1970 Chevelle LS6 convertible - 10K miles - Mecum

[StealthBird]

Stunning, with only 10,222 original miles. I still have photos of this Chevelle back in the mid-1980's at a local car show when it had a scant 9,000 original miles! Incredible that it's only racked up a thousand miles in the past 35 years.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/AZ0320-405232/1970-chevrolet-chevelle-ls6-convertible/

[flyingn]

the rusty under hood parts would drive me crazy

[x33rs]

And it's here for sale in Arizona!! :)

I'd love to have it.

[travlnz28]

One of the few times in my life I wished I was wealthy. It would be in my garage for the rest of my life.

[carnut4life]

I spent many a day dreaming about this car back in 1988 when it showed up in Super Chevy. I'm not a big convertible fan now so I'd rather have Fuller's red LS6 hardtop these days. Anyone know the red cars whereabouts?

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

In my book. If it ain’t a 4 Speed.... well, just don’t wanna own any muscle with two pedals;)

[300deluxe]

Nice car, but in this market I would be buying silver

[the427king]

Cant believe silver is actually down right now. Makes no sense

[300deluxe]

Cant believe silver is actually down right now. Makes no sense
When the "market riggers" lose control of the price of silver, we could see silver go past $100 per ounce

[BLACKLS5]

What on earth happened to the master cylinder? It looks like it was just pulled out of Lake Erie. I also remember seeing this car at Super Chevy Sunday at Indy many years ago.

[EZ Nova]

Sorry, unless is was able to buy on the cheap, which is highly doubtful, I wouldn't care for it.
Like others said, "it's not a 4 sp", plain-jane no stripes, and being a low mile car, one probably wouldn't want to drive it much either. That's 3 strikes in my book, SORRY but that's just my thoughts.

For the price that this would go for, I would rather have something else for that. SURE a LS6 rag top is cool and all, but this one is on the boring side.

[COPO140]

Very cool car! I have known about this car most of my life as it was sold new in my hometown and the original owner was a family friend. Good to see it:).

[Z15 SS 454]

I would never kick an original LS6 automatic with 4:10 rear gear out of bed!!

Gotta hit the lotto or have a hot hand on tha dice game for this one though!!

[muscle_collector]

what are your predictions for what it will bring?

[NorCam]

I'd say about $185K

[the427king]

Cmon, 185k? a real black 69 small block z28 with 10k miles would do more than that.

[JRSully]

Is that 450 h/p designation on the rear bumper pad factory?

[JoeC]

Is that 450 h/p designation on the rear bumper pad factory?

there was a discussion on the 450 H/P print in the bumper pad on team chevelle many years ago and was said that the owner had added it

[EZ Nova]

Cmon, 185k? a real black 69 small block z28 with 10k miles would do more than that.

I HONESTLY don't think it will go much more than that! I was wrong on the Bullitt Mustang too, so I'm good with being wrong. I'm not set to spend that type of $$$ on a car yet. Especially with the CND exchange rate at the moment.

This is the one of the reasons I joined THIS site. To keep up with the market on high end real cars. I have been surprised both high and lower on cars pricing. TO ME, I wouldn't pay the $185,000 I lost more than that last week in the markets. That's fine if others think it's worth more. It only take 2 to drive the price up, I just know I wouldn't be one of that 2.

[Postsedan]

I say she brings $450K just like her HP.

Dan

[Vortecpro]

I HONESTLY don't think it will go much more than that! I was wrong on the Bullitt Mustang too, so I'm good with being wrong. I'm not set to spend that type of $$$ on a car yet. Especially with the CND exchange rate at the moment.

This is the one of the reasons I joined THIS site. To keep up with the market on high end real cars. I have been surprised both high and lower on cars pricing. TO ME, I wouldn't pay the $185,000 I lost more than that last week in the markets. That's fine if others think it's worth more. It only take 2 to drive the price up, I just know I wouldn't be one of that 2.

John, I've seen one go for more than that and it wasn't a convertible, no stripes either. Theres a group of people out there who pay what it takes to get special cars.

I just bought another one of those green 4800 pound 1969 427 Caprices. LOL

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

I have always said and still believe that many people.... especially in this age of internet and bulletin boards and forums.... lots of people are quick to give opinions on values. Not just on rare cars but even high production Musclecars.

What many seem to forget is to not base your predictions or estimates of value on your own personal financial circumstances. It’s easy to do. Human Nature. The old .... NO WAY ID PAY XYZ FOR THAT scenario. Key word being “I”

Many people on forums spout out numbers and values based on little to no REAL Knowledge and often it’s based on their personal income. The guy making only $100K a year can’t ever see paying 3 x his salary for any car. Same goes for the guy making $62K a year. It’s perspective. Of course some predictions come via having watched a handful or fewer cars sell at auction or privately but again without really seeing them in person or knowing what others know ( in the KNOW ).

That all said., I’m not saying any person here or who has an opinion on this cars value doesn’t know the market or doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Just making an observation on questions of What do you think it will sell for? Generally get answered.

