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Bill Rose
11-30-2019, 12:29 AM
This is my winter project. I decided to build a new ZL-1 for my Nova. It will look somewhat like an original ZL-1 with a new block and heads. It will be a Scat forged rotating assembly with a roller cam/lifters, and custom built/modified Brodix heads.Thats where the power will be made. I'm also having the Brodix logo milled off the front of the heads, then media blasted so they look more like the rough cast 074 heads that were originally on the ZL-1's... It will have hollowed out manifolds/smog tubes with a free wheeling smog pump, and dual snorkel air cleaner atop a 4346 dual feed Holley. Just some fun for when the snow starts flying around here,
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/IMG_0498.JPG
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/78143773_2471778099733704_3744603795779223552_o.jp eg
Crush
11-30-2019, 12:39 AM
Nice couch !!
Motor is cool too!!:eek2:
Postsedan
11-30-2019, 01:00 AM
Very Nice Bill.....your in town neighbor Albert has much experience with these all aluminum Bowtie’s.
Did this engine come from
Albert’s stable?
Dan
Bill Rose
11-30-2019, 01:09 AM
Yes Dan...Albert bought it a few yrs ago and decided to let it go. He also gave me the oil pan which needed a lot of work, but it came out nice.
Postsedan
11-30-2019, 01:58 AM
Perfect Bill :)
Glad she found a great new home.
Dan
Mr. Chevy
11-30-2019, 02:32 AM
Very nice Bill. That Nova will haul some tail when that motor is in there!!
Rich
Bill Rose
11-30-2019, 03:21 AM
That's my plan Rich, so I hope you're right...
WILMASBOYL78
11-30-2019, 02:13 PM
This Nova sure has come along way since the original 6 cylinder and Powerglide...looks great.
:biggthumpup:
mockingbird812
11-30-2019, 03:42 PM
Sweet project Bill. You’re gonna have a neat winter. KEEP US POSTED (each and every step)!!!!:laugh::cool2::laugh::cool2::laugh:
Salvatore
11-30-2019, 06:50 PM
How come no headers with a motor like that? I bet it would breath alot better with a good set of tubes.
Bill Rose
12-01-2019, 02:19 AM
I'm not a big fan of headers. Hollowed out manifolds will breath too. This whole theme of this car was somewhat based on looking factory correct. Right down to the smog system. Here's a shot what I'm talking about.
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/100_4411.jpg
Salvatore
12-01-2019, 02:45 AM
Looks good Bill. Did you ever run it with the power plant you have in it now?
Bill Rose
12-01-2019, 03:27 AM
I never ran it down a track, but I've done my share of hot rodding with it. This new motor is being designed by a couple guys I know who know how to make power, especially with the cam and heads. So I'm thinking this ZL-1 motor will make quite a bit more power than the existing motor.
napa68
12-02-2019, 06:04 PM
Love it!
Spooky
12-02-2019, 09:33 PM
Bill, This project sounds awesome. I will be following the details of your build as I am going to do a similar ZL1 build. The more details the better! What cubic inch size are you going to do? I only know of a few builds like this but there is no data to go off of. I would love to pick your brain when you are done to gain some insight if you will let me....please, please, pretty please....
Scott
Damien
12-03-2019, 12:34 AM
This is one very cool Nova.
Look forward to following along on the next installment.
Bill Rose
12-03-2019, 01:26 AM
Thanks for all the feedback. Scott, what block are you using. Is it a new GM block? I doing a standard bore (4.250) and I'm not stroking it. I'm not going crazy with this, just want a light 450ish hp motor when it's done. Any advise I may be able to give you let me know. I think the most important thing is the heads. I'm having them custom built from new Brodix cores by a shop in Mississippi. They are the best I've been able to find, and I did a lot of research.
I'm a bit hard to deal with because I want this to look stock, so the machine shops have to work around my plan.
Spooky
12-03-2019, 01:11 PM
Bill, Thanks!, I am using the 12370850 new GM Block (from 2007 I think) Your plan looks awesome, but I don't think I need to go as "Far" as you due to budget constraints. I was thinking the 4.25 bore and either the GM 3.76 for 427 or a 4.25 stroke for a 481. either ones with a 163 intake and Holley/ headers. Heads are the biggie info wise and also piston selection. I may just copy your build specs for a 450/500hp street engine. That's all I need. Thanks for keeping me in mind. That is one gorgeous NOVA!
Scott
Bill Rose
12-03-2019, 10:04 PM
OK Scott, so it's the same block I have. I chose Icon pistons, one of the few companies that still make standard bore pistons. The 1st thing to do is put plugs in the oil passage bores in the lifter valley or you won't have any oil press when you fire it up.
NorCam
12-03-2019, 10:49 PM
I'm with Sam on the exhaust. Love the idea on the build and the Brodix heads made to look stock. It's gonna make some good power for sure. What camshaft and what intake are you planning on?
wheelhop
12-04-2019, 12:38 AM
Very exciting project Bill, can't wait to see it in person some day!
Bill Rose
12-04-2019, 04:25 AM
I'm with Sam on the exhaust. Love the idea on the build and the Brodix heads made to look stock. It's gonna make some good power for sure. What camshaft and what intake are you planning on?
It will have Hyd roller 595 int & 570 Ex, duration at .050 225 int & 238 Ex
It will have a 163 L-78 intake....same cam and intake thats in the car now. It's a great combination for a street car.
Bill Rose
12-16-2019, 04:49 AM
Made a bit of progress on the ZL-1 build. Got the motor out of the Nova. Broke it all down and getting everything cleaned up to install in the new Zl-1 block. I'm waiting for the pistons to be delivered and the heads to be finished up by the machine shop, they I will assemble it all. Here'a a few pics of the progress.
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/IMG_26061.JPG
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/IMG_2608.JPG
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/IMG_2612.JPG
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/IMG_2613.JPG
https://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/IMG_26141.JPG
Postsedan
12-16-2019, 12:24 PM
Looking good Bill :)
Dan
SuperNovaSS
12-17-2019, 04:57 AM
Looking good. Maybe I missed it earlier, why did you tear the other engine apart?
Jason
Bill Rose
12-17-2019, 05:20 AM
Looking good. Maybe I missed it earlier, why did you tear the other engine apart?
Jason
When I built the Nova iron block motor a few yrs ago, I used top quality parts, like a Scat rotating assembly, roller cam and Murel roller lifters, etc... So when I decided to build the Zl-1 I had to decide if it would be better try and sell the motor and build the ZL-1 from scratch, or take the parts out of the iron block motor and put the parts in the new motor. So I decided it would be difficult to try and sell the motor for what it was really worth. So I took it all apart and I will be putting those parts in the new block. I still have the block and heads that were all done right with all new parts and top notch valve job. I will sell those parts.
SuperNovaSS
12-17-2019, 08:49 PM
That makes complete sense. It is hard to get someone to pay a decent amount for used aftermarket performance parts, even if they are perfect.
Jason
Salvatore
12-17-2019, 09:02 PM
Who does your machine work and heads up your way Bill? Got a good machine shop around you? I guess you and Albert use the same Machine Shop?
Bill Rose
12-18-2019, 01:04 AM
Locally, Albert and I use Nicks Machine in South River, NJ
Salvatore
12-18-2019, 02:28 AM
OK Bill. Good to know. Looks like he does real good work. Thanks!
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