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markinnaples
09-03-2019, 06:21 PM
On one of the Chevelle pages I frequent on FB last night, the guy said he just bought a gallon of black cherry paint for his car and the price was $1,129 for it. Holy mackerel, that's bunch of money.
If he's talking base and clear, that's in the ballpark.
X66 714
09-03-2019, 08:25 PM
Single stage Daytona yellow was 1,100 per gallon...Joe
m22mike
09-03-2019, 09:22 PM
Yep, no it's not lacquer, buy stock in PPG and 3m :bs:
x33rs
09-03-2019, 10:29 PM
That's about right. Be glad it's not a red. Some of the reds I do are well over $1500 a gallon.
I'm doing a blue now that was over $800 a gallon, and it's just a basic metallic blue he picked from a new car lot.
ruralrte66
09-03-2019, 10:49 PM
WOW! Last car I had painted, 65 Elcamino (Maderia Maroon) was 400.00 a gallon BC/CC
That was paint only, I thought that was a lot. I guess its a good thing I like original paint
cars. This was 8 years ago.
Gregg
seventieshow
09-03-2019, 11:38 PM
First gallon of paint I purchased was a gallon of "Corvette Blue" (Bridgehampton Blue most likely). Enamel. $18 a gallon+tax. 1979.
This is one of the reasons project cars aren't selling, although some sellers haven't got the message. Materials and labor have gotten very high. But I'm sure most here know that.
dustinm
09-03-2019, 11:39 PM
Matador red single stage Chromapremier in 2015 cost me $1800 for a gallon and a quart. I did also get matching sealer and reducer thrown in.
dustinm
09-03-2019, 11:45 PM
The next time I will use Nason with a high-end clear.
JRSully
09-04-2019, 12:43 AM
When I had my Porsche painted (Bahia Red) my buddy told me to get ready, as red's were some of the most expensive because of the pigment cost.? who knows for sure, but it was crazy $$
tunes
09-04-2019, 12:54 AM
The high cost is why I decided not to repaint my Chevelle even though the lacquer paint is cracked all over the hood and roof. Being retired, I can't justify spending that kind of money. It's just crazy how the cost has gone up.
R68GTO
09-04-2019, 01:08 AM
When I had my Porsche painted (Bahia Red) my buddy told me to get ready, as red's were some of the most expensive because of the pigment cost.? who knows for sure, but it was crazy $$
Back in 2010 when the tsunami hit the east coast of Japan it wiped out one of the few factories in the world that makes red pigment for automotive paint. Most US car manufacturers could not produce cars painted red for a period of time after that natural disaster. My guess is with very few suppliers of red pigment, the price for red paint is adjusted accordingly.
That's true,but that was 10 years ago & you would think that factory would've recovered by now. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-pigment/automakers-face-paint-shortage-after-japan-quake-idUSTRE72P04B20110326
markinnaples
09-04-2019, 01:04 PM
Thanks for that information everyone. I was looking at buying a '70 GTO in the 90's outside of Pittsburgh and before I did I talked with my buddy who painted cars and he told me that if I got it that I should expect to pay a lot more because it was red (Cardinal red?) and I always wondered why red was more expensive. Honestly, you would think that some paint manufacturers would have came up with something that is good quality for less money nowadays.
x33rs
09-04-2019, 02:47 PM
It's the pigments they use in the reds Mark. I know, doesn't sound like a good excuse but that's what they tell me.
Very seldom do I paint a red car these days just because of that reason. Once the owner finds out the cost of the color they quickly change their minds.
Most of the time I use BASF product, and their best quality is Diamont, which is an excellent paint. Compared to PPG and their top quality brand, the Diamont usually averages $200-$300 a gallon cheaper depending on the color. So customers generally go for the BASF more than the PPG.
So you can joggle things around and save a few bucks here and there, but the bottom line is that the solvent paints that we still use here, are just really expensive now. I can easily spend well over $3,000 on materials alone for a car these days, and that's not the super high end material either. Price some Sikkens if you want a real shocker.
HawkX66
09-04-2019, 05:44 PM
And people ask why I love to cruise my primer gray 69 and haven't painted it lol In all seriousness I love the looks, but she'll get painted when I'm done building my new garage.
https://live.staticflickr.com/965/41398611284_6fdc6ab790_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/265fGQ5)20180514_223233 (https://flic.kr/p/265fGQ5) by Dave H (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146684464@N06/), on Flickr
A12pilot
09-04-2019, 05:54 PM
It’s just crazy. Always find it amusing when a “friend” says, “You want how much to paint my car? And that’s on top of the restoration cost?”:shocked:
Yes...I do....but please, I beg of you, humor me and go to the local paint shop and YOU price this here materials list out without getting a shop discount and let me know how that works out for ya!:smirk:
Good times!:biggthumpup:
Cheers:beers:
Dave
I've seen more & more rattle can paint jobs lately,and this could be why.
You'd never know it,as many of them are simply beautiful.
x33rs
09-06-2019, 05:51 PM
This may sound funny coming from a painter but I actually enjoy the cars we have that aren't painted the most.
That's specifically why I left the Z in primer, so my wife could drive it without worry, and likely why I'll never restore the nomad. I enjoyed daily driving that car 30 years ago and I want to get back to doing that, so highly likely I won't be painting that one either.
It's not the cost of the materials, it's just the fact that I don't want to have to worry about it, and just drive them and have fun.
Xplantdad
09-06-2019, 08:24 PM
Amen, Larry!
tjs44
09-06-2019, 08:51 PM
Sometimes you get lucky,when I bought my 63 Tempest convert a few years ago I got quotes about 10K to do the body work and paint.Original blk car.The drivers 1/4 had been repaired but really bad job.After month of crying about not being able to finish the car a friend who owns 3 body shops that just does insurance work feels sorry and he has a couple of his guys do the body work and get it paint ready but would not paint it.It got done and was killer good job.Cost me just under 2K for materials and labor.From a recommend from a friend took the car to a local shop that did it in single stage blk.The car came out WAY better than expected and cost me $1500 out the door and was mirror smooth.Made it easy to roll the car but think when done I still lost 4K on the car.FWIW,Tom
tjs44
09-06-2019, 08:54 PM
WOW,went back and read the forsale thread!I lost 6K on the deal.Should have let sleeping dogs lay.Tom
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