Leave the I Out of it and think about what might someone who has the resources might pay and what comparable cars might assist in your valuation.

Or just GUESS :) LOL

OFF MY BOX

[Mr70]

Bob Fuller LS6 @ SC Indy in 1986.
Only 222 miles put on it in 34 years.

[Lee Stewart]

My guess is between $225K and $250K. Low mileage with a known history.

[Mr70]

My guess is bid to 375K,with reserve not met. ;)

[firstgenaddict]

Cmon, 185k? a real black 69 small block z28 with 10k miles would do more than that.

Yes it would, there have been multiple offers of more than that for the old black 69 RS Z I played with 10-15 years ago.

IMHO the auto and the lack of D88 hurts the car, just like it hurt the Black LS6 DAVE BEEM had with 4,300 miles. Black on black sans ZL2 and Stripes will depress the value no matter the miles.
There is a 1000 mile black 69 RS/Z without stripes, cowl induction or endura... PRICED the same I would take the 45k mile non matching numbers car I was the care taker of VS the 1000 mile car because of the aesthetic appeal of stripes cowl induction and VE3.

[Lee Stewart]

This is not the only LS6 convertible to be at Mecum:

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=159681

[NorCam]

Cmon, 185k? a real black 69 small block z28 with 10k miles would do more than that.

A real low mile black 69 Z RS Z/28 M22 410 Posi car with options might break 185K, but it's also a bit of a Unicorn in itself and doesn't need an auction to get it sold. That and it's got Stripes and a STICK!

I could be light and while no expert on Vert's or Chevelle's I have seen enough anomalies to throw out my guess and I'll stick by it. On a stretch I would have said 200K but that's it. Auto to me really holds it back. But what do I know?

[EZ Nova]

John, I've seen one go for more than that and it wasn't a convertible, no stripes either. Theres a group of people out there who pay what it takes to get special cars.

I just bought another one of those green 4800 pound 1969 427 Caprices. LOL

HEY Bud, long time no talk, HOW ARE THINGS GOING, STILL SWAMPED!!!!!

I know people PAY for what they like/want. A buddy of mine dropped LARGE for a '68 Hemi RR. WAY more than I thought it was worth. BEAUTIFUL car with an over-the-top rest. BUT B5 blue on blue with column auto to me, isn't worth what I would pay. He likes it, it's his money and I have no problem with that.

I do think this market is shrinking. Some may agree or some may disagree. It's a free country. YES Unicorn's like the Bullitt car and some others like a '71 convert Hemi E body will always comand big big $$$.

Now this Chevelle @ $185,000?? I wouldn't pay that myself as I would rather have something else for that much $$$. That's just my thoughts and opinion. This Chevelle doesn't appeal to me personally. That's fine, and just my thoughts. I would want to drive it, and that would drastically effect it's future value. Just not my cup of tea.

John

P.S. 427 Caprice UMMM. Must be lightened to only be 4800 with a 427!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
All the best bud. Keep up the great work.

[EZ Nova]

This is not the only LS6 convertible to be at Mecum:

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=159681

Now that one is much more appealing to me then the first one. Strips and stick help, need to find out what the OEM gear ratio was as this car would be signing at 60MPH on the highway.............

[mockingbird812]

My guess is bid to 375K,with reserve not met. ;)

That there is pretty funny!!!! ;>))

[RPOLS3]

Fuller car was bid to $330k and a no sale last summer (8/19)


https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=155525&page=3


While the auto may not be as desirable for some - it's still an LS6 convertible.....

[Vortecpro]

Yes it would, there have been multiple offers of more than that for the old black 69 RS Z I played with 10-15 years ago.

IMHO the auto and the lack of D88 hurts the car, just like it hurt the Black LS6 DAVE BEEM had with 4,300 miles. Black on black sans ZL2 and Stripes will depress the value no matter the miles.
There is a 1000 mile black 69 RS/Z without stripes, cowl induction or endura... PRICED the same I would take the 45k mile non matching numbers car I was the care taker of VS the 1000 mile car because of the aesthetic appeal of stripes cowl induction and VE3.


Dave's 4300 mile black LS6 didn't have stripes, did have a M22. So how much did it actually hurt the selling price?

[duskblue]

I had a 1970 LS6 with a turbo 400 and 4.10 rear end, When you smashed the pedal all hell broke loose . That car was a beast and a blast to drive. 4 speed might be more desirable but the automatic cars get it done.

[x33rs]

Agree. Auto or stick doesn't matter to me as far as enjoyment. I like and own both.

It does seem to affect value to some people, but it's still an LS6 convertible. I wouldn't kick it out of the garage.

[firstgenaddict]

Lack of stripes, bench seat cloth, and no ZL2 probably cost Daves car 125-150k.


FWIW The current care take of the Black RS/Z is in Canada and told me he turned down multiple US 200k offers from 2 different US collectors.

[x33rs]

Lack of stripes, bench seat cloth, and no ZL2 probably cost Daves car 125-150k.




