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SuperNovaSS
01-08-2020, 02:47 AM
Ooops, I blew it on the VIN in the title. It should be 124379N680258. I have a 69 427 engine that I was planning to post for sale here. While I was taking pictures, I noticed it had a Camaro VIN by the oil filter. The partial VIN is 9N680258. Does anyone know if this car still exists. I would like to try to reunite the engine with the car before posting it up for sale. The engine came from Ohio so the car may be in that area if it still exists, who knows.


Thanks,

Jason

PeteLeathersac
01-08-2020, 03:16 AM
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Cool find Jason, MO or MN suffix?
Obviously you'll try for an NCRS report next, best of luck backtracking the car!
:beers:
~ Pete

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Kurt S
01-08-2020, 04:44 AM
Nothing on that one....

SuperNovaSS
01-08-2020, 05:19 AM
Thanks guys.

Pete,

I don't plan to try to find the car. If I was going to do that, I would not have posted the VIN. I just thought I would check before marketing the block. As far as the suffix code goes, someone mangled it long ago for unknown reasons. That is why I never thought to look for a VIN by the oil filter. The chances of it being a COPO block is slim compared to other applications. When I was taking pictures, I realized it was not a CE block since there was no assembly date on the starter mounting pad. Then I thought it was strange there was no VIN on the pad and looked at the alternate oil filter location. Here is the pad:


Thanks again,

Jason

markjohnson
01-08-2020, 06:40 AM
It’s pretty obvious & highly likely that block was removed from a stolen car long ago and that stamping was obliterated to sever all ties to the car from whence it came. Thankfully, the culprits just didn’t know about the more important oil filter stamping! After the engine was “harvested” the body could’ve been pushed into a river where it’s gone forever or possibly rolled into an alley where it was recovered and possibly alive today NOM hopefully!

ZLP955
01-08-2020, 10:12 AM
It’s pretty obvious & highly likely that block was removed from a stolen car long ago and that stamping was obliterated to sever all ties to the car from whence it came
124379N680258 appears to have a clean record according to https://www.nicb.org/vincheck
However there may be a time limit on how far back records go?

markinnaples
01-08-2020, 12:18 PM
Wow, the scratching of those block numbers is crazy. What other purpose could they have other than something nefarious? Hope it's reunited with the original car, that would be fantastic.

302moz
01-08-2020, 12:26 PM
Wow that vin is close to my copo vin 684911. The assembly date was probably 0822 on your block ? What’s the casting date ? Thanks

Keith Seymore
01-08-2020, 12:39 PM
Wow, the scratching of those block numbers is crazy. What other purpose could they have other than something nefarious? Hope it's reunited with the original car, that would be fantastic.

I wonder if the VIN could be recovered via the latest "CSI" acid etching technology, like they use on firearms...

K

markinnaples
01-08-2020, 12:47 PM
Keith, the owner could try acid etching of the pad as I tried on my 302. Some have had success (I didn't, unfortunately) recovering numbers. You can buy an entire kit for about $30 online at some CSI outlets. I can post where I got my kit if that helps.

Tracker1
01-08-2020, 01:53 PM
MO

Willing to bet money on it. Top tips of the M are visible, lower half of O is obvious to me.

Tracker1
01-08-2020, 02:00 PM
And I'm gonna go with T0 ? 28 MO for the whole stamp.

SuperNovaSS
01-08-2020, 02:49 PM
You guys are probably right about the pad stamp being mutilated for unpure reasons but who really knows. Its really a shame since the rest of the engine is awesome. It is still standard bore and looks like it will stay that way. The crank is even still STD/STD. It was greased up and stashed away 30 years ago.


Jason

ssl78396
01-08-2020, 03:27 PM
Thanks guys.

Pete,

I don't plan to try to find the car. If I was going to do that, I would not have posted the VIN. I just thought I would check before marketing the block. As far as the suffix code goes, someone mangled it long ago for unknown reasons. That is why I never thought to look for a VIN by the oil filter. The chances of it being a COPO block is slim compared to other applications. When I was taking pictures, I realized it was not a CE block since there was no assembly date on the starter mounting pad. Then I thought it was strange there was no VIN on the pad and looked at the alternate oil filter location. Here is the pad:


Thanks again,

Jason

For those with questionable stamp's Jason's closeup pics show outstanding broaching marks!

Copo_Cartel
01-08-2020, 03:51 PM
I own 680415....I agree with the 8-22 assembly date.

Tracker1
01-08-2020, 05:05 PM
I own 680415....I agree with the 8-22 assembly date.

Top of it looks like an 8 but I can see a horizontal stroke at bottom that could be bottom 2 , I will defer to your superior knowledge of dates of these copo blocks. I pointed out the tips of the M with red arrows.

Copo_Cartel
01-08-2020, 05:12 PM
Good detective work

SuperNovaSS
01-08-2020, 05:41 PM
Thank you all for all the input and detective work. For what its worth, the crank has a pilot bushing in it for a manual trans. It sounds like the car is not known. I will get the engine posted in the classifieds.


Thanks again,

Jason

SuperNovaSS
01-08-2020, 06:46 PM
OK, I got the engine posted up here for anyone interested:

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1478264#post1478264


Thanks,

Jason

Jonesy
01-08-2020, 07:39 PM
Yep, T0828M*. That date makes the most sense for that VIN.