettes over the years is the LONG nose, and not knowing when you are going to hit something.
Guy just whined about way too much.
Virtually all the car makers have added way more angular lines, ridges and bumps lately. It is the trend, and whether you like it or not, this styling fits right into 2020. Personally, I would have liked a little smoother. But that sure isn't enough to dissuade me from purchasing one.

Someone said it reminds them of a McLaren. I agree. There are only so many general shapes you can come up with on a mid engine car, and this GENERAL shape is the grand slam.

At least 58% of the folks that took the poll at the end of the article agree with me. Way more than that, if you also count the nuetral votes. Only 16% agreed with the author. I am guessing the responders represent a good cross section of prospective buyers. It is a winner.

Here are the poll results as of 3:30 pm central time today, July 19, 2019:

Were you disappointed by the design of the C8 Corvette?

16% Yes, very disappointed
21% Maybe a little disappointed
58% No, not disappointed at all
5% No opinion / Other

Based on 624 responses.

[SeattleCarGuy]

I haven't owned a Corvette since my C5 Z-06 which I used almost exclusively as a track car. It was a great car and very durable for 14,000 miles of abuse at redline.

I didn't think I would ever want a new car again, but my 10 year old really wants me to get one of these and he might be onto something!

[70 copo]

Molded Fiberglass in Ashtabula, Ohio did the carbon Fiber floors for the car.

The development cost on this car has got to be atrocious. So I am left wondering if they can sell this car starting under 60, how much cheaper could/should the other product lines be?

For comparison the camaro line up should be way cheaper across the board right?7

How much of the value equation here is built around making the car so cheap it is a guaranteed success?

[Charley Lillard]

My guess is a fully optioned one will be over 100K.

[Lee Stewart]

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the strip of buttons is for the HVAC controls

[Lee Stewart]

My guess is a fully optioned one will be over 100K.

About $105,000. Standard model should be $59,995.

[Lynn]

Hard to believe this car will be $15k CHEAPER than a 2014 Z/28 was when new.

You can bet, after the first year or two, there will be further upgrades, with prices going up accordingly.

They may actually lose a little bit on the first year sales. Lexus did that when they sold the first wave of LS400 cars. It was genius marketing; selling them below their own cost for a couple years, then hiking the prices. Remember the marketing hype in years 3 & 4? They showed how a used LS400 was still worth almost 90% (sometimes more) of its original sales price. The much higher priced cars in years 3 and 4 meant people were willing to pay much more for a two year old Lexus, pushing the "resale" value through the roof. It was all fiction, of course. Still, a genius marketing move.

[Lee Stewart]

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[Burd]

That is sweet.

[69LM1]

I like it. Different for sure, but in a good way. Glad I sold my 15' Z06 when I did, I bet the current models value will tank.

Anyone have the backstory on why no stick?

Rich

[Mr70]

I was told current/future demographics is why no M/T cars.
They show buyers not purchasing them,for lack of knowing how to operate properly,or maintain.

[Lee Stewart]

The C8's DCT can be shifted manually, but shifts are done wholly by wire. By removing the mechanical connection, the center tunnel can be completely enclosed to increase structural strength.

[markjohnson]

I was told current/future demographics is why no M/T cars.
They show buyers not purchasing them,for lack of knowing how to operate properly,or maintain.

I know folks that buy new Vettes every few years and as much as they want the manuals, they opt for the automatics because they are easier to sell when the time comes.

[BCreekDave]

Really wonder why they haven't created a "clutch by wire" yet, just for the few who really want a manual trans experience. Have a servo-hydraulic throwout bearing and a servo shifter with mechanical detents for shift feel. This could even have an override for full auto mode where you don't even have to push the clutch if you don't want to.

[Pusher_Man]

I’m 15 mins away from the plant and remember when the C7s first come out. I was told most were sticks from guys working the line. If there was a stick option then I’d be very tempted to buy a C8. With no option, then I’ll most likely admire from a distance. Nothing beats being able to row the gears yourself and red line and downright abuse something like I did my stick ZL1. Sticks are getting to be a harder and harder sell with being “slower” and a lot of younger people not knowing how to drive one...but boy they don’t know what they’re missing :)

[Lee Stewart]

Move to LA (or any other big traffic congested city) and then tell me how wonderful driving a stick is.

[southernfriedcj]

I'm impressed. That is a lot of car for 60k. About the price of a loaded 1/2 ton pickup truck.

