Challenger N96 shaker value

[Motorhead848]

How much does an N96 shaker hood add to the value of the car? Car is a 70 challenger 440/6 pack 4spd with N96 ordered from the factory with it. I don’t see many real documented ones come up for sale. They all seem to of been added on during restoration. Can’t really find good production numbers them either.

Thanks mark.

[Tracker1]

1970 Challengers with actual factory-installed Shakers are extremely rare and coveted. There was a looong period during the model year (oct. '69 to April '70) when the Shaker option was not available on the Challenger making it rarer than 'Cuda models with N96. I'd pay 20% for a Shaker '70 Challenger over a sport hood car, maybe more.

[Lee Stewart]

You can't find what isn't available. Chrysler didn't keep records of their car production as far as options. Engines and transmissions: yes. N96 Shaker hoods: no. There are a number of production numbers floating around the internet but they are for US built cars only. No Canadian built cars. Where the info came from is a big unknown.

[Charley Lillard]

Can I have it ?

[Tracker1]

Just some more SHAKER Challenger history: the N96 option was postponed because Dodge was forced to design crumple zones into the hood. A Challenger has no header panel like a 'Cuda (or a '69 Camaro), and it overhangs the grille on the same plane as the bumper. So in a front-end collision a hood without a crumple zone is going straight back towards the driver and passenger, through the windshield like a guillotine. The other hoods either already had crumples or were easier to figure out a design for. The SHAKER took a little longer.

[Lee Stewart]

Here are "the numbers" I spoke about. Take them with a grain of salt BTW

In 1970 there were the following:

184 Total
164 R/Ts, 15 R/T SEs, and 5 R/T Convertibles
The ONLY engines could be the 383, 440-4, 440-6, or 426 Hemi
There are NO R/Ts with a 340 in 1970


In 1971 there were the following:

224 Total
72 JH non R/T (340 or 383)
11 JH Convertibles (no R/T converts in 1971)
39 R/T Small Block (340)
102 R/T Big Block (383, 440-6, or 426 Hemi)

There are three different Challenger Shaker Hoods

Early 1970 (Before early to mid October, 1969) with NO crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1970 (after April 15th) and 1971 with crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1971 (or more likely over the counter part) with crush zones but NO raised boss for triangle emblem

[Motorhead848]

Thanks guys for the info. I was trying to put together a deal on this car I mentioned but unfortunately the seller was 100% truthful in that he already had a deal going. So I was getting the run around. Same guy who had the LT1. So I was trying to put together a package deal and was hoping to show the N96 in the barn find section this year at MCACN. Guess you can’t win them all right?

[Charley Lillard]

What color was it ?

[prototype]

For some reason I gravitate towards the Challenger over a Cuda

I bought a 71 Convertible that came with a 340 and the original owner added a T/A hood and six pack to the car. I had no idea that the 340 was the highest performance convertible in 71.

Being not that versed in Challengers I wanted to add a shaker hood to match a Citron Yella Hemi Challenger that I have and learned how different the 71 hood was, originals are almost impossible to find. There were fibreglass reproductions available.
The crumple zones as discussed are different on the original hoods.

Without original paperwork or knowledge on the trim tags, documenting an original shaker hood car is tough.

Not sure how much an original shaker adds but it's a desirable option.....10-20% I'd say.

[Motorhead848]

This car was still titled by the guys father who bought it brand new and ordered it. It was a late April car. He didn’t order the hemi due to warranty issues. It was a well optioned car, 440/6, track pack, 4 spd, center console, am/fm stereo, 6 way drivers seat, rear window de fog, vinyl top and side stripe. The car has been parked since the late 80s in his back yard. The interior has never been apart so I’m sure there was a build sheet that supported the trim tag. Was a very complete car that was missing 3 steel wheels and that was about it. The vinyl top got the best of it but the rest of the car was very solid. The original colors were dark metallic green with black top, stripe, and interior. I’m sure it will pop up someday all restored.

[Charley Lillard]

I'm told there are very very few documented 440-6 Shaker hood Challengers. As in count them one one hand. LOL...My friend thought I was talking about converts.

[442w30]

You can't find what isn't available. Chrysler didn't keep records of their car production as far as options. Engines and transmissions: yes. N96 Shaker hoods: no. There are a number of production numbers floating around the internet but they are for US built cars only. No Canadian built cars. Where the info came from is a big unknown.