Sounds like my kinda car. Less flash, all go.

[Charley Lillard]

Dave got close to record money even with no stripes and bench seats.

[the427king]

Lets face it, the market is all in for z28s with rs and colors....real trim tag is optional

[rszmjt]

I saw in another post the Fuller LS6 is not original paint? Is that true? Does anyone know for sure?

[x33rs]

Lets face it, the market is all in for z28s with rs and colors....real trim tag is optional

:D

[GrumpyJeff]

I had a 1970 LS6 with a turbo 400 and 4.10 rear end, When you smashed the pedal all hell broke loose . That car was a beast and a blast to drive. 4 speed might be more desirable but the automatic cars get it done.

I agree 110% If there is a automatic Muscle Car to own its the LS6 !!! Back in our street racing days (Late 70's early 80's) this was proved as fact as we roamed from town to town. Plus with the buckets and console there is No better looking auto setup .

[Charley Lillard]

As I recall in 70 is when they changed the turbo 400 to where you hammer it in low and it automatically shifts into second but at a higher rpm and hits hard.......Lots-O-fun.

[L_e_e]

or 1st to 2nd and back to 1st really fast does it as well.

[Rumbleguts396]

To each their own. Personally for me, every muscle car I've owned has been a 4 speed. My Dad and uncle's who all bought and raced these cars when they were brand new. All were 4 speeds. Nothing better than having that control/feel when going through those gears. ROB

[Mr70]

Slapstick upshift too. :burnout:

[GrumpyJeff]

As I recall in 70 is when they changed the turbo 400 to where you hammer it in low and it automatically shifts into second but at a higher rpm and hits hard.......Lots-O-fun.

Exactly !!! and on the street where the traction was iffy at best it could be unbeatable , And I'm a hard core 4spd guy,All my car's are stick except my 70 Chevelle

[NorCam]

In stock trim and tires, they certainly do good burnouts. (lol)

12.44 stock trim. Is that an average for these cars?

https://youtu.be/WKY-qJMXVl8

[GrumpyJeff]

In stock trim and tires, they certainly do good burnouts. (lol)

12.44 stock trim. Is that an average for these cars?

https://youtu.be/WKY-qJMXVl8

A Crisp Tune , Slicks , Headers, 4:10’s & a Vega torque converter would dip into the 11’s not to bad for a couple stoner kids in 1979/80 driven to the track

[Charley Lillard]

This LS6 convert was the first one I had ever heard of. In my opinion it is probably one of the best. I think I recall touch up paint work but history, options, paperwork etc set this one apart. But I would also rather have a Hardtop.

[Postsedan]

SOLD $300K

Dan

[Vortecpro]

Dave got close to record money even with no stripes and bench seats.


Your damm right he did...................

[Charley Lillard]

Great car even brought good money in this perfect storm of a bad time to be selling a car.

[EZ Nova]

Well glad to say I was wrong/low. Car was down from it's fall bid but still pretty strong money.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

I missed the actual coverage IF that is., it was on or maybe at commercial LOL Does anyone know of YouTube link for the car going over block?

[Mr70]

At the 5:32:35 mark Mike.

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[Fuller12]

I am Bob Fullers grandson. Does anyone know who own this car now? What collection it is in? Thank you.

[PeteLeathersac]

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[realzed]

I visited a guys farm in Central Ontario 15 or so years back - who had 4 barns full (and I do mean FULL of very collectable cars) packed in so tight you couldn't get in between lots of them! Saw a lot of R code aluminum front end Ford stuff and lots of big Wedge and Hemi cars as well!
In the back of one barn he had a black LS6 '70 Chevelle SS convertible - perfect white top and interior - with cowl hood and flapper/white stripes, 21000 original miles sitting on 4 flat original lettered tires. I was told it had an M22 trans and 4:10 rear.
It was very dusty from sitting in there but looked perfect body-wise and I was told after some marital issues he sold most all of the cars and I always wondered what happened to that Chevelle.
I always regretted not noting the VIN - would be interesting to know where it finally landed and for how much!

[Lynn]

Nice car, but in this market I would be buying silver

I see these quotes all the time. I don't have a crystal ball. Depending upon your time horizon, you may be right. Maybe I should invest in silver. I don't know the future. But I do know history.

People started pushing gold and silver in the 80s.

Let's say I invested $477 in gold in Dec. 1982 (just happens to be the spot price that month). I held it all these years, and now it is worth a tick under $1900 (current spot).

Silver is virtually the same (different numbers, same ratio). Worth about 4 times as in 1982.

Had I invested $477 into a dow index fund, with all the dividends reinvested over the years, I would have approximately 960 times my initial investment, or over $45,000.

The market is hard to stomach sometimes. Sucks when it is down. But it is up about 70% of the time.

[olredalert]

----There you go, Lynn. I know I could make more with more money in the market, but Jan and I have what we need and I get to sit here in the cave and look at what I built on a cold winter day (not today as it's in the 50's) but I think you know what I mean....Bill S