That being said, I don't care for exotics(Lambos, ect) and the new Vette looks like an exotic.

The only thing that looks more ridiculous than on old man in a muscle car(me) is an old man in an exotic.

[southernfriedcj]

...they opt for the automatics because they are easier to sell when the time comes.

That is surprising.

I had a heck of a time finding a Volvo C70 with a manual for my wife back in the day. She didn't want a slush box.

[Stefano]

Can’t wait to get my hands on one and track it.

[1970Bluel78]

No Stick ? Govt Motors what have you done

[70 copo]

IMO History repeats... the last time we watched this play out was in 1984 with the hybrid 4+3 skip shift transmission but this time the matter is reversed with a manual option on the wire built onto the computer controlled automatic.

And just like 1984 the foundation for this silliness is today's emission approvals. In 1984 it was California.

Now it is sales in any country or area that has committed to the Paris accord.

If GM gets beat up enough by customers and the automotive press for not having a manual you can bet they will find a way to offer one later in production. Ford is taking the same gamble with the 2020 Mustang GT 500 going with only the Tremec seven-speed dual-clutch automatic.

But do not worry too much. In 10 years we will be having an entirely different discussion. Instead of "no stick" we will be asking how long will we be able to buy a car with a steering wheel?

[Late BrakeU2]

IMO History repeats... the last time we watched this play out was in 1984 with the hybrid 4+3 skip shift transmission but this time the matter is reversed with a manual option on the wire built onto the computer controlled automatic.

And just like 1984 the foundation for this silliness is today's emission approvals. In 1984 it was California.

Now it is sales in any country or area that has committed to the Paris accord.

If GM gets beat up enough by customers and the automotive press for not having a manual you can bet they will find a way to offer one later in production. Ford is taking the same gamble with the 2020 Mustang GT 500 going with only the Tremec seven-speed dual-clutch automatic.

But do not worry too much. In 10 years we will be having an entirely different discussion. Instead of "no stick" we will be asking how long will we be able to buy a car with a steering wheel?

GM does listen to it's customers,at least for performance cars. When the ZL1LE came out, stick only, now offered with A10. And the 19 Camaro refresh is thankfully going back to 17-18 front end fascia's after wholesale dislike.

[Tenney]

Factory line is manual doesn't work on this platform, doesn't best suit mid-engine layout and is a performance compromise; minimizing capabilities of other components/electronics. Oh, and no one buys them. 8-spd DCT for now. Wouldn't be surprised if there's an electric variant at some point ...?

[firstgenaddict]

I talked with a recently retired Chassis Engineer for a while at the Corvette Nationals asked him about the C8 engines...
Told him I heard one at Nurburg which had the exhaust note of a flat plane engine... SO
I asked specifically about a flat plane crank engine in the C8... he stated he was not in power trains however his understanding was that the optional engine would be of a flat plane crank design! This explains the design of the engine- people thought the additional driven off the cam was more valves...BET it's a balance shaft.

[jer]

That is surprising.

I had a heck of a time finding a Volvo C70 with a manual for my wife back in the day. She didn't want a slush box.

Wives come with manuals??

[Late BrakeU2]

Factory line is manual doesn't work on this platform, doesn't best suit mid-engine layout and is a performance compromise; minimizing capabilities of other components/electronics. Oh, and no one buys them. 8-spd DCT for now. Wouldn't be surprised if there's an electric variant at some point ...?

I agree with Mr T, three pedals are going away. Millenials won't be buying these and don't need hip replacement surgery.

If someone comes across one of those wife manuals on amazon or elsewhere please provide a link!

[Mr70]

...

[Luvchevs]

It reminds me a lot of the mid engine cars I will never be able to buy, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Ford GT, Audi A8, etc.
This car has got me excited!
Can't wait to see it in person!

Dave

[x77-69z28]

Only 2pedals though? That’s disappointing to say the least.
Buddy

[Pusher_Man]

Move to LA (or any other big traffic congested city) and then tell me how wonderful driving a stick is.

Yes, I’m sure you’re right. Thankfully where I live we don’t have a traffic light in our whole county...aka stick heaven!

And yes, a flat pane would be cool.

Seems like Corvette is always many years behind others when it comes to this technology. I’m sure it’s all bc of money and keeping the costs down, but DCT, flat pane, mid engine, electric, turbo, etc. have all been out for years now. Eventually, it all tends to finally trickle down to Vettes.

