'69 RS/Z, Original Paint, Etc...Nice

[scuncio]

Pretty certain this car was owned by a guy who lived a couple blocks from my parents in Wauwatosa, WI. Looks quite nice to say the least, but I'm surprised it's still original paint with all the obvious (extensive) restoration on the engine bay and underside.

Link to 1969 Original Paint RS/Z auction (https://ebay.to/2SiRo8G)

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[SuperNovaSS]

It looks like they are claiming the paint on the engine is original. Call me a skeptic but I find that very hard to believe.


Jason

[ZLP955]

Especially since the pad has been painted.

[Kurt S]

It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I think it was represented as restored.
Especially since the pad has been painted.
Well, there's a reason for that. That's not the original engine, IMO.

[Sean]

That car is "nice" but way far from the pasture from original. Motor NOM and look at at the detailing someone got carried away like a model car.

[ScottG]

The axle tubes are leaking or have been welded , someone went crazy with the Ultra Black silicone..

[mprice]

I made the assumption that when they said original paint that they meant original color. There is no way on earth that the engine and under carriage is original paint.

[William]

I have seen it a local shows. It's restored, nom.

[RSSSfan]

Are rear end cover bolts supposed to be painted black?

[NorCam]

Not to nitpick, but the description says starter is 9K8 for October, and K is November is it not? That would be late for this car given that it was built the first week of November. The VIN is 363 cars after mine and yet the diff if 4 days earlier than my car. My diff is BU1028G1 and I was always told that the diff should be stamped very close to the car's final build date as it was the last driveline component to be installed?

The D in DZ is also a vastly different font from my pad (narrow D where mine is the wide D). Would the gang stamp not have been loaded the same fonts for an engine built and likely stamped within a few days of each other. Being that they built around 600 cars a day, this car would have perhaps been within a day behind my car if not built the same day (Around November 3rd-4th). Curious how it's known this is NOM in this car other than maybe the stamp font being different? I take it the car's history is known and that it was once passed off as being non original motor? Body sequence # is also 6500 lower than my car which was a 10E build date.

Very nice looking car it is, but fully restored at 41,000 miles so it would appear.

[William]

Are rear end cover bolts supposed to be painted black?

Yes; rear axle was painted after assembly, including brake drums.

[R68GTO]

William, did you mean to say backing plates instead of drums? Drums would be natural cast not?

[William]

Nope; drums and backing plates were painted. This is from a March '68 issue of HP Cars magazine. I have two other vintage pics of the same thing.

[NorCam]

My drums were black as well.

https://i.ibb.co/dD0z3Hy/IMG-6947.jpg.

[R68GTO]

Nope; drums and backing plates were painted. This is from a March '68 issue of HP Cars magazine. I have two other vintage pics of the same thing.

Ah man... just when I think I know something, BOOM! Try again:youguysrock:

Now this prompts me to have other questions....if the axle wasn't painted until completely assembled with drums, would the axle studs then be painted black as well? How about the parts of the drum brakes that poke through the backing plate? Wheel cylinder, backing plate mounting bolts, & spring pins all would be black?

[William]

Guessing here, I believe the threaded portion was masked. I see paint on the ends of the studs in both photos. On very low mile survivors there is some black paint at the ends of the pb cables.

Not the best pic but still vintage '68.

[Keith Seymore]

Guessing here, I believe the threaded portion was masked. I see paint on the ends of the studs in both photos. On very low mile survivors there is some black paint at the ends of the pb cables.

Not the best pic but still vintage '68.

No - no masking was done.

"Paint" was sort of drizzled in the general direction of the chassis as it went by.

Photo from the Lansing Oldsmobile plant attached.

You may already be familiar with this but this is the best write up of the assembly process (for any product) that I have seen:

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

K

[William]

Camaro axles were completely painted at the axle plant after assembly. The pinion yoke was masked with a cardboard tube.

Firebird axles were built by Pontiac and were not painted. They got a light dusting of black paint on the bottom after vehicle final assembly.

Different brands, different processes.

[Keith Seymore]

Thank you, William. I was not aware of the cardboard tube.

My expertise is more related to Pontiac Michigan builds and GM light trucks of the era.

K

[William]

Most of what we know about 1st Gen Camaro assembly comes from John Z.

[scuncio]

This Z has been relisted in the link below. Could be a nice deal for someone if the seller has some room in the price.

As a kid I remember riding my bike past the open garage where this car was stored...which cemented the '69 RS in my mind as one of the cars to have....

Link go 1969 RS/Z auction (https://ebay.to/2xwbENO)

[Jonesy]

I have seen it a local shows. It's restored, nom.

Listing has ended.

It was at asking of $75,000, that's kind of aggressive with NOM.

[69LM1]

Love that color.....

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