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scuncio
02-17-2020, 05:02 AM
Neat car - no mention of docs or whether any of the drivetrain or options are original (but this color combo sure looks sharp with the body color front bumper).

Sounds like the owner passed away, and the widow is selling it on his behalf. For this kind of $$ I'd expect a more thorough debrief on what's original, with more detail pics.

Link to 1969 RS/Z auction (https://ebay.to/39QOK1t)

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wOgAAOSwKpNeRxBa/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1U0AAOSwz4leRxBf/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ri0AAOSwG5teRxDq/s-l1600.jpg

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ZLP955
02-17-2020, 09:40 AM
Shouldn't have had fender pinstripes applied as well as the Z stripes during the restoration, but they do really suit it IMHO!

William
02-17-2020, 11:38 AM
Another issue is the stripe color. Garnet Red would have been built with black stripes unless it originally had a parchment vinyl top. Back then it was acceptable to change colors, add options during a restoration so no telling what was done here.

Some very early production Z/28s may have had the D96 fender striping. Chevrolet continually revised optional equipment for the '69 model year. An update to the Showroom Album dated September 12, 1968 states:

"FENDER STRIPING (RPO D96, Body-side accent stripe) included with Rally-Sport and Style Trim Group. Not available with Sport Striping (SS or RPO D90). Available in combination with Front Accent Striping (RPO DX1) or with RPO Z28."

Guessing here, I'd say Z21 & Z22 Z/28s included D96 striping for a short period of time. Per the Showroom Album revision, D96 was no longer included but became optional as of late September '68. As an option D96 is rare, 5,176 cars. At some point, possibly the January '69 revision, the one stripe per car restriction was put in place. This car was built late March and would not have had D96.

Flashy car that needs corrections and updates. At that asking price, needs to have original drive train.

It's only about 2 hours from me. Surprised I have never seen it.

X66 714
02-17-2020, 11:56 AM
This would be a March 1969 LA built car. You would need to judge it from there. I see several thing wrong...Joe

NorCam
02-17-2020, 06:27 PM
Nice looking car but Mid April block in an 03C car? Seller description states no VIN on the engine, the trans has a VIN from another car, and the 12 bolt is dated November? Doesn't sound like anything is original in the driveline.

Gonna be a tough sell at that price but I do like the options and that fold down deluxe interior.

William
02-17-2020, 10:35 PM
Without VIN-stamped driveline components, no proof it really was a Z/28.

Jonesy
09-18-2022, 04:48 PM
Now on BaT

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-camaro-1119/

Interesting.... Looks like the original cowl tag was changed out since I last saw this car.

Old Tag, which Im sure was original, had different Interior code (718) Standard Red, Body number, week of production and LA Scheduling code.

At that time it had non matching drivetrain. (engine, trans, rear)

Jonesy
09-18-2022, 05:05 PM
Heres all you need to know :)

Original Tag:

Jonesy
09-18-2022, 05:06 PM
Replacement/Reproduction Cowl Tag now on car

Jonesy
09-18-2022, 05:08 PM
So when it was listed on ebay it had the original tag, but had the houndstooth interior and someone who bought it must have changed out the tag to match the interior :eek:

It also saysThe car was acquired by the seller in 2022. This Z/28 is offered with a window sticker copy, a dealer invoice copy,

Both are made up. Not that the seller is claiming either way. So now it also appears there may be places making up fake original invoices :bs:

scuncio
09-18-2022, 05:26 PM
Why on earth would someone change the date and sequence number on the trim tag?

Steve Shauger
09-18-2022, 10:19 PM
Those D96 pinstripes on a Z28 looks hideous, and I don't like them on pace cars athough the are part of the z11 package I just hope these fraudsters are held consequences for their actions.

ALLZS
09-18-2022, 11:52 PM
my early z had the d96 pin stripes but I just could not bring myself to put them back on the car

70LS6454
09-19-2022, 12:05 AM
It’s a nice car. Whether it’s original and correct is one thing. What I mean is an interior change isn’t the end of the world. Why change the tag to match

TMagda
09-19-2022, 09:18 PM
Why would anyone swap in a tag that added pretty much nothing?

Lynn
09-19-2022, 09:46 PM
Those D96 pinstripes on a Z28 looks hideous, and I don't like them on pace cars athough the are part of the z11 package I just hope these fraudsters are held consequences for their actions.

Really? I really like them on an X77 car; just not on an X33 car.

I seriously considered adding them on my 10 10 Z, but couldn't do it. Mine's a late car.

southernfriedcj
09-19-2022, 11:51 PM
The seller states that someone came by to look at the car and has the real trim tag. The guy with the real TT won't let it go so the seller ordered another fake tag to replace the current fake tag.

Pusher_Man
09-20-2022, 08:04 PM
The seller states that someone came by to look at the car and has the real trim tag. The guy with the real TT won't let it go so the seller ordered another fake tag to replace the current fake tag.

Wow

southernfriedcj
09-21-2022, 12:31 PM
From the seller:

"Here is a picture of the original trim tag that belongs on this car. A gentleman brought it to me earlier when he came to check out the car. The trim tag that’s on the car now is the wrong tag. My guess is the previous owner was trying to make the current interior match the car in place of the red interior that originally came in the car. I’ve tried to get the original trim tag back from the previous owner, but no luck. I just got done ordering a duplicate trim tag and it should be here next Tuesday. At least the new trim tag will have the correct information."

Is this car an actual Z/28?

TMagda
09-21-2022, 02:27 PM
So 3 trim tags in total, none that prove anything that would add value to this car. Kind of nuts.

Jonesy
09-21-2022, 07:42 PM
Currently at $62,000 for a swapped trim tag, no original drivetrain left, fake docs car.

Jerry's letter really means nothing here. He never saw it in person. It appears by pictures he sent to Jerry that its an original 1969 Z28? I wonder if that letter is fake also?
Lots of back pedalling here :D

Danzo
09-21-2022, 10:18 PM
Like the old adage says: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit"

TMagda
09-22-2022, 12:04 AM
It's not the current owner though. He is posting everything he finds out.

tom406
09-23-2022, 09:05 PM
$72,500 plus BaT’s 5%��