[Lee Stewart]

GM Explains How It Kept The 2020 Chevy Corvette Under $60,000

One of the greatest mysteries surrounding the 2020 Chevy Corvette is how, exactly, General Motors was able to keep its starting price under $60,000. The current C7 Corvette Stingray, this generation’s entry-level offering with 455 horsepower (339 kilowatts), starts at $55,900. And yet, according to GM, the C8’s starting price could be within a stone’s throw of the C7. Motor Authority, also curious about the mental mathematics needed to justify the low starting price, asked GM how it kept the price so low.

General Motors president Mark Reuss told the publication the automaker would spread out the C8 Corvette’s cost over an expanded future lineup. Just like the C7, the C8 will have a “portfolio” of models. The new 2020 Corvette Stingray is just the beginning. Rumors of a hybrid and plug-in model are already swirling online. And there are rumors GM could expand the Corvette model into a brand with a sedan, SUV, and Corvette-based Cadillac offering. That’d be one way to spread development costs. Reuss also pointed to GM’s new Global B electrical platform as another reason for the price.

Corvette Chief Engineer and Vehicle Line Manager Tadge Juechter attributed the C8’s remarkably low starting price to GM’s economy of scale, which allows the automaker to provide a lot of content in the vehicle without having customers pay for extras. Being part of a larger company has its benefits, according to Juechter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-sports/gm-explains-how-it-kept-the-2020-chevy-corvette-under-dollar60000/ar-AAEKs6l?ocid=spartandhp

[purple panther]

lotta car for the money

[70 copo]

GM Explains How It Kept The 2020 Chevy Corvette Under $60,000

One of the greatest mysteries surrounding the 2020 Chevy Corvette is how, exactly, General Motors was able to keep its starting price under $60,000. The current C7 Corvette Stingray, this generation’s entry-level offering with 455 horsepower (339 kilowatts), starts at $55,900. And yet, according to GM, the C8’s starting price could be within a stone’s throw of the C7. Motor Authority, also curious about the mental mathematics needed to justify the low starting price, asked GM how it kept the price so low.

General Motors president Mark Reuss told the publication the automaker would spread out the C8 Corvette’s cost over an expanded future lineup. Just like the C7, the C8 will have a “portfolio” of models. The new 2020 Corvette Stingray is just the beginning. Rumors of a hybrid and plug-in model are already swirling online. And there are rumors GM could expand the Corvette model into a brand with a sedan, SUV, and Corvette-based Cadillac offering. That’d be one way to spread development costs. Reuss also pointed to GM’s new Global B electrical platform as another reason for the price.

Corvette Chief Engineer and Vehicle Line Manager Tadge Juechter attributed the C8’s remarkably low starting price to GM’s economy of scale, which allows the automaker to provide a lot of content in the vehicle without having customers pay for extras. Being part of a larger company has its benefits, according to Juechter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-sports/gm-explains-how-it-kept-the-2020-chevy-corvette-under-dollar60000/ar-AAEKs6l?ocid=spartandhp

Those are the same reasons for cost containment that GM used to use for the special cars made for promotional purposes nearly 30 years ago.

Jim Perkins gave the same reasons for the wild interior in the 1993 Indy Pace car. The pre-chapter indy pace cars featured huge one time investments in interiors and graphics.

Later new designs that did not make any real sense also used this cost containment idea, with the the Sky and the Solstice the SSR and others coming to mind as prime examples of so called "halo" cars where the real cost was borne by everybody else buying product within the GM Line up.

[70 copo]

Molded Fiberglass in Ashtabula, Ohio did the carbon Fiber floors for the car.

The development cost on this car has got to be atrocious. So I am left wondering if they can sell this car starting under 60, how much cheaper could/should the other product lines be?

For comparison the camaro line up should be way cheaper across the board right?7

How much of the value equation here is built around making the car so cheap it is a guaranteed success?

Thanks Lee, looks like my question is now answered.:flag:

[70 copo]

Pretty good video from EE. Worth the time to watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=E_SH4c-oLUQ

[BCreekDave]

I talked with a recently retired Chassis Engineer for a while at the Corvette Nationals asked him about the C8 engines...
Told him I heard one at Nurburg which had the exhaust note of a flat plane engine... SO
I asked specifically about a flat plane crank engine in the C8... he stated he was not in power trains however his understanding was that the optional engine would be of a flat plane crank design! This explains the design of the engine- people thought the additional driven off the cam was more valves...BET it's a balance shaft.

