Can someone tell me about this four speed that was taken out of a Yenko 40 yrs ago?

[69z2x4]

P9H09B 19839361 See picture..

[firstgenaddict]

I think you mean 19B39361X


You are missing a number and the 8 is not the one missing...
the 8 represents a B or is a B for Baltimore.
1 represents Chevrolet Motor division
9 Represents the YEAR
the next digit is an ALPHA character for the assembly plant
then the serial number is the remaining 6...

Check the VIN and report back.

[69z2x4]

That is all there is on the pad. Upside down from each other. I have a picture on my phone of it if I can text it to someone that can post here from there phone..Tks

[69z2x4]

How about
P 4-sp Muncie
9- 1969
H-June
09- Ninth Day
B- M-21
19839361- Service replacement ???????

[69z2x4]

I was hoping the vin was on the pad to see if this car was known. It was a DY car.

[bbbentley]

Yenko what?

[SS427]

Would likely be a Chevelle since it is stamped with a Baltimore B code.

[69z2x4]

It came out of a 69 DY Yenko Camaro around 1985.

[69z2x4]

From the CRG site
P is for 4-sp Muncie
9- is for 1969
H- is for month of June
09-is for the Ninth Day
B- is for M-21
I don't know what the numbers stand for...19839361- Service replacement ???????

[69z2x4]

I think you mean 19B39361X


You are missing a number and the 8 is not the one missing...
the 8 represents a B or is a B for Baltimore.
1 represents Chevrolet Motor division
9 Represents the YEAR
the next digit is an ALPHA character for the assembly plant
then the serial number is the remaining 6...

Check the VIN and report back.

I do not believe it is a vin number

[Billohio]

VIN was stamped near the date and would start with 19N or 19L for a camaro depending on the plant

[Jonesy]

Actually a photo of al the stampings would help clear this up.

If that is a partial VIN with 19B39361 stamped on there it isnt from a Camaro.
So it would be nice to see the stampings to confirm.

[Hawkeye]

Sorry for the delay.

[SS427]

Hmmmm. Interesting....

[John Brown]

Didn't stamped Corvette vin numbers leave out the plant code on things like transmissions?

[nova67]

Corvette has the S in the stamping for St Louis assembly plant

[cudino]

It came out of a 69 DY Yenko Camaro around 1985.

As the owner of a 69 DY Yenko Camaro 4spd that’s missing its original transmission I’m very interested in this thread, but I’m not sure what to make of the stampings shown in the picture. Any expertise anyone can add to help identify the VIN# of this transmission?

- Wade

[69z2x4]

Wade; I could not wait to get the car home to see the vin number on the trans as I knew it was out of a Yenko. I thought it was going to be easy, but I guess not! Someone knows what it is, we just need for that person to see it here..

[69z2x4]

Does anyone have a picture of where the stamp would be on top of the trans case, if in fact they stamped one there?

[SS69chevelle]

the Vin IS Chevelle from Baltimore, the 8 was used many times as a B. the assembly date is early June 1969 and the vin fits perfectly at 06C. I do have one vin that matches other than the last number, i'll send a message to the person I have listed as the owner and see if their chevelle was a four speed and if they have the original one. thanks for posting the pic. Andy

looked up the chevelle i mentioned it is an auto trans, after blowing up the image it looks like there is a faint 6 at the end of the vin. I added it in case that is the vin and any info comes up in the future. take care

[Jonesy]

Yep, I would agree thats a Baltimore Chevelle stamping and definately not a Camaro VIN. Maybe the trans was replaced at one time with this one.

[ssl78]

Maybe its a yenko or copo Chevelle vin

[Jonesy]

Maybe its a yenko or copo Chevelle vin

He says above it was out of a DY Yenko Camaro

It came out of a 69 DY Yenko Camaro around 1985.

[Hawkeye]

If it is a Chevelle vin, is it missing a digit? Or am I missing something?

Thanks,
Marty

[69z2x4]

Maybe it is a Chevelle vin..

[Hawkeye]

Here is a photo of the Yenko Camaro original poster states transmission came out of.
Thanks,
Marty

[Stefano]

Yenko's and COPO's went through Muncie transmissions on a regular basis, especially when raced. Pic looks like X66 trim.

[big gear head]

Wouldn't that be X44 trim?

[Stefano]

If those are original 1/4 panel gills/spears then not X44.

[big gear head]

So it wouldn't be X66 either? Probably X11? If I understand it right, X66 is SS 396 without chrome trim, and this would have been a COPO car, which would have been X11 or X44, but in this case probably X11?

[RobR]

I thought X-66 cars had the chrome 1/4 panel gills/spears?

[jdv69z]

Correct, all SS Camaros received the quarter panel gills. Unless I am mistaken, X66 did not receive chrome around wheel wells, bright drip rails, etc. The quarter panel gills are the reason X55 was used for small block SS Camaros, I believe. Otherwise, they could have been built as X44's.

[big gear head]

OK, thanks. I wasn't aware that the SS got the gills no matter what. But this car would have been a COPO wouldn't it? Not a SS? Or is someone saying that this car may not actually be a COPO, but a SS with Yenko stripes added?