Production records by option DO exist.

But only for US-spec cars.

Canadian numbers exist but are hoarded by the few who have them. I have US-spec numbers, but it will be for ALL engines, so V-code Shaker numbers won't exist.

[442w30]

https://340shakerrt.wixsite.com/dcshakers#

[Charley Lillard]

That site shows there being a bunch of them but no mention if they are documented or not.

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

Here are "the numbers" I spoke about. Take them with a grain of salt BTW

In 1970 there were the following:

184 Total
164 R/Ts, 15 R/T SEs, and 5 R/T Convertibles
The ONLY engines could be the 383, 440-4, 440-6, or 426 Hemi
There are NO R/Ts with a 340 in 1970


In 1971 there were the following:

224 Total
72 JH non R/T (340 or 383)
11 JH Convertibles (no R/T converts in 1971)
39 R/T Small Block (340)
102 R/T Big Block (383, 440-6, or 426 Hemi)

There are three different Challenger Shaker Hoods

Early 1970 (Before early to mid October, 1969) with NO crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1970 (after April 15th) and 1971 with crush zones w/raised boss for triangle emblem

Late 1971 (or more likely over the counter part) with crush zones but NO raised boss for triangle emblem

I had one of the 15 RT/SE's. Here is a pic of mine and a friends. They are both RT/SE, 440-6, FJ5 paint, N96.
Mine is the one with the white roof and black butt stipe. Mine was a 4:10 stick, my friends - a 3:55 auto. Both were April built.

[ssl78]

My friend now owns the one in the picture still wears its original paint

[RS_COPO_Canuck]

My friend now owns the one in the picture still wears its original paint

The black roof auto?
Is he the one that bought it from the estate of Scott Martin......while it was at Roger Gibsons's shop? I remember it was sold to someone in IL.
Car was sold new in Ontario - Scott bought it from the original owner.
Mine was sold new in MA.

[ssl78]

Yes it is the one that Scott had with the black top we went to Rodger gibsons to pick it up probably 10 years ago

[HuggerSS]

Not a Mopar guy, but I have a friend selling a low millage 1970 matching number 440+6 auto. Vitamin C with a black vinyl top.... no shaker. If anyone is interested, pm me

[mockingbird812]

Bruce Hershberger (restorer), Rex Lynch (OO) and I had fun with this one at a remote desert air strip a few years back. Factory optioned: Panther Pink, 440 six pack, 4 speed, track-pak, Shaker, Louvers .....ravishingly beautiful muscle car!!!!!

[Xplantdad]

I remember that Challenger, Sam!:beers:

[mockingbird812]

By the way, all 5 Of the known ‘70 Panther Pink 440 six-packs were delivered with Shaker hoods according to Galen. :eek2:

[Tracker1]

Bruce Hershberger (restorer), Rex Lynch (OO) and I had fun with this one at a remote desert air strip a few years back. Factory optioned: Panther Pink, 440 six pack, 4 speed, track-pak, Shaker, Louvers .....ravishingly beautiful muscle car!!!!!

Yeah that was a sweet one! Does Mr. Hershberger still own the car in my Avatar pic Sam?

[mockingbird812]

Is that an OO ‘70 Goat?

[442w30]

That site shows there being a bunch of them but no mention if they are documented or not.

That is correct. Perhaps not the best thing for me to post....

[mockingbird812]

Yeah that was a sweet one! Does Mr. Hershberger still own the car in my Avatar pic Sam?

Mr H. says u used to own the “Two Lane BT” goat!!!!😆

[Tracker1]

i PM'd you

[Bruce]

Mr H. says u used to own the “Two Lane BT” goat!!!!😆
Sam
I did use to own the Two-lane Black Top car, actually an Orbit Orange RA IV Judge, It still resides with the fellow I sold it to about 25 miles from me.
Bruce

[mockingbird812]

Well that's just cool Bruce. Any behind-the-scenes movie trivia associated with that car? Surprised they used a RA-IV version. Very neat!

[Bruce]

You might find this post on Performance years interesting
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556252&highlight=TLB

[Xplantdad]

Hey Bruce...what's up? :biggthumpup:

[Bruce]

Bruce
Still playing with old cars and doing my thing