I recall seeing a tech doc somewhere in the past that said a flat plane crank doesn't work beyond about 5 liters in a V8 engine, that Ford really pushed its limit with the 5.2 Voodoo Coyote. True?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/gkTKvKBV/AAEOevq.jpg (https://postimg.cc/LnjfSjS5)

2020 Chevrolet Corvette Buyers Can Pick Their VIN

Chevrolet's order guide reveals that all Corvette Stingrays purchased via factory order are eligible for VIN customization, reports CarsDirect. Buyers can't (and probably won't want to) select the full number, but they can request the last five digits, perhaps to commemorate a special date. A GM spokesperson confirmed to the publication that this feature is a $5,000 option. "If the customer orders early enough we can hold a desired VIN for them," Kevin Kelly said. Not all VINs are eligible.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/RhfXhJvr/maxresdefault.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Lynn]

I keep hearing that the quoted 0-60 time of less than three seconds applies to the Z51 optioned cars.

I was able to find a list of items included as part of that option, but can't find a price.

[Lee Stewart]

I keep hearing that the quoted 0-60 time of less than three seconds applies to the Z51 optioned cars.

I was able to find a list of items included as part of that option, but can't find a price.

Chevrolet has not released actual pricing yet for the car or the available options.

[Lee Stewart]

Multiple users on the Corvette Forum are reporting that dealers are telling them that pricing for the 2020 Chevrolet Corvette arrives on August 15, or at least at some point in the middle of that month. For now, the Bowtie only confirms that the 'Vette starts at less than $60,000.

[69LM1]

Multiple users on the Corvette Forum are reporting that dealers are telling them that pricing for the 2020 Chevrolet Corvette arrives on August 15, or at least at some point in the middle of that month. For now, the Bowtie only confirms that the 'Vette starts at less than $60,000.

But before the "Market Adjustment" pricing I am sure :)

/Rich

[jer]

$5k to juggle some numbers! $1k per number!! I don't know anyone that wouldn't take some fun shots at the guy who checked that option.....insane.

[TMagda]

I like it but it is now a full blown "sports" car. The Corvette always seemed to be a muscle sports car if that makes any sense. I bet there will be some sweet deals on C7's in the next year. Low mile Corvettes were very affordable this year and I think they will be even more so. Make mine a C7, Z06, manual, convertible!

[Burd]

I like the car, the last design was a nice change, the ones before that was like a door stop. No design, just a wedge. Too bad there no Detroit Autoshow this year, they changed the show till fall here, about time, but no press here this year:frown:

[442w30]

Saw the car in the flesh last night. Looks better in person, for those who may be afraid. The rear doesn't look as bad as I had feared. Looks like a Corvette with a reconfigured structure, which isn't a big deal......I for one am happy that the C3 influence is starting to disappear.

[69LM1]

Good vid of the new front end lift feature for curbs and some good shots of the rear when it goes into the tent.

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/Rich

[Lee Stewart]

PLYMOUTH, Mich. — The 2020 Chevy Corvette is just about booked up for the first year’s production run. Michael Simcoe, GM design chief, said as much at the Concours d’Elegance of America, as a gleaming C8 sat on the lawn.

“I think the orders have already hit the first year of production numbers,” Simcoe said when addressing the attentive, large crowd at the golf course. We pulled him aside afterwards, and asked Simcoe to elaborate. Turns out, the C8 is extremely close to being sold out for the 2020 model year, but it hasn’t officially hit the mark yet. “It’s nearly sold out. It’s so close that it’s bound to be sold out soon,” Simcoe told us.

[69LM1]

Wow.... Sold out before pricing even hits the street.

/R

[markinnaples]

Honestly, being sold out doesn't surprise me at all. I would bet that the selling price is close to what it costs to build. I am guessing that they are pricing it starting at ~$60K to get every one sold right away and will recoup more of the development costs with higher priced models as well as future sales. Brilliant move in my opinion.

[67BelAir427]

I relayed this information to a friend and his response was that this was based on a totally refundable $5000. deposit ? Claims it is a clever marketing ploy ?

[Woj]

I saw the car for the first time this weekend in Plymouth, Mi at the Concours of America. I must say I wasn't impressed with the early photos of the car, but in person, it was a different story. The car was a knock-out on first impression. Wish I could have sat in it, but that wasn't an option. Regardless, GM did their homework on this car. I loved it.