[69z2x4]

This car was a Yenko, the picture was taken in 1978 and he had had it for a while trying to decide what to do with it. It was in ruff condition and he wanted a show car. When he saw my Camaro at a car show he made a deal and bought it and took the M/T and all the emblems from the Yenko and put on the 69 that I had.

[Stefano]

X66 trim has the 1/4 panel spears.

"As can be seen from the table above, the X11 code always includes the first four features: the use of black body sill paint and the use of the trim moldings (rear quarter louver, driprail, and wheel opening). The difference between X11 and X55 is that X55 does not apply the driprail and wheel opening moldings.

From this table, we can deduce that the wheel opening stripes, headlamp bezels, and taillamp lenses were not a factor in the X-codes. The table also show that the addition of Z22 (which eliminates the bright taillamp and headlamp trim, since the Rally Sport lamps are different) has the same effect on the X-codes as Z21.

Going back to the X22, X33, X66, and X77 codes, their meanings are now clear. X22 and X33 codes have the same meaning as the related X11 code, but with an added blacked-out tailpan for X22, and with an added Z28 stripe for X33. The X66 code has the same meaning as X55, but with a blacked-out tailpan. The X77 code has the same meaning as X44, but with a Z28 stripe. Including these meanings in a table covering most of the major trim features for all of the X-codes, and adding in the related Z10 & Z11 codes, we get the following result:" copied from CRG site.

[big gear head]

I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding why this car would be a X66. If it's a '69 Yenko then wouldn't it be a COPO? And if it's a COPO, then wouldn't it be a X44 or X11? What am I missing that would make this car a X66? Most of the people on this sight know more about these cars than I do, so I'm trying to learn from you.

[Stefano]

Some of the early Yenko’s were X66 Camaros.

[big gear head]

OK, so converted cars, not COPO.

[Stefano]

X codes are 1969 Model year.

[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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The first 50 Yenko COPO's were X66 cars.

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes

Looking at the car above it should have the black body sill - the area below the rocker molding. Only the X66 COPOs had the black-out tailpan (like the 396 SS) which this one has.

[big gear head]

Thanks Lee. I didn't know that there were any COPOs that were anything other than X11 and X44. You guys amaze me at how much you know about these things. Were there any others besides the X66?

[Lee Stewart]

Using Chevrolet’s COPO, in October 1968, Yenko ordered 50 1969 Camaros with the RPO L72 engine under COPO 9561AA (M21 four speeds) and COPO 9561BA (M40 Hydra Matics).

In mid January 1969, Yenko received his first order of L72 COPOs, with Fisher Body trim code X-66. The X-66 trim consisted of a black painted rear panel and rear quarter louvers. A second group of 100 were ordered in November 1968 and began arriving in February 1969. These cars did not have the blacked out panels and louvers and were coded X-11 (bright moldings and trim) or X-44 (no chrome accents). A few more orders were placed before the end of the model year. Most COPO Camaro historians agree that Yenko ordered a total of 201 1969 Camaros for SYC conversion.

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https://heacockclassic.com/articles/1969-yenko-camaro-syc-427/

[69z2x4]

Wade, do you know where your Camaro was sold new?

[JoeC]

quote from article ..
"Most COPO Camaro historians agree that Yenko ordered a total of 201 1969 Camaros for SYC conversion."

Amazing that people still use the 201 number when the guy who said 201 changed it to 198 over 30 years ago

[cudino]

Wade, do you know where your Camaro was sold new?
Mine was sold through Colonial Chevrolet in Norfolk VA, and has X44 trim code. Would be neat if that was a picture of it, but I'm not sure it's the same car.

- Wade

[nugeusa1]

looking at the hugger orange Yenko in the above pics I think I see vertical trim on the tail lights but no trim on the headlight bezels. if its an X66 I don't think it should have the trim on the tail lights if its actually there .

[Stefano]

Mine was sold through Colonial Chevrolet in Norfolk VA, and has X44 trim code. Would be neat if that was a picture of it, but I'm not sure it's the same car.

- Wade

Chances are one in 29 ; )

[69z2x4]

How in the world did the guys on the line keep all that straight with cars moving about one a minute..

[bbbentley]

looking at the hugger orange Yenko in the above pics I think I see vertical trim on the tail lights but no trim on the headlight bezels. if its an X66 I don't think it should have the trim on the tail lights if its actually there .

What it should have and what it got may be two different things? And then the restorer of that car may have got it wrong? My buddy’s silver/blue copo, @ this year’s sYc SCR, has vertical tail light trim and is a X44. Doubtful it was changed after leaving Norwood. It is a time capsule of sorts.
And then, I don’t think it is folk lore as I have talked to too many former Norwood employees, employee car’s sometimes received “ embellishments” not on the RPO order.

[69z2x4]

Mine was sold through Colonial Chevrolet in Norfolk VA, and has X44 trim code. Would be neat if that was a picture of it, but I'm not sure it's the same car.

- Wade

This car was sold in Ohio..Sorry

[69z2x4]

Where is 427King. I wonder if he has seen a trans stamp like this?

[the427king]

I just sent you a pm

[69z2x4]

Thanks King. In trying to find out what the vin was to the Yenko it came out of. It is a known car.