Phil Woj

[RALLY]

Chevy engineering does it again. Beautiful design, strong engine, price is right. Great job Chevy.

[JRSully]

Me personally, I'd wait a year or 2 until the bugs are worked out, and there will be bugs...

[70 copo]

Honestly, being sold out doesn't surprise me at all. I would bet that the selling price is close to what it costs to build. I am guessing that they are pricing it starting at ~$60K to get every one sold right away and will recoup more of the development costs with higher priced models as well as future sales. Brilliant move in my opinion.

Reminds me of me placing my order for the 2010 SS camaro during tue initial ordering period. At that time Many cool options were available with no pricing.

Ordered the car with headers, perf exhaust, short throw shifter etc..

GM waited a month any then announced that nearly every option I wanted would be available as an accessory but not from the factory and my car was immediately placed on constraint.

I was told that the RPO content at roll out was a marketing campaign to get as many confirmed orders as possible right away.

[Lee Stewart]

General Motors Design Chief Michael Simcoe sure made some headlines this week following his presentation at the Concours d’Elegance America in Plymouth, MI.

During that presentation, AutoBlog reported that Michael said, “I think the orders have already hit the first year of production numbers” and upon further questioning, Simcoe said “It’s nearly sold out. It’s so close that it’s bound to be sold out soon”.

Those statements from the design chief lit the up the phones of Corvette dealers across the country who took calls from those worried they had already missed out on the opportunity to purchase the car for the 2020 model year.

Although I am sure that Michael is proud of the response the next generation Corvette has received, the car is actually far from being sold out and here is why.

Most dealers have been keeping a list of interested buyers which up until this week was just a list and not actual sold orders. Those customers may have put down a “refundable deposit” for their place in line. Dealers can now enter those orders into the system, but no one is guaranteed a new Corvette just yet.

Dealers are expected to get pricing on August 15th in which they will then go back to the buyers with reservations and present them with the price of the car that was ordered. We know from previous years that a number of those buyers will then elect not to move forward with placing deposits on the car, thereby freeing up that allocation for another buyer.

Other factors will also cause some potential buyers to back out or hold off include not being able to order the exact car they want because of order constraints on selected colors, options and equipment.

Some customers will attempt to “dealer shop”, meaning they may have several initial refundable deposits at different dealerships and will only accept the one that offers them the fastest opportunity to get a car. Many buyers won’t get their cars until at least a year from now and for some of those, their financial circumstances may have changed from when the order was initially placed.

Since Simcoe’s statement, we’ve seen or heard from some of the largest Corvette dealers who are saying they still have plenty of allocations available for the car. We know that the top three Corvette dealers in the USA (Kerbeck, MacMulkin and Criswell) all have plenty of allocations available for the 2020 Corvette and we are sure this extends down the list of dealers as well.

No doubt that Chevrolet has a hit on its hands, which is why they elected to announce the addition of a second shift at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant back in April to handle the additional demand for the car.

Will the C8 Corvette eventually sell out? The old joke about Corvette sales goes something like this: “How many Corvettes do they sell each year? All of them.”

Over the course of the next year, Chevrolet will indeed sell all the 2020 Corvettes. But to say they are sold out now is just not a correct statement to make at this time.

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/07/30/no-the-2020-corvette-is-not-sold-out-and-here-is-why/

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/d0rCBVrB/c8-order-Guide-1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7CPbPDBG)

All RPOs can be found here:

https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2020&regionID=1&divisionID=3&type=0&vehicleID=21905&section=modelhome&page=&butID=1#

[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[markinnaples]

I wonder how that square steering wheel is to actually drive with.

[Lee Stewart]

I wonder how that square steering wheel is to actually drive with.

https://i.postimg.cc/DwZmfykn/TTT.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1964 Chrysler 300K

[Tenney]

Trunk space by Las ...

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/cLVF5m2p/AAEzKP5.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jD46Dzsc)

Somewhat lost among the reams of juicy details—495 horses! Less than 60 grand! No manual?!?!—that gushed out recently about the all-new mid-engine 2020 Chevrolet Corvette was the fact the C8 uses what General Motors has referred to as its Global B electrical architecture.

GM officials on hand during the reveal of the new 'Vette, including the car's chief engineer, Tadge Juechter, pointed to Global B as one of the key elements behind how Chevy was able to deliver what many thought would be a far more expensive car. It's all about economies of scale, and Global B, announced earlier this year, will scale its way into almost every GM vehicle by 2023. Hence the company did not have to spend who knows how much to develop a bespoke system for the C8.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/2020-chevy-corvette-gets-charge-from-electrical-system/ar-AAFxd0b?li=BBnb4R5&ocid=spartandhp

[Steve Shauger]

This car is absolutely stunning, and just what Chevrolet needed. These are going to be difficult to obtain initially, but I'm hoping I can somehow purchase one.


I'm a true enthusiast for 1st and second gen Camaros. The gen 5 &6 Camaro has done nothing esthetically for me, but this corvette I'm all in!!!


As far as being only offered in auto trans, well for me with a sports car of this caliper I'd rather keep both hands on the wheel and paddle my way through the gears. :beers:

[Mr70]

4 of them showed up at our local cruise here last night. Blue,Maroon,Grey & Yellow.
No way I'd sit inside one...no way.

[Steve Shauger]

4 of them showed up at our local cruise here last night. Blue,Maroon,Grey & Yellow.
No way I'd sit inside one...no way.


Are there any new performance/sports cars you would sit in?

[Mr70]

Yes,the 2020 Corvette,if I could fit. :)

[Steve Shauger]

Yes,the 2020 Corvette,if I could fit. :)
I saw a video of a guy 6'5" and 300lbs and he fit just fine. I don't recall you being close to those #'s. :blush:

[GearheadSS]

I can't wait to see the car in person.

Contrary to what the internet says, they are not sold out yet. We're receiving 14 allocations and we have only sold 8 of those so far.

[the427king]

8 at sticker???

[GearheadSS]

8 at sticker???

Yes.

[Lee Stewart]

Finally, official pricing for the 2020 Chevrolet Corvette is out. True to its promise, Chevrolet is making the sports car available for less than $60,000. It will start at exactly $59,995 when it goes on sale early next year.

The base Corvette Stingray is the 1LT, which comes with plenty of standard features, as listed below. The 2LT trim package starts at $67,295, while the 3LT is priced from $71,945.

Prices increase quickly with options. For $1,195, a performance exhaust raises output from 490 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque to 495 hp and 470 lb-ft. Meanwhile, a front suspension lift system can be added to the 2LT and 3LT trims for $1,495. With this system, you can press a button when approaching an obstacle such as a speed bump, and the location is stored in cloud memory. The next time you approach the location, the lift system activates automatically. Up to 1,000 locations can be stored.

The Z51 Performance Package is a $5,000 option, bringing the base model to just below $65,000 when so equipped. It is available on any trim, and Chevy says models with the package can hit 60 mph in under 3 seconds. This package adds a performance exhaust and suspension, electronic limited slip differential, front splitter, rear spoiler, larger disc brakes, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S summer only performance tires, updated axle ratio, enhanced cooling, and front brake cooling inlets.

[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[mockingbird812]

Z51's performance at $65K!!! Wow! European Super and even Hypercars better be wary!! Just wait for Z06 and ZL1 versions!!!! Gonna be interesting. Lotta car (and performance) for the $$$$$!!!

[Lee Stewart]

Dealer Sold Options For The 1LT


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[Lee Stewart]

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In addition to releasing full pricing on the mid-engine C8 Corvette this morning, Chevrolet has announced another nugget of info: A top speed of 194 MPH for the base car. That is fast. Really fast, especially for a car that starts at $59,995.

According to Chevy, this speed can only be achieved with the entry-level 2020 Corvette, not one equipped with the Z51 Performance Pack. That car will have a lower top speed (which Chevy has yet to reveal), as a result of the additional drag generated by its aerodynamic body add-ons.

[Lynn]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-Stingray/173998112052?hash=item2883187d34:g:ym4AAOSwWm5dNyH f

[Lee Stewart]

The C8 Chevrolet Corvette Starts Under $60K…But Only for the First Year

GM shocked the automotive world when it announced that the mid-engine 2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray would start under $60,000. True to its word, Chevy recently released full pricing details on the C8 Corvette, revealing a starting price of $59,995 including destination charge. That makes the mid-engine Corvette a huge bargain, but according to our intel, that brag-worthy base price won't last long.

A well-placed source revealed to MotorTrend that the sub-$60,000 base price would only last for the first model year. For 2021, you can expect to see a price hike. Just how much of a hike? Back in 2013, the 2014 Chevrolet Corvette launched with a starting price of $51,995—a number that was easy to swallow since it represented a jump of only $1,400 from the outgoing C6. But a few months into the C7 Corvette's inaugural year, Chevy raised the base price to $53,993, citing higher-than-expected demand. By the 2015 model year, the C7's starting price had risen to $55,995, a full $4,000 more than its original MSRP. Of course, it would've been hard to find a C7 for sticker price at launch anyway, but that's another story (one you can bet will repeat with the C8).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/buying/the-c8-chevrolet-corvette-starts-under-dollar60k…but-only-for-the-first-year/ar-AAG0UzA?ocid=spartandhp

[Lynn]

Like I said in an earlier post; the design does remind one of a 1995 McLaren F1.

Considering the one pictured below just sold for 19.8 million (granted it is 680 HP) the Corvette is looking really good at this price point.

[Burd]

I heard a new Vette was in the building GM set up at the Dream cruise at the old Woodward intersection, I saw people with GM bags and a nice black tube walking around, they must have given out posters, last year the first camaro was in the same spot. Too much traffic Saturday, I didn’t stop.

[Billohio]

Someone on facebook had a picture of 6 on a car hauler and said headed to the crusher. Not sure if that was true but heres the vin on one. Prototype?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKVJFRJ5/AAGhqGb.jpg (https://postimg.cc/nC98nnsy)

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Here's What the C8 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Could Look Like

[Lee Stewart]

Here’s How 2020 Corvette C8 Shoppers Are Strategizing to Avoid Dealer Markups

Prospective buyers of the new, highly anticipated 2020 Chevy Corvette C8 are worried that dealerships might mark up the price significantly over the manufacturer suggested retail price (MSRP).

Corvette fans on CorvetteForum.com have compiled a list of dealerships that have already committed to sell the new C8 at MSRP without markups.

Started by user tcinla, the list includes 56 high-volume Corvette dealerships across the country that are ranked by the number of C7 Corvettes they have sold to date. Dealerships marked "YES" have promised to sell their allocation of C8 Corvettes at MSRP, while dealerships marked "NO" or "?" have not made this commitment and may be prone to markups. The list also includes a number of lower-volume Corvette dealerships, some of which have committed to selling the C8 at MSRP and some of which have not.

[markinnaples]

This is the one I'd order:
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-C8-4.jpg
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-yellow-interior.jpg

[danachevroletfor1967]

I like that exterior color, different and not common.

[Lee Stewart]

When will my mid-engine Corvette actually arrive?

September 5: Chevy dealers informed of their Corvette allocations.

September 12: “Run, Pass” constraints defined by the factory (what trim levels and equipment are available for ordering). GM begins accepting orders of cars for the first two weeks of production with 2LT or 3LT trim and Arctic White, Black, Torch Red, Shadow Gray, Sebring Orange, or Ceramic Matrix Gray paint.

Week of September 23: Final C7 will be manufactured at Bowling Green, Kentucky, assembly plant.

October: Orders accepted for C8s painted Elkhart Lake Blue and Long Beach Red. Production allocated for weeks 3-5.

November: Orders accepted for Corvettes with 1LT trim for weeks 6-9 of production; Blade Silver, Zeus Bronze, and Accelerate Yellow added to available color palette.

December 2: C8 manufacturing will commence. All 12 exterior colors will be available for ordering. Some LPO (limited production option) equipment will be shipped directly to dealers for installation.

January 6, 2020: Manufacturing resumes following GM’s two-week holiday break.

Mid-January: Early production 2020 Corvettes held in impound for retrofit of updated parts begin leaving Bowling Green, Kentucky, for shipment to dealers.

February-March: 2020 model year price adjustments are likely.

September: End of 2020 model year.

There you have it. By the looks of it, even the earliest orders won’t be delivered until February.

[Lee Stewart]

Leaked mid-engine C8 Corvette specs hint at big performance gains

e’ve seen a few basic specs for the mid-engine Corvette, but we may now have even deeper insight courtesy of a user on CorvetteForum. The recent posting shows a few pictures of an alleged spec booklet for the new sports car; some of the information matches what General Motors has already made public, but there is plenty else to unpack. Assuming this leak is accurate, gear ratios, weights, and more are now out there in the open.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/08/27/leaked-mid-engine-c8-corvette-specs

[the427king]

Does anyone have a pic of a zero option base car?

[1967Z28]

This is the one I'd order:
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-C8-4.jpg
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-yellow-interior.jpg

That's the color scheme that was shown last month at the Monterey Historic Races at Laguna Seca. They also showed a cutaway car.

[69LM1]

This is the one I'd order:
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-C8-4.jpg
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/07/2020-Chevrolet-Corvette-yellow-interior.jpg



That's almost the exact color (2015) Vette my Son has. It presents very well and classy.

I agree, if I bought a 2020, that's a color that would be high on my list.

/R

[1967Z28]

More from Monterey including seat options, wheel options, etc.

[dykstra]

https://www.motor1.com/news/375287/chevy-corvette-c8r-engine-sound/

Sounds killer!

[purple panther]

You talk about a WOW factor. I just wish it had 4-5 speed. I just cant buy an automatic . So ill wait till gm offers one and I think they will along with more serious horsepower. ITS amazing looking

[Tenney]

https://www.motor1.com/news/375287/chevy-corvette-c8r-engine-sound/

Sounds killer!

What flywheel?!

[SBR]

You talk about a WOW factor. I just wish it had 4-5 speed. I just cant buy an automatic . So ill wait till gm offers one and I think they will along with more serious horsepower. ITS amazing looking

I think you will be waiting a while, hope I am wrong though.

[Tenney]

No transmission at all may be next in line ...?

[markinnaples]

I was reading yesterday that Porsche has brought back their manual transmission in the new 911. The first new ones that are out now are paddle-shift automatics but the manuals will be out in a little while.

[Lynn]

Engine sounds like a well tuned Ferrari V12. Obviously a flat plane crank if it is a V8. Smokey Yunick (and a few other since) built some monstrous octopus looking headers that had all the puslsed timed correctly and it sounded similar, but not quite how a flat plane crank V8 sounds.

[fortim]

Engine sounds like a well tuned Ferrari V12. Obviously a flat plane crank if it is a V8. Smokey Yunick (and a few other since) built some monstrous octopus looking headers that had all the puslsed timed correctly and it sounded similar, but not quite how a flat plane crank V8 sounds.

Probably 180 degree headers. We ran them in roundy round NASCAR late model sportsman LT-1's in the early 70's. Wicked sound...

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/180-degree-headers-help-v8s-low-midrange-torque/

[Lynn]

Yep. That's them all right.

A flat plane crank in a V8 doesn't need those headers to get that great sound.

[70 copo]

And R&T picked a.......

Veloster N ???? :eek:



https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/a29640493/2020-performance-car-of-the-year/

[69LM1]

What! Wowza...
R

[69 Post Sedan]

Ugh!!!!

[Zedder]

Went by GM Canada HQ today to see the C8 in person. The building was locked, but I was 6 feet from the bumper. The car is gorgeous in person! Glad I put my deposit down a few months ago...

[TomP]

Kind of hard on the neck Mark!
Look at that reflection, are you wearing shorts? In Ontario in the end of December?

[Zedder]

Hey, it was a balmy 34 F!

[Astock]

I like the new Vette, but there might be good buys coming on low mile, front engine, 7 speed Z07's.

[Lee Stewart]

2020 Chevy Corvette EPA-rated for 15 mpg city, 27 mpg highway

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I like the new Vette, but there might be good buys coming on low mile, front engine, 7 speed Z07's.

Precisely my son Benjamin's plan! He starts college (somewhere??) this Fall, and plans to buy a ZL1 when he graduates - pending his school loan payment allows! :grin:

[NorCam]

Went by GM Canada HQ today to see the C8 in person. The building was locked, but I was 6 feet from the bumper. The car is gorgeous in person! Glad I put my deposit down a few months ago...

What color Mark?

[Zedder]

I’m thinking Torch Red or Elkhart Lake Blue. Final decision after I see them in person ��

[NorCam]

Love the blue myself

[Zedder]

I agree Graeme...that blue looks amazing in the Sun! First batch of Vettes are built, so we should see some in the wild soon!!

[olredalert]

---- Saw a full truck load 3 days ago in Detroit on 696! They were all shrink wrapped but unmistakable……Bill S

[markinnaples]

My step son saw a blue one in the flesh cruising around last week my area (SWFL), but we get a lot of prototypes and intro models driving around here with their camo covers on. I remember a few years before the retro Mustang came out (prob was 2003) there was one driving all around our area (I must have seen it 3-4 times) that was spray bombed with black circles and wavy lines all over it, not to mention all of the Mazda and other maker cars with the leather-like covers all over them.